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hercules

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Looks like we're a two man team then.

Also SHITCUNT :angry:

It ook us with 6key players out and very bad defending for them to finally beat us in the league.

If Rooney or Owen stayed fit, they'd have run away with it? If Fabregas.. If Hargreaves.. Doesn't stop.

But Spurs played valiantly, great match.

WTF?????

Rooney has hardly missed a game.... do you watch football?

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tonymg

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WTF?????

Rooney has hardly missed a game.... do you watch football?

I'm guessing he means the loss to chelsea and the draw at blackburn, but thats not taking into account where you would be with Van Persie. A better example would have been VDS, Vidic, Ferdinand.

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Baz

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Post mortem time!

Uh so Jerome Boateng is going to Man Citeh by the looks of it, so he's probably not going to be our new centre back. Vermaelen-Gallas-Campbell-Silvestre for 10/11? Probably! :/

There is ZERO chance of Silvestre playing for Arsenal next season. I think there's only a slightly higher chance of Almunia being number one.

I think Wenger will splash out on another CB - around 10m - to form a partnership with Vermaelen. Djourou will be back and Sol will stay for another year as 4th choice. Unless Gallas is happy to cut his demands & sign a 1 year contract - with no 1st team guarantee - I think he'll be off to Italy on a big final contract. Would love to see him stay if he was up for it, but to be honest I think it's time to find a new first choice CB who works with Vermaelen and isn't consistently injured. Having said that there's been injuries all over the pitch this season, young and old, all season, so there's no guarantees anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if Djourou is given a chance to prove himself whoever is brought in.

Vermaelen - New CB/Djourou - Campbell

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Lucky

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I know we had a lot of key players missing, Gallas, Song, Cesc, Arshavin & RVP would all be starters, but there was some real shit performances out there tonight.

Some of these players need to take a good look at themselves and ask themselves if they are really up for this.

I thought Campbell was our best player tonight, just ahead of RVP who has been out for 5 months and was only on the pitch for 25 miuntes. Clichy did alright too.

Why is Sylvestre at the club?

Why do we persist with Denilson who is consistently average, doesn't do anything majorly wrong but does nothing good either. Always almost a 6 out of 10.

Diaby. Not sure what to say. Has 1 good game in every 10. Tonight was one of the other 9. I think I hate him.

Rosicky and Nasri need to do much more than what they did tonight. Kind of nearly did a bit ok. That's not really good enough though.

Eboue and Walcott. Not bad I suppose but 6 out of 10 wont quite do.

Bendtner? Maybe a 6 too? Didn't have his best game.

Almunia? Could have done better with their first goal I suppose, not really about tonight but he's not good enough.

I said on here yesterday, we've lost nearly all our hard games this season. Utd & Chelsea home and away, Citeh away, Barca away, somehow scraped a draw at home to Barca. You can add away to the scum to that list now.

I don't mean to go overboard, I know we had loads of key players missing and to be in the title race with 5 games left or so is better than I thought at the beginning of the season.

Maybe that's the problem though. To just about still be in the race with 5 games left and out of every other competition is not really good enough.

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fatbob

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WTF?????

Rooney has hardly missed a game.... do you watch football?

Yeah, he's played a lot, but if he had played and it won United the last two games against Chelsea and Rovers then they probably would have run away with it given the remaining fixtures.

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Art Vandelay

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I don't see the point in spending money on players who will play in the same system as we have now. Vermaelen is excellent, yet our defence is a mess. Our first choice back 4 still make so many routine mistakes and yet are all good individually. Wenger can't coach defenders and the sooner he addresses it the better.

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Baz

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I know we had a lot of key players missing, Gallas, Song, Cesc, Arshavin & RVP would all be starters, but there was some real shit performances out there tonight.

Some of these players need to take a good look at themselves and ask themselves if they are really up for this.

I thought Campbell was our best player tonight, just ahead of RVP who has been out for 5 months and was only on the pitch for 25 miuntes. Clichy did alright too.

Why is Sylvestre at the club?

Why do we persist with Denilson who is consistently average, doesn't do anything majorly wrong but does nothing good either. Always almost a 6 out of 10.

Diaby. Not sure what to say. Has 1 good game in every 10. Tonight was one of the other 9. I think I hate him.

Rosicky and Nasri need to do much more than what they did tonight. Kind of nearly did a bit ok. That's not really good enough though.

Eboue and Walcott. Not bad I suppose but 6 out of 10 wont quite do.

Bendtner? Maybe a 6 too? Didn't have his best game.

Almunia? Could have done better with their first goal I suppose, not really about tonight but he's not good enough.

I said on here yesterday, we've lost nearly all our hard games this season. Utd & Chelsea home and away, Citeh away, Barca away, somehow scraped a draw at home to Barca. You can add away to the scum to that list now.

I don't mean to go overboard, I know we had loads of key players missing and to be in the title race with 5 games left or so is better than I thought at the beginning of the season.

Maybe that's the problem though. To just about still be in the race with 5 games left and out of every other competition is not really good enough.

Most worried about Diaby to be honest. A month or two ago it looked to be all coming together for him - I think 1/10 good games is harsh, but he's lost his nut recently and any title chasing side cannot afford to have players in the centre of the pitch having such off days. His naivity in closing down and anticipating the ball in defence is the biggest shame as he has all the physical attributes to step up when Song isn't available, but we've known for a while he's no DM. On his day he's unstoppable - it's so frustrating. Denilson is a useful squad player, nothing more. Devastated about Ramsey of course - he had it all going for him. Pray that when he returns he carries on where he left off. Song/Ramsey/Fabregas could be a great midfield for years to come. Nasri has the attributes to be great, and I think he could be great in the middle - I think we'll see the best of him next season. Rosicky I think we'll see less of. I think Wilshere will be back and involved in 20-30 games. Walcott hasn't got the ball skills or intelligence to be a great player, but with his pace he can do great things - not a starter for me though. And as much as I love Bendtner Arsenal aren't gonna build a team round him.

So I think with a fit squad it's a GK and CB away from another serious challenge, but you're dead right about losing nearly all the games against hard opposition - even with all the player fit this tactical naivity against the very best will cost Wenger's teams.

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WTF?????

Rooney has hardly missed a game.... do you watch football?

You might think its a bad example, but the point remains true. Pretty much every team in every league in world football going back to the day the game was invented will be able to come up with a countless number of "if only" moments which would have seen them go onto glory. If only that player wasn't injured, if only we had been given that penalty, if only that offside goal against us had been disallowed.

Truth is, its the nature of the game. Yes, the team who wins the league will often be the one who has the most luck with injuries. The team who wins the cup is often the one who gets the kindest draw. The team who get 11 own goals in a season (Manchester United) will probably finish above the team who don't, but while Arsenals injuries might be annoying for gooners, they arent the only club whos fans will be claiming they would have had more points if bad luck hadnt played a part in their campaign.

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Yeah, he's played a lot, but if he had played and it won United the last two games against Chelsea and Rovers then they probably would have run away with it given the remaining fixtures.

How is that comparable to RVP missing 5 months (or whatever it was)? Seriously, why is this even being argued? If you can't get by without Rooney for two games then you don't deserve to win the league. Where do you think you'd be had he been out for the length of time RVP has been? I know Bendtner is well liked in these parts, but I have to say I think it's amazing that Arsenal were even still in contention at this point in the season, given the players they're relying on.

You might think its a bad example, but the point remains true. Pretty much every team in every league in world football going back to the day the game was invented will be able to come up with a countless number of "if only" moments which would have seen them go onto glory. If only that player wasn't injured, if only we had been given that penalty, if only that offside goal against us had been disallowed.

Truth is, its the nature of the game. Yes, the team who wins the league will often be the one who has the most luck with injuries. The team who wins the cup is often the one who gets the kindest draw. The team who get 11 own goals in a season (Manchester United) will probably finish above the team who don't, but while Arsenals injuries might be annoying for gooners, they arent the only club whos fans will be claiming they would have had more points if bad luck hadnt played a part in their campaign.

All of this is true enough. It was a terrible example, though.

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So I think with a fit squad it's a GK and CB away from another serious challenge, but you're dead right about losing nearly all the games against hard opposition - even with all the player fit this tactical naivity against the very best will cost Wenger's teams.

United were routinely wank against the top teams last year and still got a massive point haul. The problem at this point of the season is that those losses are exaggerated when in all honestly it's the shitty draws and out of the blue losses against weaker opposition that are just as much an issue.

I really like Diaby for entertainment value, I don't think i've ever watched a player who can go from the sublime to the ridiculous in a matter of strides. Silvestre will get all the blame for the second goal but what was Sanga doing? In the Barca game an almost identical thing happened with Clichy, for a team that had arguably the best full back pairing in the league 2 years ago it really has gone to pot.

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Charliemouse

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It all fairness, your defending around the edge of the box was great and I felt bale had a dinger. Still, let's not let the win get to your heads or the loss get to our hearts.

Bale has been excellent for months now and I cant wait to see him and Lennon play together on the opposite wings as I dont think they have ever really had the chance before.

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redbloodcell

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It all fairness, your defending around the edge of the box was great and I felt bale had a dinger. Still, let's not let the win get to your heads or the loss get to our hearts.

Hope you're over it by the Man City game, its not only in our interests to keep them out of the CL places!

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Dude Ranch

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And a Spurs team with half of its 1st team missing too. :huh:

That's a fair point, you did have players out. Lennon, Palicios and so on. I think our injury list has taken the biscuit though. Neither first choice CB ended the game, none of our three first choice CM, our best striker reduced to a twenty minute cameo performance. Arshavin. That's seven players. It's all ifs and buts now though.

I think the keeper fucked up for the first goal, terrific strike not withstanding. Diaby was terrible, I'd hate to to play with him. Who knows what kind of pass he's going to give next? Walcott did OK but isn't right, our system doesn't suit him and he ends up watching on. I think Campbell was possibly our best player but he's a backwards step.

The one thing that annoys me is that we still over play. The lack of attempts after 70 minutes was embarrassing. It took RvP coming on to get any kind of urgency and penetration. Spurs defended well but we made it so easy for them.

And of course, RvP. What a massive shame that we were without him this year. Only Bendtner has really stepped up to the plate, IMO.

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