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I've only seen the 'clean' pic that's been posted in this thread as I hate looking at these things but it does look an appalling challenge. If it's mistimed and you hit the leg you know you've missed and can take out some force by bending your leg as much as possible. He must have that locked to break it from the front like that. Disgusting. I just hope Eduardo can recover.

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DC Lemon

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That's a truly horrible break and I can understand why Wenger would be upset and angry over it to say what he did in the heat of the moment, but none of the commentators or pundits saw it as in intentionally malicious tackle. It was pointed out (and I agree with this having watched the match live on Sky) that Taylor wasn't even going to get a yellow for the challenge until the ref saw the extent of the injury.

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Dude Ranch

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That's a truly horrible break and I can understand why Wenger would be upset and angry over it to say what he did in the heat of the moment, but none of the commentators or pundits saw it as in intentionally malicious tackle. It was pointed out (and I agree with this having watched the match live on Sky) that Taylor wasn't even going to get a yellow for the challenge until the ref saw the extent of the injury.

You've seen the pictures mate and you know the form when teams like these play Arsenal. It doesn't take a genius to work out what happened. Out of interest, although no-one can't say for sure if he went in to hurt him, are you genuinely prepared to accept that he went in like that in the first two minutes with absolutely no intention of leaving his mark? Cos I'm not prepared to accept that. I think that hand on heart all of us know he went in to give him a clout early doors.

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fatbob

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Fucking hell! Thats horrid.

Hope he recovers from this. sleep.gif

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Daley

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I feel sick. The injury, the result, the penalty, what a bad day. Poor Eduardo, I know it might sound weird but I feel most sorry for him missing Euro 2008, he looked like he was such an important player for them. :wacko:

Hopefully he can recover.

I thought Wenger went too far saying what he did but seeing the pictures the Birmingham player should never be allowed to play again.

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That's a truly horrible break and I can understand why Wenger would be upset and angry over it to say what he did in the heat of the moment, but none of the commentators or pundits saw it as in intentionally malicious tackle. It was pointed out (and I agree with this having watched the match live on Sky) that Taylor wasn't even going to get a yellow for the challenge until the ref saw the extent of the injury.

To be fair these pundits would be going all day about how malicious the tackle was if it was committed by a foreign player on an English player.

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DC Lemon

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You've seen the pictures mate and you know the form when teams like these play Arsenal. It doesn't take a genius to work out what happened. Out of interest, although no-one can't say for sure if he went in to hurt him, are you genuinely prepared to accept that he went in like that in the first two minutes with absolutely no intention of leaving his mark? Cos I'm not prepared to accept that. I think that hand on heart all of us know he went in to give him a clout early doors.

The stills look incriminating, there's no arguing with that, and for obvious reasons no one's really showing the footage again to be able to make a better judgement. The radio commentary was just on Five Live again and the commentator originally called it a 'clumsy challenge'.

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It was disguised somewhat by the fact that there was also another player tackling him from behind. Then I saw Cesc's face and I knew exactly what had happened.

Everyone was stunned, apart from Flamini who was walking around making sure everyone was ok and giving them a pat on the back. Very good to see.

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Dude Ranch

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The stills look incriminating, there's no arguing with that, and for obvious reasons no one's really showing the footage again to be able to make a better judgement. The radio commentary was just on Five Live again and the commentator originally called it a 'clumsy 'challenge'.

Clumsy is falling over on someone. A studs up foot in the middle of the shin, with the ball gone, resulting in a leg snapped in half is fucking malicious.

Sorry mate, not having a go. I'm just gutted about it.

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That's a truly horrible break and I can understand why Wenger would be upset and angry over it to say what he did in the heat of the moment, but none of the commentators or pundits saw it as in intentionally malicious tackle.

Their position, I assume, would be roughly the position we saw it from, where you didn't really see what happened. Without wanting to labour the point; as a professional footballer if you ever find yourself doing this to another footballer:

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You shouldn't ever play again. Whether it was malicious or not is almost irrelevant - in fact you're almost better off it being malicious, at least if it was intentional you could promise not to do it again (after an extra-ordinarily long banning). If it was an accident than for the sake of other professional footballers you shouldn't play again as there's no guarantee you can stop yourself from doing it again.

Shevchenko's point is a good one, had Eduardo done this to Taylor the reaction from most of the media would have been much, much more damning.

Edit: just looking at that photo again he's a fucking mile from the ball, it looks like there's no attempt to play the ball. Regardless, I'll put money on him getting a six match ban at worse.

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Silent Runner

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It just feels strange to tackle Eduardo like Taylor did. If Tayler aimed for the ball, why did he attack Eduardo´s shinbone area?

Honestly, I can´t image Tayler doing it deliberately. But it just feels strange.

why can't you imagine it being deliberate? mangers send their teams out to get stuck into arsenal from the kick off to soften them up, I've no problem believing that's what happened today.

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Shevchenko's point is a good one, had Eduardo done this to Taylor the reaction from most of the media would have been much, much more damning.

I absolutely agree. The media reaction so far is very, very calm and that certainly would be different if it would concern Rooney or Owen.

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Dude Ranch

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why can't you imagine it being deliberate? mangers send their teams out to get stuck into arsenal from the kick off to soften them up, I've no problem believing that's what happened today.

Exactly. Wenger said it was waiting to happen and that's 100% correct. Opposition fans, managers, players all revel in the tactic of roughing up Arsenal, 'getting in amongst them' and this is what was bound to happen sooner or later. l'm not saying for one minute that Taylor wanted this end result but when put yourself into a position of wanting to hurt the player early in a game then this can happen. I'll never believe he didn't go for him and he should be ashamed. I hope he wakes up every night replaying it in horror. He can never be distraught enough about it about.

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I doubt that Eduardo will never play again. People have mentioned his injury being similar to the Coventry City bloke that unfortunately ended his career with a snapped leg. Djibril Cisse has snapped both legs and still came back to play at the same level he did before his terrible injuries (yes I know, he's not very good and that level is fairly low).

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Their position, I assume, would be roughly the position we saw it from, where you didn't really see what happened. Without wanting to labour the point; as a professional footballer if you ever find yourself doing this to another footballer:

You shouldn't ever play again. Whether it was malicious or not is almost irrelevant - in fact you're almost better off it being malicious, at least if it was intentional you could promise not to do it again (after an extra-ordinarily long banning). If it was an accident than for the sake of other professional footballers you shouldn't play again as there's no guarantee you can stop yourself from doing it again.

Shevchenko's point is a good one, had Eduardo done this to Taylor the reaction from most of the media would have been much, much more damning.

Edit: just looking at that photo again he's a fucking mile from the ball, it looks like there's no attempt to play the ball. Regardless, I'll put money on him getting a six match ban at worse.

Agree with all of this.

How much of a ban is necessary to make players think twice about lunging in studs first though? There's too many tackles still fresh in my mind from earlier this season that were just as bad, if not worse.

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This is really upsetting, I've been a big admirer of his and felt he was going to become a big player for you. Whether Taylor meant it or not (I really cannot tell) I think he should be made an example of for what looks like a career threatening tackle.

It's all a terrible shame.

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