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hercules

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Sky one? I watched it on sky sports extra. It was a boring game, slavia kicked the shit out of us and got away with it. The condition of the pitch wasn't great due to rain and we weren't clicking. Eduardo is wasted on the left, walcott looked better when playing upfront. song looked good. I'm just glad we kept a clean sheet and qualified.

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Dude Ranch

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Diarra stood out again. Diaby is good but has no final ball. Gilberto offers very little now. Walcott is often a complete waste of time.

Not an easy game, job done.

On the subject of Walcott, someone caused a stir on here recently by saying he'd never make it. I didn't agree and I still think he can make the grade, but what will we deem a success from him? I was thinking about this during the game. 500 apperances and 100 goals? Would that qualify as a successful career at the Club and money well spent? Cos to be honest, there's no way I'd put money on him achieving that. Would anyone else? I know it's early doors for him but with the talent and hype I expect a bit more than runs down blind alleys and no final product. He clearly isn't up to playing wide and last night was a slog but still, it's disappointing.

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anders limpar

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that game was SNOOZE CITY.

i agree with the dude on walcott; just because henry was a winger at juventus/monaco doesn't mean that every single striker with pace has to be sent to coventry on the flanks. we're even doing it with eduardo!

diaby i really rate, but he is lost on the wings. our problem with midfield is that we have six top players vying for two central midfield spots, and only two who can actually play out wide. although we're flying at the moment, once we invariably lose a bit of momentum and get a few injuries we are really thin on the wing. please arsene can we have a wide man for christmas?

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diaby i really rate, but he is lost on the wings. our problem with midfield is that we have six top players vying for two central midfield spots, and only two who can actually play out wide. although we're flying at the moment, once we invariably lose a bit of momentum and get a few injuries we are really thin on the wing. please arsene can we have a wide man for christmas?

I'll tell you what we need, specifically. A new Anders Limpar ^_^ . Someone who can terrorise defences from out wide and chip in with goals. We haven't had a winger since Overmars, I agree that we could really do with one now. I think it would add the final dimension to our game.

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Me, yesterday.

Please Arsene, get us Malouda or Robben for Xmas.

I know we need a winger but even Father Christmas couldn't get us one of those.

Queresma - maybe

Ribery - will he stay in Germany if Arsenal show an interest? Price tag could kill/has killed this one though.

someone unknown - more likely

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Lucas

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I know we need a winger but even Father Christmas couldn't get us one of those.

Queresma - maybe

Ribery - will he stay in Germany if Arsenal show an interest? Price tag could kill/has killed this one though.

someone unknown - more likely

^_^ Yeah, I know. Just the 2 I'd most like. I think Robben would be great for us. I toyed with adding Ronaldo to that list!

Ribery won't come. He said he wanted CL football but then moved for money. Wenger won't sign him now.

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hercules

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Lets get one thing straight, walcott isn't a winger he is a striker. He didn't play that well last night but apart form Diarra and Diaby who else did? Ppls views on him change game by game and it makes me laugh. Babel is having just the same probs at liverpool as he isn't really a winger either. I agree we need a real winger but the likelyhood of getting one of those players is very slim.

Diarra had a wicked game again last night as did Diaby though i agree that Diaby is wasted on the left. I still wanna see Diarra in midfield he just looks so tidy on the ball and a great prospect, i must admit i'm suprised as i didn't see much of him at chelsea which impressed me but he looks the b*****ks.

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hercules

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Fergie makes me laugh, moaning about arsenal not having many english players. He only has alot of english players because he is prepared to pay over the odds for them:

Rooney-£30mil

Ferdinand-£30mil

Carrick-£18mil

Hargreaves-£18mil

I mean come on that is shit loads of money, carrick and hargreaves combined cost as much as our starting 11!

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SeanR

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teh media has a DEFINATE MUFC bias

"If MUFC win today, against Blackburn, they'll go top of the league"

I heard on TimeFM (a local radio station here in SOUTH EAST LONDON)

With no mention of the fact that AFC will have TWO FUCKING GAMES IN HAND!!!

God, that pisses me off...

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Hmm, IIRC a lot of fans in their thread prefer him as a striker...

To be honest I think the majority of people that are saying that hadn't seen much of him before we signed him and expected big things from him this season. He has spent most of his career playing as one of a front three. He's playing deeper for us than he ever has in the past, he's settling into a notoriously difficult league to adapt to and as I said in this very thread when you were first linked with him: He's full of potential but still quite raw. He's never been the most consistent performer either. He's only young and I fully expect Rafa to iron out most of his flaws and to see him terrorising defences and taking the piss out of players on a regular basis in a couple of seasons.

I think too many football fans are guilty of a 'I want it all and I want it now' attitude and I do wonder just what it is that people base their opinions on sometimes because all too often it seems like assumption, rather than considered opinion. Anybody that had watched Ryan Babel play a decent amount of games before he came to England would have known what to expect from him this year. For what it's worth: I'm quite pleased with the way he's settling in and I'm happy with his contribution so far.

I also think that some of that can be applied to Walcott. He is talented enough to succeed at Arsenal, of that I'm sure. Whether he will or not will depend on his character and the patience of the people that matter; Wenger, his team mates and to a lesser extent, the fans. If they're constantly on his back and groaning every time he does something daft or tries something that doesn't come off it'll make things so much more difficult for him. While I don't think playing him on the wing has done anything for his confidence in the short term, it will be teaching him things he maybe wouldn't appreciate while playing upfront. How to make space for himself against top defenders and the importance of doing his part defensively. It is likely to improve his game in the end, you all just have to be patient and wait for him to mature into the player Wenger thinks he can become; it won't happen overnight.

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Fergie makes me laugh, moaning about arsenal not having many english players. He only has alot of english players because he is prepared to pay over the odds for them:

Rooney-£30mil

Ferdinand-£30mil

Carrick-£18mil

Hargreaves-£18mil

I mean come on that is shit loads of money, carrick and hargreaves combined cost as much as our starting 11!

Firstly yes there is premium on English players thats why Arsenal paid 8mil for Jeffers and 4 for Wright.

Also what you define as over the odds? If buying Carrick at 14.5-18 wins the League is that not success how could it be defined any other way?Being champions brings more revenue and spending what the club has on players rather than 'saving' this cash and returning dividends to shareholders or board members - I as a fan would rather the former. Arsenal do have the ability to spend the same cash. but dont what happens when you dont? Are ticket prices reduced? are fans passed back these savings? Of course not. I want my team to spend as much as possible provided its within their means. How this can make you a better manager I dont know - a better negotiator maybe, but then again negations are not even handled by mangers but the financial department( Kenyon at his time at United helped these prices!)

Arsenal have a much larger catchment area under the revised league system for signing youngsters so should have a better youth policy yet continue to poach youngsters like every other club.

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SeanR

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Wes Brown

Danny Simpson

Paul Scholes

Lee Martin

Tom Heaton

Ben Foster

Adam Eckersley

Chris Eagles

Fraizer Campbell

Phil Bardsley

Gary Neville...

Your point being?

all came through the academy and quickly faded into obscurity for the most part. What's YOUR point?

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Firstly yes there is premium on English players thats why Arsenal paid 8mil for Jeffers and 4 for Wright.

Also what you define as over the odds? If buying Carrick at 14.5-18 wins the League is that not success how could it be defined any other way?Being champions brings more revenue and spending what the club has on players rather than 'saving' this cash and returning dividends to shareholders or board members - I as a fan would rather the former. Arsenal do have the ability to spend the same cash. but dont what happens when you dont? Are ticket prices reduced? are fans passed back these savings? Of course not. I want my team to spend as much as possible provided its within their means. How this can make you a better manager I dont know - a better negotiator maybe, but then again negations are not even handled by mangers but the financial department( Kenyon at his time at United helped these prices!)

Arsenal have a much larger catchment area under the revised league system for signing youngsters so should have a better youth policy yet continue to poach youngsters like every other club.

We have been using pretty much all our money for the stadium recently. We don't pay dividends. So we have had to seek out players who cost a bit less. English players traditionally cost more than their foreign equivalents. Personally I don't care where our players are from. I find all this "where's your English players" stuff a bit distasteful. It's one step away from "bloody foreigners took our jobs" racism. I'm not accusing you of racism but managers (with foreign players in their teams) should know better.

Wes Brown

Danny Simpson

Lee Martin

Tom Heaton

Ben Foster

Adam Eckersley

Chris Eagles

Fraizer Campbell

Phil Bardsley

Your point being?

I dunno. Was it you've had loads of English players that were shit?

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I really don't understand why people are again getting their knickers in a twist about something that wasn't said and has, as usual, been sensationalised by the papers.

To add- those figures spent are wrong, Walcott is by far a bigger waste of money. Though I guess you'll all tell me he only cost £4 and the rest in installments dependent on success, forgetting Utd have similar deals.

It's just a shame that Fergusons interview, that I heard for myself on the local radio, XFM, which clarified what was actually said, doesn't get any publicity. I wonder why.

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