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Now that the dust has settled the team actually looks pretty decent. Much better all round than at the start of last season. Better center backs, better left back (or at least better going forward) and Szczesny looks the part in goal. No telling if Gervinho will turn out to be better than Nasri, but he's looked pretty good from what I've seen of him so far, probably more suited to playing on the left in a 4-3-3 than Nasri was. Ramsey is fit and even though Arteta is no Cesc, the option of having either him or Benayoun is great. Plus we now have someone who can score free kicks! Hopefully he can also take corners so Van Persie can get on the end of them.

Feel very positive about the season now and hopefully we have the money to bring any necessary reinforcements in December if needed. Top 4 seems very much back on. It has to be said that the 2 Manchester clubs look in a different league, but I haven't been super impressed with Liverpool or Chelsea so far this season and Tottenham seem to be going in the wrong direction.

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This thread is for Arsenal fans to talk to each other. See dogsout and SMD as examples of supporters of other teams who can manage to take part in a decent discussion objectively without winding up the people who this thread was made by, and for.

Cheque's in the post, mate.

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JDubYes

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You're probably right that Benayoun will more likely be used to cover one of the wide forward positions. I do think he could also fill in the No10 spot if our shape is more like a 4-2-3-1 though. With two more solid players behind him, two from Song, Frimpong, Wilshere, Ramsey or even Rosicky when he can be arsed, I think that could work too.

Yeah, I didn't think about the 4-2-3-1 aspect until after I posted. In that case I'd say that you're looking at, as you say, Song, Frimpong, Wilshere, Ramsey and Diaby as the midfielders, and then any one of the others (or indeed Wilshere or Ramsey) playing further forward in whatever combination Wenger sees fit.

There's nothing I'd love more at this point than for Arshavin to regain some semblance of the form he showed in his first 6-12 months with us. That'd be such a huge boon for us just now, and it almost feels like it's a possibility, but that there's something missing from his game at the moment (besides, at times, effort/motivation, obviously). I wonder if he's just lacking confidence at times too.

Another thing - Arteta is genuinely ambipedal (as is Oxlade-Chamberlain), right?

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toythatkills

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This got posted on GAF, about Park.

He started his career at Monaco with 5 goals and 6 assists in 31 appearances in the 2008-2009 season, with a 40% shot accuracy. The next season he improved his goal-to-match ratio, scoring 8 goals in 26 appearances, but only managing 3 assists in total. In 2010-2011 he upped his goal tally once again, getting 12 goals from a massive 87 attempts at goal (36.7% accuracy) in 32 appearances – but unfortunately he didn’t manage a single assist in the season Monaco was relegated from Ligue 1.

Sounds like an Arsenal striker to me :lol:

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To me that suggests that he'd rather look for the shot himself instead of passing it around the oppositions penalty area, the latter being the typical Arsenal way - and that isn't necessarily a bad thing, although obviously a balance/making the right decision as to whether to shoot/pass would be nice.

You can't assume too much from stats though.

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anders limpar

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Arsenal guys, do any of you constantly go into the United, Liverpool etc. threads and behave like utter dicks or are we the only team that has to put up with it?

I have to confess that when Liverpool were getting knocked out the cup by Reading I did post "You must defeat Shane Long to stand a chance"

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toythatkills

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It'll be interesting to see whether Park Chu Young is going to be sitting on the bench as a substitute for Van Persie, or if Wenger will see his move as an opportunity to switch to a dynamic 4-4-2.

I was thinking about formations earlier, and wondered if something like this had ever been tried/had any chance of success. Back four is the back four, then with Song at DM. Wilshere and Arteta in CM, with Van Persie playing behind a striker where he has obviously needed to be forever. Walcott (lol) or Park, I guess. So, 4-3-1-1. Then Gervinho would play as a winger of sorts on both sides, just switching between the two at random so that the opposition defence doesn't really know where he's gonna be. Teams seem to like swapping their wingers, but as a full back you'd know to expect a winger. This way you wouldn't really know where the attack was coming from. Or something.

When the opponent has the ball, it'd kind of form back into a more traditional 4-4-2 with Wilshere/Arteta covering whatever flank Gervinho isn't on right then.

I might just be being mental.

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In all this boring buying and selling there has been no looking forward to international matches! Where is the usual excitement?!?! Are we all psyched to get to see our players performing for their countries?!?!

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In all this boring buying and selling there has been no looking forward to international matches! Where is the usual excitement?!?! Are we all psyched to get to see our players performing for their countries?!?!

Yeah, it was great to see Lansbury do so well last night, even though we've fucked that up a bit!

I don't understand sending a player on loan for a year when at the end of that year his contract will have expired and so he can leave for nothing. Why not sell him, or make it clear you want to keep him with a new contract? I can't work out what's happening.

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Someone on Twitter (I forget who) made a good point regarding Bendtner this morning. If after his recent performances Chamakh is still ahead of you in the pecking order you need to have a long hard look at yourself and think hard about your attitude.

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Someone on Twitter (I forget who) made a good point regarding Bendtner this morning. If after his recent performances Chamakh is still ahead of you in the pecking order you need to have a long hard look at yourself and think hard about your attitude.

This has been my opinion for about a year, how little does Wenger think of him to have Chamakh ahead in the pecking order?

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His attitude is fine. What's the point of telling a striker "you're not as good as you think you are, STOP HAVING CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITY."

You want your strikers to be cocky.

I don't mean confidence. I mean attitude with relation to working hard and fighting for your place. Confidence and cockiness is essential for a forward. It's when you start believing you don't need to work hard that things go wrong.

Henry was the cockiest, most arrogant fucker to wear the red and white. But he gave it all.

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This has been my opinion for about a year, how little does Wenger think of him to have Chamakh ahead in the pecking order?

Clearly very little, or he wouldn't be at Sunderland now and we wouldn't have replaced him with a £1.8m striker from the French league that's probably going to get killed in a border dispute in two seasons.

Henry was the cockiest, most arrogant fucker to wear the red and white. But he gave it all.

Except when he was in a sulk. Which was quite often.

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JDubYes

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Bendtner (who I actually quite like, by the way) isn't just cocky though, is he? The man's flat out delusional. He thinks he's Messi's peer when he's actually lower in the pecking order at his parent club than a man who may currently be the least in-form striker in England (ending Emile Heskey's streak of... well, however long it is since that one year he was quite good for Liverpool.)

If he was just cocky he might be great, or at least better. As it is I wonder if he needs medication, or therapy. It's a common complaint that footballer's are pamperred and have their abilities talked up to them all the time, but I can't remember a player who believes it all so absolutely, and without paying any heed to any of the negative feedback he gets. Even about his boots. It's like he's completely disconnected from reality on an entirely new level.

I actually genuinely think that might part of why so many like (or hate) him - he's taken one of our least favourite qualities in modern footballers to such an extreme it's actually funny and/or quite endearing. Sometimes. When he's not actuually playing in games that matter.

He's like Eboue, really - he's a cult hero you can't help but root for, but can't really trust either. I hope they both do well elsewhere, but I've never trusted them to deliver when we needed them to. Often quite the opposite, in fact.

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Yeah, it was great to see Lansbury do so well last night, even though we've fucked that up a bit!

I don't understand sending a player on loan for a year when at the end of that year his contract will have expired and so he can leave for nothing. Why not sell him, or make it clear you want to keep him with a new contract? I can't work out what's happening.

I honestly can't see Lansbury amounting to much for you guys. His class obviously shone through when he was on loan at Watford (and we gave him a good reception last night) but I worry he may turn out like another Bentley. Fingers crossed though.

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