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Well if that's how it transpires then fair enough. He's a class player who will now certainly score against us in a couple of weeks, but I can see why Arsene wouldn't want him on loan with no purchase option.

Koscielny is out versus Stoke btw.

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I don't see us signing M'Vila. I agree with The Fox in the sense that if Wenger was happy to sell Song due to him having a bad influence, M'Vila is highly unlikely to be any different. Also, we'd probably have done it by now. No idea what he's got up his sleeve though.

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It was a gutter. As much as I felt and still feel for Ramsey, and for it to have happened again, I think the Eduardo injury was massively sickening for me. Not sure why. Felt like the last person I'd have wished it on. When he scored coming back it was so wonderful and I would have loved him to go on and do what we thought he always could have. I still think he's the best finisher I've ever seen at Arsenal. Qual-it-EEE. Not forgetting Gilberto getting there to help at the scene. I still miss Gilberto, he went too early. Reliable, honest, no agenda.

Would I have Eduardo back, hypothetically? Hmm.. Unfinished business? :wub:

As an outsider, that was just as sickening. I was watching the game live and had to turn it off, once it became clear what had happened. I remember the David Busst injury which was similar, where there was a player throwing-up at what he'd seen. And they had to clean-up blood from the pitch before the game could continue. Horrible. Busst didn't play again, so Eduardo was lucky - but he never looked the same afterwards.

After a slowish start, Eduardo only just seemed to have found his feet in the Premier League, and Arsenal were either top or very close before that match. Was that the game where there was a very late equaliser and Gallas had his breakdown? I'm sure Arsenal would have gone on to win the league that season if it hadn't been for that injury.

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Navas? :eyebrows:

Pinched from Twitter: "Chelsea have signed Moses, Arsenal are after Jesus, and Man Utd have Judas"

As an outsider, that was just as sickening. I was watching the game live and had to turn it off, once it became clear what had happened. I remember the David Busst injury which was similar, where there was a player throwing-up at what he'd seen. And they had to clean-up blood from the pitch before the game could continue. Horrible. Busst didn't play again, so Eduardo was lucky - but he never looked the same afterwards.

After a slowish start, Eduardo only just seemed to have found his feet in the Premier League, and Arsenal were either top or very close before that match. Was that the game where there was a very late equaliser and Gallas had his breakdown? I'm sure Arsenal would have gone on to win the league that season if it hadn't been for that injury.

Yeah that was the same match. We probably still could have gone on to win the league, but a certain Mr Van Persie was going through one of his perpetually crocked phases, and wasn't able to step in for Eduardo.

The problem for Dudu, like a lot of players who are out for that long, was all the muscle injuries he got when he came back. Like Diaby, who also suffered a similar injury, he was constantly picking up niggly injuries. That, plus the switch to 4-3-3 during his absence, plus the disgraceful hounding of him over the dive versus Celtic, all combined to result in a necessity for a change of scene.

I do think if poor old Dave Busst had hurt himself ten years later, with all the advances in medical tech, he'd probably have been ok. He didn't even have any of the complications of injuring his ankle joint like Eduardo did.

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If what we are reading is true about the Sahin terms (we weren't prepared to pay his £120,000 per week wages, weren't prepared to pay a loan fee of £5million & weren't prepared to agree to the loan without a permanent deal being in place once the loan is finished in a year) it is disappointing but I agree with AW.

I think we'll now go back to our original target, M'Villa, if again what we hear is true that a deal was agreed a while ago but AW was put off after it emerged he's a bit of a mentalist.

It seems his club have agreed/accepted he will leave & it seems he wants to play for us so if the figures can be agreed I can definitely see him coming.

If this does happen I'll be happier than a loan deal where the player goes back to Real in a year after it's cost us around £10million for the season, or Real then decide they now want £25million for him.

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I previously asked in this thread if it mattered whether or not we could buy him at the end of the season, but I hadn't thought it through. Paying in excess of £7m for a player who we have to give back in twelve months' time isn't a good use of our resources.

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Giving them back a vastly improved player/one that has had a great season would be shit but, imagine he has a storming season, we have no fee agreed, Madrid decide they want £25m and he ends up at City or Chelsea. We would look foolish.

I trust Arsene.

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City AND Chelsea? Would it be like having the kids at weekends when you're separated?

Yes. City for league games. Chelsea for Europe. Also i've edited it so I don't know what you're talking about. ;)

Then again if he scores the winner next week, Liverpool finish 4th and we end up fifth, is it a good deal?

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I'm inclined to agree that it's the right decision. He's good, but he's not in the same mould as Song so he'd be cover for Arteta.

I'm a bit worried about any reliance on Frimpong though. His injuries should be at least as concerning as Wilshere's for him coming back well. I'd be quite happy to see us make a Jenkinson-style signing (cheap, potential, etc.) to give us a bit more cover and that's it though.

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Let us hide our bitterness and resentment at missing out on another player with some facts, straight from the Twitter shit churning machine.

Liverpool are paying £5mil up front to loan Nuri Sahin for a year with no option to buy. Real signed him on a 5-year-deal for £7.9mil. Wow.

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It's more or less word for word what happened with Joe Cole. Arsenal (and Spurs, was it?) both make entirely reasonable offers, both very much in the same ball park and then Liverpool swing in with WE'LL GIVE YOU MILLIONS FOR A BILLION YEARS.

I'm sure Sahin will work better for them.

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It seems he would prefer Arsenal, so if Liverpool want a player wo doesn't totally want to be there and he'll go somewhere he doesn't totally want to go then good on AW for sticking to his guns and not agreeing to anything.

(as long as he goes and buys someone else that is)

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