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Santos was a must with only Gibbs as a LB. Strange that was only done today really.

Mertesacker was another must with Koscielny and Squillaci looking far from convincing. Djourou has also looked ropey but could it could be more down to being paired with the other two with TV injured.

Park is a good option and theoretically takes some weight off RVPs shoulders.

You've had a decent day but it is strange you haven't strengthened in the middle. Song-Ramsey-Wilshere is a worthy first choice and Frimpong has looked excellent but you're definitely thin there.

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The Fox

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You sound like a fucking Man City fan. ONLY THE BEST MOST EXPENSIVE PLAYER WILL DO. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EFFECT ON THE TEAM, I JUST NEED A BIG NAME FUCKING SIGNING.

Christ.

Haha, are you for real? I am literally talking about the effect on the team, and nothing else. You think Cesc and Nasri out and Benayoun in will have a positive effect on the team? And that getting Benayoun on loan is more likely to benefit the team than spending some of our massive fuck off pile of gold on the likes of M'Vila, Vargas, Hazard, Götze, Hamsik or Martin?

Oookay!

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I reckon City owe us a favour.

Never ever going to happen though. Johnson is vital in our squad. I find it odd he's even been linked with moves. Our squad is far smaller than people want to believe and Mancini said recently (before signing Nasri) that he's our only proper winger and was going nowhere. Yeah, poor SWP.

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This sums up how I feel at the moment:

"The real buzz amongst Arsenal fans this morning that we might see a signing along the lines of M'Villa, Vargas, Hazard or Martin. Now to hear that "all efforts" are being put into capturing Benayoun on loan really is a smack in the teeth. I expect Man City et al are quaking in their boots."

Why has this happened? We knew Cesc was going and by July knew Nasri was probably going too, and yet it seems there was no plan in place whatsoever to replace them, to the point where they're being replaced with two hours to go on deadline day with Yossi Benayoun on loan.

How on earth can anyone think that's acceptable? And where the hell has all the money gone?

I'm just praying something exciting happens out of nowhere in the next couple of hours, but at this point I'm really down in the dumps.

I'm still hoping we are going to sign a M'Villa, Vargas, Hazard or Martin.

Mertesacker could be decent if he stays fit, but I'm hoping the Benayoun rumour is just a sick fucking joke.

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toythatkills

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Haha, are you for real? I am literally talking about the effect on the team, and nothing else. You think Cesc and Nasri out and Benayoun in will have a positive effect on the team?

Benayoun and Gervinho, sure. Cesc is irreplaceable, but it means that instead of building a team around one player we can build a proper team instead. So that when one player isn't there, the team can function. Just look at the record without Cesc, it was shit. That's because the team didn't know how to play without him. There was too much reliance on him. If they can learn to play without him, they'll be a much better team.

What you want to do, is just buy a new Cesc and repeat the same cycle forever. Fuck that.

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What you want to do, is just buy a new Cesc and repeat the same cycle forever. Fuck that.

No, just buy a really good midfielder and play him alongside what we've got. Whichever way you slice it we're two men down in midfield and that is a joke. Benayoun I feel sorry for cos the fans will most likely hate him from the start! Says it all that Chelsea are even willing to let him to come to us. Remember Silvestre? United pissed themselves when we took him from them. There's a reason for this, these types of players are squad players, rejects and aren't good enough. Benayoun is literally just another body in midfield.

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Benayoun and Gervinho, sure. Cesc is irreplaceable, but it means that instead of building a team around one player we can build a proper team instead. So that when one player isn't there, the team can function. Just look at the record without Cesc, it was shit. That's because the team didn't know how to play without him. There was too much reliance on him. If they can learn to play without him, they'll be a much better team.

What you want to do, is just buy a new Cesc and repeat the same cycle forever. Fuck that.

So let's buy a poor replacement so we won't miss him when he's injured?

Bendtner's gone to Sunderland on loan, we've got Benayoun. Shambolic.

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The Fox

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Benayoun and Gervinho, sure. Cesc is irreplaceable, but it means that instead of building a team around one player we can build a proper team instead. So that when one player isn't there, the team can function. Just look at the record without Cesc, it was shit. That's because the team didn't know how to play without him. There was too much reliance on him. If they can learn to play without him, they'll be a much better team.

What you want to do, is just buy a new Cesc and repeat the same cycle forever. Fuck that.

Nah I don't want a direct replacement for Cesc, and I'm all for changing the dynamic of the side. I haven't suggested a direct replacement for Cesc really, though we do need an injection of creativity.

I'm bemoaning the apparent lack of any coherent transfer strategy or plan this summer. Consequently we're left scrabbling around at the last minute and it looks likely we're going to end up weaker in midfield than last year overall.

The club is a whole lot richer though! Fucking yay! You're right, wanting to spend some fucking money must make me a Man City supporter. That makes so much sense.

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The club is a whole lot richer though! Fucking yay! You're right, wanting to spend some fucking money must make me a Man City supporter. That makes so much sense.

It just makes you sound like one. "We've got a problem? Throw some money at it."

Obviously Benayoun isn't an ideal signing alone, but he can absolutely do a job for Arsenal. How good a player is for the team does not depend on their price in the transfer market.

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It just makes you sound like one. "We've got a problem? Throw some money at it."

Obviously Benayoun isn't an ideal signing alone, but he can absolutely do a job for Arsenal. How good a player is for the team does not depend on their price in the transfer market.

He'll be decent to bring off the bench in the 80th minute. He's not a replacement for Cesc or Nasri.

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The Fox

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Why on earth would we want a 31 year old who can't get anywhere near the Chelsea first team? WHY?

I can't believe it will happen actually, it can't.

Wasn't he out for most of 2010/11 with a cruciate injury too? Just to make it even more absurd.

I've got nothing against Benayoun, he's a decent player. But we're short in midfield, having lost possibly our most talented midfielder ever, and he is not the answer to the lack if quality in that area. He's also not going to cheer anyone up either, which is needed at the moment. I've been one of the more positive guys in this thread in recent weeks and I'm incredibly disillusioned right now. How are the more emo Gooners going to be feeling right about now?

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So assuming we sign Benayoun on loan and that's it, what's the transfer profit in this transfer window? has to be £20m+.

Combined with the £40m+ war chest, that makes £60m+ that's not been spent this summer. I think that's why people, despite some of the defensive signings obviously being pretty good, are upset.

I mean why did we buy Chamberlain for £12m when we could have paid Lille the the £30m+ they wanted for Hazard? Why

won't we pay Everton what they want for some of their players like Arteta and Fellaini? Who cares if we are

inflating the market by paying over the odds for players? We've been inflating it by selling players to Man City

for the past 3 years! We are one of the top ten richest football clubs ont the planet!

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He'll be like a new Marouane Chamakh. He doesn't fit into the way Wenger plays.

The "Wenger system" is proven not to work. His 4-5-1/4-3-3 hybrid set-up doesn't work. We get walked over by any team who has a manager that's worked out how to play us.

I'd trade the easy on the eye stuff for a more direct approach. Pretty football does not win competitions - goals do and we don't score enough of them to win enough matches. I'd love to see two up front again, or one playing off the main striker. Gyan is a beast & he'd do a cracking job for us.

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The Fox

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It just makes you sound like one. "We've got a problem? Throw some money at it."

Obviously Benayoun isn't an ideal signing alone, but he can absolutely do a job for Arsenal. How good a player is for the team does not depend on their price in the transfer market.

It sounds like you're backtracking now.

I never said "OMG I DON'T WANT BENAYOUN HE IS SHIT BECAUSE HE ISN'T £40m". I just said he, on his own, does not strengthen our midfield compared to last season. We have loads of money and should not be settling for a last minute loan signing of a 31-year-old Chelsea exile who was recently seriously injured. It smacks of desperation, a complete lack of planning, and penny pinching.

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toythatkills

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The "Wenger system" is proven not to work. His 4-5-1/4-3-3 hybrid set-up doesn't work. We get walked over by any team who has a manager that's worked out how to play us.

That's not going to stop him playing it, though, which means Gyan will just rot on the right wing like all his other strikers.

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The Fox

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Nasi came out in the French papers and said that Wenger has no money to spend, i don't know how much wieght you want to put onto his word but the fact that you can't even try and purchase Benny and are instead aiming for a loan speaks volumes

Did Dortmund confirm the reports that we bid €25-30m for Götze yesterday? Rafael Honigstein reckoned it was legit. If that's true then obviously there is money there, we're just useless at spending it.

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