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Daley

Daley

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Ho. ly. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Barca put together a presentation video for Alex Song and he chose the song to go with it. 10 bonus points to whoever can guess the song. No cheating on Twitter.

Clue: If you thought he was being greedy, this will blow your mind.

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toythatkills

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Do we really need the option to buy though? I mean sure, it'd be nice, and I'd prefer it if we weren't being used as a finishing school, but ultimately even without a purchase option it still seems beneficial to all parties. I think if there weren't big question marks over the fitness of Diaby and Wilshere, we wouldn't be looking at him at all.

Presumably the option to buy comes with a price attached. So if he has an amazing season in England and they want £30m for him, we could get him for £15m as per the terms of the loan deal, or something.

It seems silly to take him for a season knowing that we'd be priced out of actually making the move permanent, so it'd make more sense to just buy someone who we know will be long-term and can build from if this deal can't be reached.

No matter how dreamy he is, etc.

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Dude Ranch

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It seems silly to take him for a season knowing that we'd be priced out of actually making the move permanent, so it'd make more sense to just buy someone who we know will be long-term and can build from if this deal can't be reached.

Unless he sees it as purely a temporary move to help ease Wilshere back in this season. We would have a lot of CMs if this was a permanent deal.

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hercules

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We need alot of CM's as they are always injured! Arteta plays really well infrint of the back four putting out fires, so maybe wenger is thinking of sahib to do they same along side him aswell as diaby (when fit) and not having a big bullish midfielder?

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Rocafella

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It makes sense to have an option to buy. No point in loaning a player for the first 11, because then those on the bench will be unhappy and may look to leave at the end of the season, while the guy you loaned goes back to his home club.

No surprise Mourinho looks to be sticking his oar in. He doesn't like Wenger, while he wants to help out his mate Rodgers. Fortunately Sahin doesn't look like he wants to know from Liverpool, so hopefully we'll win this one.

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The Fox

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Fellaini isn't what people would traditionally call a "midfield enforcer". He was virtually playing up front last night, and certainly doesn't patrol in front of the back four. He is of course big and strong and can tackle, but I don't think he's mobile or technically proficient enough for the way we play.

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JDubYes

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I actually wouldn't have minded if we'd attempted/managed to get Nigel de Jong for a decent price from Man City. His reputation took a bit of a battering when he decided to crane kick Alonso in the World Cup Final, but he's only ever actually been red-carded once, and is a genuinely decent footballer, still only in his twenties, already proven in the Premiership, and very good at what he does. Wages might've been an issue (though I think he wasn't on the same level as many of his peers at City), but it actually made a lot of sense. To me, at least.

I would like us to get Sahin though. There are a fair few teams without an "enforcer" now, and it's something that can be worked around, particularly if you're not giving the ball away too often and the whole team is then tasked with (and competent at) getting it back and keeping it again. Any team featuring Cazorla, Sahin, Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Ramsey, Diaby, and even Coquelin and Frimpong should be perfectly capable of that, in my eyes.

M'Vila I do like the idea of, perhaps even more than Sahin in terms of the balance he could provide, but I'm wary due to the reports I keep hearing about his off-field behaviour. I don't know what he keeps (allegedly) being arrested for, but isn't it supposed tio have been three times in a year or so now? Hmm. From what I've seen of him, on the pitch he could be a more efficent/less wasteful box-to-box or defensive midfielder than Song was, and for the same price we just sold him to Barcelona for, but I doubt Wenger will (still) be interested if the rumours about his behaviour really are true.

Oh, and is anyone else (not particularly) secretly hoping that maybe Wenger will just go "oh bugger it, why not" and go in for Llorente, especially if we bring in Sahin on loan instead of M'Vila (or both), bearing in mind the fees that are being banded around for both? I know it's incredibly unlikely, especially if the wage bill doesn't get trimmed further, and bearing in mind that Podolski seems likely to be played more central than many of us expected, but I do love the idea of getting him and Cazorla in one summer for less than Liverpool paid for Carroll.

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BlinkyBear

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Quick one: Llorente's agent has said that there's two bids for him, one from Manchester and one from London. It'll be City and Spuds. I'd like him for sure, but I really don't think that Wenger is after a striker at all.

As for the midfield; I'm a BIG fan of Sahin and as much as I think he'd improve our squad and potentially our first 11, I think Coquelin is one of the most skilful, composed and exciting 'kids' we've had come through in years and whilst I don't think we'll be playing a midfield enforcer (more likely 2 deeper lying midfielders) both him and Frimpong should be given the chance to come into the first team to show what they're (potentially) capable of.

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Petrousgyre

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De Jong is a midfield reducer in the most literal sense of the word, but a lousy footballer IMO - not what Arsenal need. Not sure about Llorente either - again not the sort of player to fit into our style of play and apparently quite divisive in the dressing room. Too expensive as well.

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hauk

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I would prefer that we signed a slightly more defensive player like M'villa, but it does seem the trend now to not even have a defensive midfielder in the team. I'm hoping Sahin can come in and be like Flamini was a few years back.

Was funny to see Man United lose last night. No Man U in crisis headlines this morning though I noticed. Most of their reasonable fans seem to think they are slightly lacking in midfield, something which the press seems uninterested in.

I really hope the team can gel this year. Much better squad than last year already and no noticeable prats or slackers in the team as yet. Even though Nasri was pretty good for half a season and Song was very good in some of the big games, they always seemed like they had attitude issues. Hoping Jack and Chamberlain can really do the business this year.

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Art Vandelay

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I think a striker is a more pressing issue than another midfielder to be honest. We've got about 12 identical players for three starting positions and only two proper strikers, one of whom might as well not exist. Chamakh out, someone decent in. Sahin is just an opportunity too good to miss I reckon. That and I think that we're incredibly worried about Wilshere. I think the plan is to give Coquelin a bash rather than buy this fabled bruiser.

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Daley

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Fresh from the Twitter rumour mill:

Sahin hold-up is definiely because of buy option. Real Madrid want £14m clause put in. Arsenal haggling.

Bit fucking cheeky of them if this is true.

£8m His transfer fee from Dortmund to Real Madrid in May 2011.

Unless his contract was nearly up.

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Fellaini isn't what people would traditionally call a "midfield enforcer". He was virtually playing up front last night, and certainly doesn't patrol in front of the back four. He is of course big and strong and can tackle, though.

I didn't mean that, I meant United were the ones playing without an enforcer and subsequently getting bummed. Would you fancy Sahin and Arteta's chances against the marauding morrocan mop? He isn't the only burly attacking midfielder in the league either - Yaya Toure for instance. And plenty of teams have target men who can drop deep and fulfil a similar role. Delicate ballplayers with good positional sense are fine for defending against nimble dribblers but deploy a battering ram against them and things get a little different.

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Fresh from the Twitter rumour mill:

Bit fucking cheeky of them if this is true.

Unless his contract was nearly up.

He had a €10m (so £8m, ish) buy-out clause in his contract. Dortmund tried to panic remove it, but as soon as Real were sniffing that was never going to happen. It was incredibly cheap and he was (and still is) worth more than that.

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