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Mourinho has let a few decent players go who have gone on to prove him wrong. (De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku (Well he was wrong when he was doing well for Everton, now he might be right though and he may not be a top tier club striker :lol:)

 

Hopefully Mkhitaryan proves him wrong, because Mourinho seems to have been particularly harsh (A massive bell-end) with him.  

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Steve007

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Allegedly he's going to get £200k a week (£60k increase from his £140k a week United wage).  If we are going to give him that sort of money & then offer Ozil a dogshit final offer contract which he turns down I think I am going to give up with football as it's just getting ludicrous.

 

I doubt we will keep Ozil anyway.  Even if we offer him £300k a week, we won't be able to match the additional £5-6m+ a season payment for 3-4 years he would easily be able to negotiate as a free agent.

 

Depending on who I listen to, Ozil is also going to United.  There's only a handful of other clubs who can afford him & they are are not interested.  I could accept losing Sanchez if we tried to retain Ozil, but to lose them both would be a disaster.  To lose them both to one of our rivals is a sickening thought.

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I know you guys are pissed off with the whole situation, but you are getting a really good player. Mkhitaryan was dicked around by Mourinho but for the latter half of last season he was outstanding. There's a suspicion that his disappearance from the team and sale had more to do with Jose's ego than Mkhi's quality, as it stemmed from Mkhi daring to question Mourinho's criticism of him.

 

I genuinely hope he's amazing for you.

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11 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

I know you guys are pissed off with the whole situation, but you are getting a really good player.

 

He was a half-decent player for Dortmund and a total flop at United. I hope the signing works out for us as I do with every player we get but I genuinely have never felt so deflated about an Arsenal signing.  Except when we signed Chris Kiwomya, obviously. 

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Trigg

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United fan here.

 

Mkhitaryan is a gifted footballer but he came with questions about self belief, something he had problems with in his early career at Dortmund people said. I certainly think it played a part because while we did see flashes of brilliance from him, it was never with any consistency annoyingly. 

 

I don't think Jose could get the best out of him for whatever reason but Mkhitaryan wasn't dropped because of him questioning Jose and his criticism, he was dropped because Jesse Lingard fulfilled the role that Mkhitaryan couldn't.

 

I wish him all the best though.

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48 minutes ago, Steve007 said:

 

He was a half-decent player for Dortmund and a total flop at United. I hope the signing works out for us as I do with every player we get but I genuinely have never felt so deflated about an Arsenal signing.  Except when we signed Chris Kiwomya, obviously. 

 

I daresay I saw more of him at United than you did, and he wasn't a total flop at all. He played a big part in the Europa League win, for example, and shouldered the burden of being our only creative player for large periods of last season. He was the one guy who always looked like making something happen when he picked up the ball. This season he started well but his form has dropped off. It's true that when he's bad, he's really really bad. If he can rediscover the form of last season though, I think you'll be delighted with him. You all seem determined not to give him a chance though.

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12 hours ago, Silent Runner said:

I'm beginning to think Iwobi isn't very good. 

 

He's just very ordinary & gives the ball away too often.  If we are going for a rebuilding job this summer then I'd either get rid of him or loan him out so he can get some games under his belt as we can't afford to keep carrying him.  Maybe with some experience he will become a better footballer, but unfortunately I don't think he's got a long term future at Arsenal.  You tend to know right away if a player has 'got it' or not and he definitely hasn't.

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Jonathan_Kerr

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Re Iwobi, I think the World Cup will be important for his development. Some players go to the cup and play a blinder and it moves their career up a gear (remember James from Columbia?). Iwobi is still young. Just when I think he’ll never be good enough, he surprises me. At 21 he is a back up to Özil and he’ll learn a lot from him.

 

I can’t work out if he’s fast or slow when he runs, though. He looks like he should be super quick, but not sure if he is. People seem to get round him a lot.

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wev

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There was talk about him being part of the deal for Aubemeyang as that deal is tied to them needing a replacement first? Didnt his wife block his move to Everton as she didnt want to move away from London? But yeah, dont want the ridiculously handsome bastard to leave

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I've always thought Giroud is greatly under rated, he scores enough goals to warrant at least a bench place for a very highly placed team (if not a starting place, amazes me crap like Welbeck is chosen to start ahead of him) and more importantly makes everybody around him look better. He's not a classic knock down big striker but very skilful with a great touch and good vision.

 

With that in mind it sounds nuts to sell him to a rival who desperately need such a thing, whatever the price, its even more stupid to do it for £15m, even if he is 31y old. 

 

Chelsea refused to sell as Djemba Ba a few years back as decided they didn't want to strengthen a rival - about time we started thinking a bit smart too.

 

If they wanted Welbeck I'd take a tenner and bag of dry roasted peanuts. 

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Yeah I'd rather it was Wellbeck, but with his fitness record it's unlikely to happen, apparently they're loaning a player to Dortmund which in turn frees Aubemeyang up so if Arsenal play hard ball with Giroud going to Chelsea they could then block this other loan move, not that they couldn't do that anyway.

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