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Of course not, there are some good players in the squad, there’s also some who just need a new boss to bring out their potential. 

 

Realistically Ancellotti for example would still need at least two years to get the team back in the top four, unless Chelsea continue to slide, so why not bring in someone younger who can change the whole atmosphere around the club.

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Rodgers would be great at Arsenal considering the mood around the club at present. 

 

It all went a bit arseways for him at Liverpool when the club failed to secure Sanchez as a Suarez replacement  but he did a good job at the club. 

 

He gets slaughtered because he is addicted to talking shite but he turned Liverpool around. He didn't win any trophy but he made being a Liverpool fan fun again. After the mess of Hicks and Gillett, Hodgson and the frankly dour football of Dalglish Rodgers came in and made simply watching Liverpool an enjoyable experience. That's something he never got enough credit for. 

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Rodgers is unfairly derided as a coach because he’s a complete prat. That said I don’t think he’s at a level to necessarily take Arsenal forward.

 

The more I think about it the more I like the leftfield Arteta idea. It’d be such a breath of fresh air after a period of increasing staleness and internal strife.

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Rodgers is quite appropriately derided for being a colossal and massive bell end who spouts vast amounts of utter shite after games, especially those when his teams have lost or played badly.

 

He makes Roberto Martinez look succinct and to the point.

 

 

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Sunday made for very painful watching and I'm not even an Arsenal fan. Always had a soft spot for them though ever since they started to derail United.

 

You basically need Poch 2.0. Someone who can come in and put a stamp on the players he has, pull them together and impose a real playing style onto the team he already has, filling in the gaps where needed. As starting elevens go, Arsenals is still up there, its the lack of real leadership (how many years have people being saying this..), and now the lack of energy and tenacity which has seen them fall behind the likes of, Liverpool, Spurs, City have just made Wengers look ancient.
 

Its a shame Marco Silva fucked up his Watford tenure so badly, because he was looking the closest thing to a Poch style manager and could have been very interesting. Doing a patch up job with an Ancolloti type would be massively uninspiring, its all about getting someone in to do the long term plan with good short term goals to keep the fans on side, thankfully Wenger is setting the bar so low (So he is doing something right), that if someone comes in next seasons and gets into the top 4 with some big improvement on the pitch then it will seen as a success! Wenger needs to go in the summer now, he should have went many summers ago but now its just fucking painful.

 

Given how Arsenal are structured, I imagine Wenger will be choosing him successor, so I'm not holding out to much hope!

 

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Really? I seriously doubt that'd be true of a team that was actually exhibiting some aggression, determination or really anything else you might expect from a top 6 side. Man City are good but they're also putting in twice the effort. 3-0 up and there were still two different City players throwing themselves in front of Ramsey's shot earlier.

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Gotta feel for you guys here. Though I think these displays and the all but certain fact that you're finishing out of the top 4/5, Wenger must hang it up at the end of this season. 

 

Perhaps a Europa success would be a nice way to say goodbye..

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40 minutes ago, Seanfl9 said:

 

Perhaps a Europa success would be a nice way to say goodbye..

 

It would be great, but a) we’re terrible and have next to no chance of winning it, and b) we all said the same about each of the 3 FA Cups but he just used them as justification for staying on so he’d no doubt do the same again.

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The best option would be Antonio Conte. I’m sure he’d love to stick it to the Chelsea board. It just depends if Arsenal board are willing to match his ambition. I doubt it, but honestly there wouldn’t be anyone better available. Obviously he has issues this season especially behind the scenes. Chelsea are just a strange club. Mourinho and Ancelotti had it too. I don’t think he’s impressed with the signings this season. 

 

To be fair even if Wenger goes there’s a big lack of quality in your squad. You need a new GK, CB, CDM and wingers. Welbeck as a winger isn’t really inspiring is it. Mustafi is a wreck. Ramsey in a midfield two runs too far forward. Xhaka is too slow. 

 

All you been doing in the last few years is making scatter gun signings with no real long term planning. Just seems strange that there are no youngsters coming through to get excited about. 

 

The worst thing is a lot of these forward players the shackles are off. They not been asked to track back constantly. Tonight your fullbacks were left isolated. 

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9 hours ago, Shevchenko said:

The best option would be Antonio Conte. I’m sure he’d love to stick it to the Chelsea board. It just depends if Arsenal board are willing to match his ambition. I doubt it, but honestly there wouldn’t be anyone better available. Obviously he has issues this season especially behind the scenes. Chelsea are just a strange club. Mourinho and Ancelotti had it too. I don’t think he’s impressed with the signings this season. 

 

To be fair even if Wenger goes there’s a big lack of quality in your squad. You need a new GK, CB, CDM and wingers. Welbeck as a winger isn’t really inspiring is it. Mustafi is a wreck. Ramsey in a midfield two runs too far forward. Xhaka is too slow. 

 

All you been doing in the last few years is making scatter gun signings with no real long term planning. Just seems strange that there are no youngsters coming through to get excited about. 

 

The worst thing is a lot of these forward players the shackles are off. They not been asked to track back constantly. Tonight your fullbacks were left isolated. 

 

Conte probably wants the Italy job doesn’t he? Can’t see that happening but I certainly wouldn’t be adverse to it. I think Jardim is the most likely as Löw and Arteta are surely too big a risk at the moment.

 

I’d like to see Mustafi, Xhaka etc under a manager with a coherent system before writing them off entirely, but there’s a good chance they’re just duds. We certainly need a new GK, probably 2 CBs, and a winger. And that’s without even getting into the fact that Wilshere and Ramsey could both very feasibly leave in the summer. The age profile of the squad is absolutely horrible too; in theory these players should be peaking now but look at the dross they’re churning out under this manager.

 

As for youngsters, Cole and Wilshere are the only two youth system products who have had any significant impact at the club in 20 years, so it’s not like we’ve ever had much of a production line on that front (though nor do most other big clubs either tbf).

 

Regarding tracking from wide players, Bellerin gets constant pelters from loads of people but he’s basically asked to cover the right flank on his own, game after game. There isn’t another fullback in the division with his workload, so it’s no wonder he struggles sometimes. That being said it would still be nice if he could put in an ok cross once in a blue moon. 

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On 27/02/2018 at 22:38, The Fox said:

Non-starter I’d imagine because he fell out with Mislintat badly at BVB and now he’s at Arsenal.

 

Good planning Arsenal. :facepalm: 

 

It doesn't seem like that relationship can be mended. I'd still go for Tuchel and let go of Mislintat. That sounds like nonsense. I suppose people will say he'll have a bigger long term impact and that Tuchel might only last a few years. Just feels like with Pochettino, Tuchel will eventually land at a club and do great things. Who knows if the Chelsea method of hiring and firing would work for Arsenal, it's just always seemed a job for a younger manager who can think long term and radically alter the structure, as opposed to someone just passing though. Which Conte would be...I thought he was certain for a job in Italy, one of the Milan clubs, rather than returning to the national side. 

 

Don't get the interest in Löw, Germany played brilliantly in the 2010 world cup but have been boring since. 'He won a world cup!' But someone has to? Seems a bit much for Arteta if he's only been assistant coach for a few years rather than head coach for a youth team/reserves. It would be the same expertise as Giggs? 

 

Thought Jardem was older than his 43 years..seems most likely. I wonder how he'll begin though, if he was defensive for two years at Monaco as part of a planned process to develop his side to the point they could play open and expansive football. 

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22 minutes ago, Loik V credern said:

Don't get the interest in Löw, Germany played brilliantly in the 2010 world cup but have been boring since. 'He won a world cup!' But someone has to? Seems a bit much for Arteta if he's only been assistant coach for a few years rather than head coach for a youth team/reserves. It would be the same expertise as Giggs? 

 

Thought Jardem was older than his 43 years..seems most likely. I wonder how he'll begin though, if he was defensive for two years at Monaco as part of a planned process to develop his side to the point they could play open and expansive football. 

 

The main problem with Löw is that he has no experience whatsoever of managing a big club, and no club football experience at all for 14 years.

 

Arteta would have similar expertise to Giggs, but I think it's fair to say he seems a lot more intelligent. He was always our smartest player in terms of tactical and positional awareness and I think he'd be able to get instant respect from the players too. Whether or not he'd be a good manager or not I have no idea of course. It's even more of a risk than Löw but personally I find it a lot more appealing, I guess because I don't really rate Löw that highly anyway so may as well take a punt on a promising unknown quantity.

 

Jardim seems the sensible choice though. When Monaco knocked us out of the CL in that year everyone finally thought we'd get past the last 16, they were really defensively solid and capitalised on errors from us. Fast forward a little and as you say, that league-winning team played some really lovely stuff with Lemar, Bernardo, Falcao & Mbappe.

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6 hours ago, The Fox said:

 

Conte probably wants the Italy job doesn’t he? Can’t see that happening but I certainly wouldn’t be adverse to it. I think Jardim is the most likely as Löw and Arteta are surely too big a risk at the moment.

 

I’d like to see Mustafi, Xhaka etc under a manager with a coherent system before writing them off entirely, but there’s a good chance they’re just duds. We certainly need a new GK, probably 2 CBs, and a winger. And that’s without even getting into the fact that Wilshere and Ramsey could both very feasibly leave in the summer. The age profile of the squad is absolutely horrible too; in theory these players should be peaking now but look at the dross they’re churning out under this manager.

 

As for youngsters, Cole and Wilshere are the only two youth system products who have had any significant impact at the club in 20 years, so it’s not like we’ve ever had much of a production line on that front (though nor do most other big clubs either tbf).

 

Regarding tracking from wide players, Bellerin gets constant pelters from loads of people but he’s basically asked to cover the right flank on his own, game after game. There isn’t another fullback in the division with his workload, so it’s no wonder he struggles sometimes. That being said it would still be nice if he could put in an ok cross once in a blue moon. 

 

I was more referring to the young gems Wenger used to unearth. He doesn’t even do that anymore. 

 

Wenger still has a place in football. Wouldn’t surprise me if France come knocking for him and that would be the perfect job.

 

Its just gotten stale for both him and Arsenal fans.

 

But he has to be given credit for the first 10 years or so. Not just the title wins. Not many managers would have kept you competitive and get you champions league football with the budget he had when you moved stadium. Even teams like Villa were outspending you massively. I just don’t like how not just Arsenal fans but other fans are trying to belittle his achievements. He transformed English football and deserves credit for that.

 

But he also should have not let it get to this stage. He had perfect chance in 2014 and last year to just walk out on a high. 

 

Over the the last few years everything he has done is totally not like him. Making signings for the sake of it. Playing 5 at the back for the first time in his managerial career. Arsenal a few years ago used to be possession based team. But now you don’t even know what style of play they have. 

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26 minutes ago, Silent Runner said:

Can Brighton score more against Arsenal than Manchester City? Stay tuned to find out.

 

Hoping for a third 3 nil defeat in a week. You can't do betting accumulators over different gameweeks can you ? 

 

Obviously I don't know the score

Obviously if arsenal have already scored it ruins the whole post

how do you delete posts

I could change it entirely I guess

16 minutes too slow...not as bad as I expected

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