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El Pibe

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Wenger has a lot to answer for today. If he thinks our squad isn't up to scratch to compete on all fronts then he has to strengthen it. Bombing out of every competition every year because we can't cope just isn't good enough.

Would you rather be American owned and in a complete mess?

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Steve007

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Wenger has a lot to answer for today. If he thinks our squad isn't up to scratch to compete on all fronts then he has to strengthen it. Bombing out of every competition every year because we can't cope just isn't good enough.

I'd have started with a strong team and then taken players off once we are a few goals up rather than the other way around, that's if I believed they needed resting (which I can't see how they do, we have hardly played a lot of football this year).

Wenger needs to show a bit of respect to the competition and more importantly to the fans who travelled up to Stoke instead of mugging us off all the time.

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Traore has been absolutely abject in every match he's played this year. The team didn't play well but he really didn't help.

Theo was poor, but wasn't given that much of an opportunity really-we never put him into space or helped on the wings much.

Very impressed with Sol though-looked pretty solid for the most part.

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Traore has been absolutely abject in every match he's played this year.

He needs to be an AML, I'm not sure if it is his idea or Wenger's to make him sit at the back but he doesn't suit it. And he probably needs to be an AML on loan in the Championship too.

Vela and Walcott were both worse though.

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So another season without trophies then? With Liverpool & Man United out the cup, the FA Cup was definitely something the club should have been going all out to win.

If anyone honestly thinks we have a chance with the league & Champions League then I want whatever you are on.

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Feel a bit sorry for Coquelin as he's not a right back, he's a DMF. Plus it must be pretty shit making your debut out of position & in a weakened team.

Walcott and Vela just don't seem able to step up to the next level.

Fabianski isn't good enough to be a number 1.

Silvestre is shit but we knew that already.

Traore isn't good enough, I suppose he is 3rd choice LB though.

As for winning the league, we'll know a hell of a lot more after the next 4 games. As for the CL, it's a cup competition we are actually taking seriously so why not? You never know.

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SeanR

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So, I've got the GFs siblings and their partners round, and I'm sitting there in my Arsenal t-shirt, with the telly on mute... Mind you there were 2 liverpool fans amongst the men present.

write your own punchline. :D

ps. I had subtitles on, it kept refering to Traore as Kolo Toure :D

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Feel a bit sorry for Coquelin as he's not a right back, he's a DMF. Plus it must be pretty shit making your debut out of position & in a weakened team.

He wasn't that bad, really. His "OMGTHAT'SGOINGINIT'SANOWNGOALTHISISALLGOINGWRONGIHATEOURGOALKEEPERSPOORGUY...Oh, it didn't go in" clearance around the post was pretty good for a start. I don't think anyone would pick him out as the worst player on the pitch...I don't think he'd make my top 5 actually.

Damning him with faint praise there, for certain. But good on the kid.

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Dude Ranch

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If we lose any of these games then I think we're in trouble. We seem to have badly fucked up these big pressure fortnights every single time in the last 5 years.

Yes, exactly.

Our seasons always seem to come to a crashing halt shortly after conceding a cup tie with a weakened team.

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Steve007

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Yes, exactly.

Our seasons always seem to come to a crashing halt shortly after conceding a cup tie with a weakened team.

The bottom line is that Wenger causes these problems! I am a strong believer that you should never change a winning team! We have been doing very well recently, we have dropped a few points here and there but the team have been doing great. Resting players is always counter-productive as they may not play for a week or more due to being 'rested' and when they next pull on the shirt they have lost that rhythm and continuity.

Chelsea win more often than not because they field their strongest side at all times (ok they might drop one or two but no more than that). We won trophies by fielding our best team whenever possible. It's so frustrating. The FA Cup clearly means fuck all to Wenger. If we are not going to try to win it, then why bother taking part in the first place? That defeat yesterday will damage morale and knock everyone's confidence. If we put our best 11 out, we could have won that game and gone into the next fortnight full of confidence and belief.

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toythatkills

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If we put our best 11 out, we could have won that game and gone into the next fortnight full of confidence and belief.

Or we could have lost it, lost Vermaelen and Arshavin to injury for a month each, and fucked up every competition at once. Who knows?

To be honest, I'm with Wenger here, I don't give a shit about the FA Cup anymore. Winning trophies for the sake of winning trophies, well, if you'd be happy with that let's hope Arse get relegated, the Johnstone's Paint trophy should be easy enough to win. YAY. TROPHY.

I'd rather have the league, or the Champion's League. I'd rather come second in the league by a point having been competitive and consistent all season than win the fucking Carling Cup.

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Or we could have lost it, lost Vermaelen and Arshavin to injury for a month each, and fucked up every competition at once. Who knows?

To be honest, I'm with Wenger here, I don't give a shit about the FA Cup anymore. Winning trophies for the sake of winning trophies, well, if you'd be happy with that let's hope Arse get relegated, the Johnstone's Paint trophy should be easy enough to win. YAY. TROPHY.

I'd rather have the league, or the Champion's League. I'd rather come second in the league by a point having been competitive and consistent all season than win the fucking Carling Cup.

Not good enough to win the league or CL. Yes, I like to think we are good enough but we are not. Anyway, 'the next game' should always be the most important one, it's bad management to have one eye on a week or two's time. It's been proven time and time and time again that resting players causes more problems than it solves. I don't understand why footballers need rest anyway. If they were playing 3 games a week I could almost understand them being owed some rest, but we have hardly been taxed lately!

It's a very sad state of affairs when people don't care about the FA Cup anymore. If we got past Stoke then there's only a couple more games before we are at Wembley! A team is judged on what it wins. If we had managed to win the FA Cup then it would be a successful season. Finishing in the top 4 is a good season on paper as it brings the money in, but a team like Arsenal needs to be winning trophies. Cesc isn't going to hang around if he sees the team are not capable of winning things (by all accounts he's all but sealed a summer move to Barcelona anyway).

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It's been proven time and time and time again that resting players causes more problems than it solves.

A link to that extensive research would be appreciated.

A team is judged on what it wins.

In 25 years time, I'm not going to look back and wonder what might have been if only we'd played Gallas against Stoke in the FA Cup in 2009/2010. Personally, I'll judge the team how I want to judge it.

If trophies really are the only thing that's important to you then it's lucky you support a team that's capable, eh?

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Dude Ranch

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I'll disregard your made up point about that, then.

To be fair, recent history has seen us crumble after fielding weak sides in the FA Cup.

I mean, I can see the logic and the FA Cup is the least prestigious or desirable competition. But we did have a great chance this year and this team desperately needs to win something fast. And it's OK resting players but we're just as likely to lose players to injury in training. If the squad is so thin that we can't cope then something needs to be done NOW. We've all been saying this for five years. There are too many maybes and not enough action.

One thing is clear, we can't wait forever for Walcott. And Vela. They're both bottle jobs.

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The Fox

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Does Wenger really think we're in with a shout in the Champions League? Assuming not, it seems a risk to put all his eggs effectively into the one 'Premier League' basket like this. I think if you'd asked most fans pre-season if they'd be happy with challenging for (but not winning) the league and winning the FA Cup, they'd probably have taken it.

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