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I wouldn't go as far as to say found out. No he didn't play well, and yes he lost the ball and that led to the goal (after a shot, a save, a cross and a foul from which Fabregas had a chance to clear) and he moved from his position in the wall but I won't write him off just yet.

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Flamini got found out a bit didn't he?

Not really. He had a lot of work to do, more than he could cope with. I think we were very adventurous in our play yesterday which made us slightly more vulnerable at the back. As ever, Flamini gave 100% and I can't ask for more than that. If Eboue had made himself available a bit more then perhaps Flamini would have had a few options available to him when he had the ball? Either way, it's nothing to worry about.

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I wouldn't go as far as to say found out. No he didn't play well, and yes he lost the ball and that led to the goal (after a shot, a save, a cross and a foul from which Fabregas had a chance to clear) and he moved from his position in the wall but I won't right him off just yet.

Yes. I think he holds his own. Oddly, for such a dominating peformance, we had few players who stood out. Cesc was good in spells. Hleb obv. was great. I like the fullbacks every week. Toure was OK, I'm stillnot convinced by Gallas although he made one awesome block near the end. Rosicky, Adebayor and Eboue were quite poor (in descending order).

I was surprised by the bench. I think Gilbero has little left to offer this team, not even experience cos he's as likely to come on and screw up as anyone else. Is Eduardo injured? Diaby? Denilson?

I'd like to see some of Diarra. I'll be honest, I can't recall ever seeing him play. I guess he'll play against Sheffield. Anyone got an informed opinion of him?

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I'd like to see some of Diarra. I'll be honest, I can't recall ever seeing him play. I guess he'll play against Sheffield. Anyone got an informed opinion of him?

Not really as Mourinho rarely used him, and when he did he was just filling in at right back or defensive midfield. Never saw enough of him to form a decent opinion really.

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Daley

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...89520-20030648/

Brazil captain Gilberto Silva could be on his way out of Arsenal after an amazing Carling Cup snub.

And keeper Jens Lehmann has also been frozen out again after being told he won't be playing at Sheffield United tomorrow.

Gilberto has been axed from the squad for refusing to play as a makeshift centre-half at Bramall Lane. It is another blow for the midfielder, who has lost his place to Mathieu Flamini this season and his discontent has alerted several clubs, including Juventus and Valencia.

I would be very suprised if Gilberto has done that as he just doesn't seem the type but I guess he has not only lost the captaincy but also his place in the team recently so I guess anything is possible.

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Gilberto doesn't seem the type to throw a wobbler, but maybe he's cracked. In the last few months, he's lost the captaincy, lost his place and has been played mostly out of position when he has palyed.

On top of that Flamini has been playing like nobody could have expected (apart from Wenger) plus he's got Diarra, Diaby and Denilson breathing down his neck.

Tough times for our world cup winner!

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I think Wenger will let him go at the end of the season rather than Jan.

Yeah I'll go along with that too. It seems Flamini, Diarra, Diaby & Denilson is adequate cover in CM. I hope he leaves on a good note though as he really has been excellent for us.

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I think he's actually got a point. Let me guess, you didn't like the 'Champions League place for FA Cup winner' idea either? No offence but these are not stupid ideas, it's only supporters of 'big clubs' who think that - because you're the only ones that stand to lose anything.

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I think he's actually got a point. Let me guess, you didn't like the 'Champions League place for FA Cup winner' idea either? No offence but these are not stupid ideas, it's only supporters of 'big clubs' who think that - because you're the only ones that stand to lose anything.

No, you're right, I don't agree with it either but it has nothing to do with maybe missing out on a place in the champions league but more the fact that the overall quality of the CL would be effected. Now, that might not be the case if it's put into practise but it's absolute fucking bullshit to say that my opinion is based on a fear of one the big teams losing out.

And his point that if a lesser team have a 16year old that's really good and Arsenal, Man utd, Liverpool or Chelsea buy him this will hurt the team. Of course it will but that's football and most of the time it's going to mean a lot to that 16yr old in terms of what they gain in experience and confidence. Of course not always the case but the idea that this kills the game is, I think, bullshit.

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Like i've said before, i think diarra will end up being Fabregas' main partner with the others rotating depending on the game. He is an out and out holding midfielder who is tidy on the ball and i'd like to see more of him personally, but he does need to keep quiet and just work hard in training. I was wondering the same thing about eduardo, he has to at least make it on the bench and walcott has to start sat for me.

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When did you say that before? I say that, that's what I say! :D

Walcott is still only a teenager. He's gone from might-never-be to England's Saviour after a couple of assists against Bolton and Sunderland (hardly great teams) and a couple against a Slavia side I could have scored against.

I still don't think he's ready to start against the likes of a strong Man Yoo side. I think he's better suited as an "impact" sub. He should be starting against the likes of Derby and Fulham.

I'd prefer to see a 4-5-1 with Hleb or Rosicky in "the hole", supporting Adebayor. And yes, before you say it, I still think Adebayor is a donkey, but he has a knack of getting important goals in big games. ;)

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Well it is true as wenger said it. I do believe that diarra will ultimately be cecs' partner with the others rotating depending on the sort of game we're playing i.e if we play a top side diarra will likely play but if we play a more defensive side then diaby or denilson will come in as they have more attacking flair than diarra even though they are good defensive players.

Well he's more capable than eboue so i'd start him against Man Utd.

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I like Walcott, I think he's got the right attitude and qualities to progress and become a great player but I don't think he'll start on Sunday. I think he could play a part though and come off the bench and do a job if required.

Walcott's time will come though and I reckon this season we'll see a few more performances from him like the one he produced against Salavia Prague.

As for Eboue, he either has to improve and stop his nonsense sharpish or he could soon become surplus to requirements.

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http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav...ay+at+Sheff+Utd

I knew it was rubbish.

Gilberto will play for Arsenal at Sheffield United on Wednesday.

Media reports had suggested the Brazilian midfielder would not feature in the Carling Cup tie after refusing to play at centre half at Bramall Lane.

Speaking to Arsenal TV Online on Tuesday afternoon, Wenger vehemently refuted such a suggestion.

“I deny that categorically, and I find this assessment disrespectful to a great professional like Gilberto,” said the manager. “He is 100 per cent professional and is in the squad for tomorrow. He will play.

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Lucky

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probably at the back with Song though?

Starting 11?

Fabianski

Hoyte - Gilberto - Song - Traore

Walcott - Diarra - Denilson - Diaby

Eduardo - Bendtner

Doesn't look bad.

It would be good though to see Diarra and Diaby as a central pairing and Walcott up front with Eduardo. Not sure what that means the the rest of the line up would be though.

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probably at the back with Song though?

Starting 11?

Fabianski

Hoyte - Gilberto - Song - Traore

Walcott - Diarra - Denilson - Diaby

Eduardo - Bendtner

Doesn't look bad.

It would be good though to see Diarra and Diaby as a central pairing and Walcott up front with Eduardo. Not sure what that means the the rest of the line up would be though.

Yes, I kind of agree. It seems an ideal time to give Walcott more experience up-front. That said, I'm quite looking forward to Walcott and Eduardo providing service. Just not sure that Bendtner will do anything with it.

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I think he's actually got a point. Let me guess, you didn't like the 'Champions League place for FA Cup winner' idea either? No offence but these are not stupid ideas, it's only supporters of 'big clubs' who think that - because you're the only ones that stand to lose anything.

It’s bad enough that teams placed 2-4 get in the ‘Champions’ League but these days the competition is about the best teams in Europe playing against the best teams in Europe.

UEFA has already devalued the UEFA cup by having all sorts of tat competing for a once prestigious trophy and in my opinion, the Cup Winners Cup was always a great competition that should never have been scrapped.

You can’t have the domestic cup winners playing in the Champions League, it’s just stupid and goes against the principles of the competition.

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I reckon the cup winners getting in the champions league is a load of bollocks.

The competition is to find the champion of Europe, and realistically it's also more so all about money.

UEFA created it, changed it and tweaked it in such a way that all the top teams from the 'big' football countries would be in it every year.

Liverpool would never have been in it, Chelsea only twice, Arsenal wouldn't have been in it for the past few years, Utd would have missed a few years until this year and teams like Real would also have missed a good few years until this year if only the champions qualify. Barca wouldn't be in it this year.

UEFA want finals like Arsenal v Barca & Liverpool V Meelan. I reckon the final of Porto v Monaco is not what they had in mind while hoping for a dream final.

It might not seem right or fair but this is the elite club competition and UEFA want all the elite clubs in it every year.

Teams like the big 4 from England, Barca and Real, the 2 Milan clubs and Juve & Brian Munich. These are pretty much the giants of the competition and the rest make up the numbers i'm afraid. Some do a good job of it too, like Celtic and Rangers this season.

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