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Daley

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From today's F365 "winners and losers" piece. There was an interesting piece on Walcott in the NotW on Sunday as well, whereby they suggest a season long loan for Theo would be a good move and pointing out the good it had done Bendtner. Their dire warnings that he might be the next Jeffers were perhaps a little OTT, but they made a valid point that in 2 years he hasn't progressed at all.

Seems I wasn't the only one who thought that...

Theo was shocking. Really bad. Done absolutely nothing and gave the ball away continuously. I don't think he is a winger, he is a striker but I wouldn't pick him ahead of any of the other 4 strikers we have so I am not sure where we go from here. Personally I don't think he will "make it" at Arsenal.

It's a bit of a crossroads for the boy. Either he plays him in position and we have no more excuses about out of position or he loans him out to get a bit of experience and confidence or we just cut our losses because Saturday, and performances like that, just cannot continue. It was like playing with 10 men.

But we are signing a 15 year old!

And in other news today, the sun came up. :o

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Dude Ranch

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I tried to get it online but failed, thankfully. I haven't seen any of it and that suits me. The wheels have come off a bit but it doesn't have to be fatal. United are looking great and must be favourites but we can still do it. I do think complacency might have set in a bit. Starting to believe our own press, maybe.

We need van Persie back cos he gives us something no-one else can.

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Lucky

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I don't think we need to panic just yet, yeah the performance on Saturday was shit and yeah it was definitely 2pts dropped but lets not forget Man Utd lost to West Ham recently and Bolton too not that long ago. I'm not saying we can afford to do this too often but it's not all over, not by a long way.

I saw the highlights, most of the game actually, on football first and even though we didn't play well at all, really we missed a fair few chances that on other days would have gone in. It all seems a bit worse 'cos after we fucked up we had to watch Man Utd, especially Ronaldo, absolutely destroy Newcastle.

It is getting to the critical point of the season however and we need someone to step up and give us a spark, maybe Cesc or Hleb could do it, maybe RVP to come back from injury and give us something different, or maybe Eduardo to step up and keep playing & scoring on a regular basis in the PL.

I feel pretty sure that it'll go all the way to the last couple of games or so, we just need to keep going one game at a time and keep up with Utd and you never know. I don't see why we can't win it.

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Hopefully a lesson has been learnt - keep the fancy flicks and tricks away until you are 3 goals or more clear.

It was so bloody annoying - at one stage there were Sagna, Walcott and one other doing training ground triangles of keep ball level with the penalty area instead of actually trying to score a goal (or so it seemed). Then you have one second of lost concentration and it's an uphill struggle after that whoever you are playing.

I also think there was a bit of karma reversal following the Everton, Burnley and Spurs games but mostly it was over elaboration during the first half in particular which cost us (and playing with 10 men as pointed out earlier). Cesc also had a shocker by his standards, looking for the most difficult pass all the time, and when that happens you have to rethink and try to keep it simple.

You accept these games come along every season but the margins are so fine these days we can't afford many more.

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Cesc also had a shocker by his standards, looking for the most difficult pass all the time, and when that happens you have to rethink and try to keep it simple.

Cesc has been off the boil since he came back from injury. He had a similar poor spell last season. We really need him to get back on track cos he makes us tick. We also need need the Ivory Coast to get spanked out of the ACN ASAP.

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Lucky

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Just seen that Cesc has got 8 yellow cards and Flamini has 7 yellows.

Do you get a 3 game ban when you reach 10 or is it just the 1 game?

Also Clichy and Eduardo are on 4 yellows, 1 away from a 1 game ban.

(nothing much else going on is there?)

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Dude Ranch

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(nothing much else going on is there?)

Vague rumours of a loan for Theo to West Ham. To be quite honest, they can have him.

Also, Diarra to Pompey? Which would be a big backward step for him. I still hope he has a rethink. Plus, there's no guarantee that Flamini will sign a deal. If he goes and Diarra goes then we need one of two ready made midfielders. Which might not be a massively bad idea cos we could splash £25 and get someone ready made and world class. I think the best thing would be for Flamini and Diarra to stay though.

Just thinking out loud.

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Genuine question, does Wenger fetish young players a bit too much? Sometimes I think he is happier to run the club for profit than to necessarily win stuff.

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Dude Ranch

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Genuine question, does Wenger fetish young players a bit too much? Sometimes I think he is happier to run the club for profit than to necessarily win stuff.

I did go through a spell of wondering similar, if it was kind of his own personal experiment. But I think he's just setting the Club up for the future. We're making a lot of money but we still have a lot of debt. Buying young talented players means they grow up knowing the Arsenal way. It would be hard or impossible to slot a ready made player (purely for example, Ballack) into the team. And the way we play from the front side to the kids justifies his approach, IMO.

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Lucky

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I think Wenger is running the club like it's his and he will be at the club forever. (good thing in my opinion)

If he wanted to I'm sure he could splash the cash and make us as strong as possible right now but not necessarily in years to come when he's not around, but this is not his way as we all know. He's building something massive that will get bigger and stronger long after he's long gone. The youngsters he keeps finding, the new stadium, the refusal to pay inflated prices for players and the wage structure are all proof that he has the clubs long term interest in mind and not just trying to get as much out of the club and as much personal glory as he can while being at the club.

For example O'Leary at Leeds was prepared to spend as much as is needed to make his time there the most succesfull in the clubs history even if the risks were massive, and even if it had worked the club would surely still have had to pay for it in the future.

I know which route I'd like to take.

Also we've hardly been starved of top quality players and trophies along the way have we.

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Fair point, I certainly like the way Wenger runs the club, and you seem to be finding a bit more steel if the Chelsea match is anything to go by.

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I don't think we need to panic just yet, yeah the performance on Saturday was shit and yeah it was definitely 2pts dropped but lets not forget Man Utd lost to West Ham recently and Bolton too not that long ago. I'm not saying we can afford to do this too often but it's not all over, not by a long way.

This.

Marathon, not a sprint etc.

Arsenal are doing a lot better this season than anyone thought the team would be capable of and with 16 matches left, it's squeaky bum time!

With regard to the "wenger way" (young players/transfer profits), all you have to do is look at how many clubs are trying to emulate Arsenal to see how successful it is.

However, I'm not sure I agree that "ready-made" players can't fit in. Gallas is certainly a better defender than any of the recent academy graduates and arguably a better captain than Vieira and he's not an Arsenal product. If a player of Ballack's quality (picking on Dude Ranch's example) couldn't fit into the Arsenal squad, surely this speaks of Wenger's failings?

My other concern is that Wenger's teams seem to have a mental fragility that other clubs don't. Like or loathe Demento or Mourninho, you have to admit they are excellent at creating a siege mentality whereby their teams bounce back from defeat. I always fear Arsenal are one loss from collapse. Certainly, their form has been poor since they played Villa in one of the toughest games they have had this season.

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Lucky

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Diarra agrees Pompey deal

What an absolute tosser!!

No disrespect to Portsmouth, but challenging for the PL, Champions league, FA Cup and even the Carling Cup every year or playing for Portsmouth?

It seems he wants regular football now to be sure he gets in the French squad/team for the Euros, but what's he gonna do next season?

No fight in him whatsoever, what a wanker. No wonder Chelsea let him go so easily.

If Wenger's let him go, couldn't really stop him I suppose, I hope that means Flamini will be signing a new contract.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3052445,00.html

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Genuine question, does Wenger fetish young players a bit too much? Sometimes I think he is happier to run the club for profit than to necessarily win stuff.

Possibly. My latest ludicrous theory is that he's developing a team of exceptional English talent who'll win him the Premiership in 5-6 years time. He'll then become England coach winning the World Cup in 2014 with the same core group of players.

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Lucky

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It is a fantastic profit in just a few months, but that's not really what Arsenal are about. I'd rather he wanted to stay and fight for his place, Flamini or Diarra to partner Cesc would be a great option to have.

But seeing as he's a wanker who's not prepared to even wait or fight for his chance then he can fuck right off. Doesn't he realise that he's in direct competion with Flamini who's arguably been our best player this season, what exactly does Diarra expect to happen?

I don't know why he doesn't wait for an injury or suspension to Flamini and then he'll have a chance to show what he can do. Surely he should have at least given it this season. He's shown absolutely no fight, no belief in himself and his ability, no respect to Wenger or the club and it's fans.

He's shown that he is an example of what some footballers are about nowadays, beleive their own hype and thinking they have an automatic right to be in the team, he's actually getting a pay rise of about £20 K a week by moving to Portsmouth (I've read he's on 40 at Arsenal and has agreed 60 with Pompey). He's at one of the biggest clubs in the world, a club with about 20+ or so internationals, he's been there 5 minutes and he thinks he should be playing every week? What a complete tosser!!

I can't think of another Arsenal player that has pissed me off this much!!

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