Arsenal

[Gotters]

Immobile actually got a lucky miscontrol oh his own shin thst threw Kos i think, without that he was showing him away from goal i suspect

[Lucky]

I'm really trying to convince myself that Welbeck will turn out to be a great success, and trying to forget how horrified I was when we were first linked with him, but I've got to say he's really not helping me.

[Gotters]

I'm really trying to convince myself that Welbeck will turn out to be a great success, and trying to forget how horrified I was when we were first linked with him, but I've got to say he's really not helping me.

Save yourself the time, he's shit

[Dude Ranch]

There was a reason they let him go and he was cheap, he's never been clinical and we had 2 great examples in his first 2 games. Strikers who take those chances more often cost a lot more than him and don't get released very often.

Chelsea get Costa, United get Falcao, Liverpool get Balotelli and we get a cast off. Harsh but true.

[pinholestar]

We'll have done well if we don't lose by at least three tonight at this rate. Pretty shit performance so far.

[Jonathan_Kerr]

Went to the toilet - boom, Dortmund goal.

(The boom bit was the goal, not my toilet activity)

To let in a goal like before HT was poor. We have many players out there having a bad night for us to win this tonight.

[Lucky]

Like Gotters said, the difference between a £16m Welbeck and a £32m Costa is worlds apart.

I don't want to go on about Welbeck because everyone has been shit, apart from Szczesny, but we could have actually nicked a goal even though we've played so bad.

[toythatkills]

Welbeck is the worst player ever because he missed two good chances.

Okay guys.

[Lucky]

No one has said the worst ever. We haven't forgotten about Sanogo that easily.

[Gotters]

Is bake off on tonight, thinking i may turn over

[The Fox]

Welbeck is a good player, potentially very good, but his finishing is a clear weak point.

Ramsey struggles with pressing, his first touch isn't the greatest, especially tonight. He needs to step it up because I really can't recall the last time he was good in a big game, even last season.

[Lucky]

If you're a striker and finishing is your weak point you're gonna struggle really aren't you

[SeanR]

is there no way back from 2 down then?

[gooner4life]

Ramsey and Arteta are the weak point in the team, we cant hold possession because both of them have been poor in possession, Arteta can only pass backwards these days, and he doesn't have the legs to mop up, and Ramsey hasn't been able to pass water for weeks, much less a football, terrible really.

[The Fox]

Would imagine Arteta, Ramsey and Wilshere are all at sub-60% pass completion.

[The Fox]

If you're a striker and finishing is your weak point you're gonna struggle really aren't you

Depends. That's pretty simplistic. It's something that can be improved. You have Falcao or Van Nistelrooy types at one end who offer goals and fuck all else, but it's not the be all and end all if goals can come from elsewhere. I'm sure he'll come good.

Never a yellow for Özil there ffs

[carlito]

Relentless...

[The Fox]

My posting or Dortmund's attacking?

[carlito]

Dortmund.

Post away.

[Lucky]

Someone mind explaining what Welbeck did with that chance

[The Fox]

Right subs there. Could have withdrawn any of Özil, Welbeck or Alexis but the latter two are more likely to produce a goal I guess. Ramsey had to go though, hopeless from him again sadly.

[carlito]

Bellerin's haircut appears to be putting off a lot of our players as they try to remember the name of the guy from Boy Meets World he stole it from.

[Lucky]

Wow

[Silent Runner]

Artetta, fucking hell.

[Shoes]

This is unreal.

[Dude Ranch]

You have to take the rough with the smooth and if nothing else this has been utterly fascinating in terms of witnessing eleven men all performing with utter incompetence at the same time. Fair play, they're showing amazing consistency and togetherness out there. Also, the managers are accurately reflected in the respective performances tonight. Passive and out of touch vs energetic and full of character.

[Lucky]

Good skill but there's that all important quality, or lack of, any good striker needs. The ability to finish.

[Silent Runner]

Oh Danny boy.

But in fairness he's getting into the positions and making his chances.

[Rev]

#secondinthegroup

#barcelonainthenextround

#concentratingontheleague

#fourth

[Lucky]

#nextround?