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One of the problems they always seem to have with CGI humans is depicting weight. Look at the scenes at the end of the Bronto stampede - Jamie Bell floating over the collapsing ground. Unfortunately his feet are where your eyes are focused, because that's where the action is. It's all minor quibbles certainly, but it does go to show that there's quite a way to go yet.

True. Human's are still a problem - although it's come a long way since the Legolas/Cave troll stuff.

I was amazed the scenes between Kong and the V Rex's though. While not quite perfectly photorealistic so to speak, the animation and sense of weight & motion was spot on. So ferocious and brutal.

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Here we go then. I found this review on the net and it sums up my feelings nicely. (followed by a load of anally retentive bollocks)

if you're too inarticulate to put down your own opinions then at least have the courtesy of quoting your sources.

some people need to accept this movie for what it is, because at the end of the day it's not Ingmar fucking Bergman.

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I'm just back from seeing it. Absolutely fantastic. I think everyone has covered just why it is fantastic already, so I'll talk about the audience I was with and their reaction.

It was a mixed audience. Students, chavs, parents and small kids, etc. But it was the best behaved audience ever. It's amazing how quiet they were. No phones. No kids running around. No talking that I could hear.

Even for the first Kong-less hour (which some claim was boring), the kids remained quiet.

It was a little strange when the Intermission came. For a few moments, there was just absolute silence and nobody moved. I think everyone was stunned.

The movie was a bit more violent and scary than I was expecting too, especially with a PG rating. There were times I was a bit surprised it got away with a PG cert.

Can't wait for the DVD.

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No, they created a fair few shops and stuff, as well lots of interiors.  But I've read there are about 90.000 virtual buildings, including the Empire State Building. They never shot on sea either. WETA also created 200 creatures. Less than 20 were used in the actual movie.

The production diaries deal with this stuff in detail. It's a good watch.

Speaking of which...

The final one...

So are they releasing a box set with these on ala the LOTR ones?

...don't beard me!

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if you're too inarticulate to put down your own opinions then at least have the courtesy of quoting your sources.

some people need to accept this movie for what it is, because at the end of the day it's not Ingmar fucking Bergman.

I'm not too inarticulate thanks, just can't see the point in typing it out when someone else has pretty much said the same thing.

I don't have to do anything, I'll quote my sources if I want. I never tried to pass it off as my own work.

Youu're right, it's not Ingmar Bergman, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be good.

And you sound like a right patronising cock in your post. Thanks for that. Because I didn't like a film you're so precious about.

Lovely.

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Thought the dinosaur stampede sequence was too long and ridiculous in the fact that they managed to stay running along without getting stomped. Also that huge pile up at the end was just silly. Also thought the T-Rex scrap was brilliant but went on again too long. It just tried to keep topping itself again and again and eventually became a joke. Kong was brilliantly realised and you feel real empathy for him and Ann.

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Yep, it's a 12A. There wasn't anything there that made me think 'this should be a 15' at all.

One thing I didn't like about the movie was the juttery slow-motion. Why would a director still use that? Smooth, fluid slow motion (as seen in the bit where Kong is falling down the building) makes normal shots look amazing. Shuddery juddery jittery stop motion makes normal shots look awful.

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I'm not too inarticulate thanks, just can't see the point in typing it out when someone else has pretty much said the same thing.

I don't have to do anything, I'll quote my sources if I want. I never tried to pass it off as my own work.

Youu're right, it's not Ingmar Bergman, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be good.

And you sound like a right patronising cock in your post. Thanks for that. Because I didn't like a film you're so precious about.

Lovely.

well that's my whole point. i'm not precious about it.

did you ask the permission of your source before quoting them without credit?

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Well i just got back from seeing it with some mates.

first thing - this was the worst time i have ever gone to a movie and had a bunch of chavs talking all the way through it. I really felt like smashing their head in, they were talking shit all the way through it and were right behind us. There was another bunch of younger kids in the corner speaking about half of the film too.

Anyway onto the film - I do agree the first hour was a bit long. It needed a bit of cutting but at the end of the day it didnt harm the film and you really got to know the characters.

Some of the CGI wasnt perfect but really didnt bother me at all. I loved most of the fights and the stampede bit was pretty good even if it was hard to believe that they wouldnt all get stomped on.

Had a few tears in my eye at the end of the film. What made it worse was a kid infront of me saying to his dad "dad, whats wrong with him...why isnt he moving" and the dad saying he is dead and the kid crying his eyes out.

Lots of applause was given at the end of the film too!!

Really enjoyed it.

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just back from it... great film. This is what we pay money to see. It had everything, excitment, drama, heart... spot on.

The end was great, you knew he was doomed, but you couldn't help rooting for Kong and really feeling for him as he beat his chest at the oncoming planes.

Liked the way they replicated the ending of the first film as well, wasn't expecting that.

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Just got back from seeing it.

Not sure what to think actually. Some bits were amazing (mostly the stuff with Kong in it). As a whole though, I wasn't as blown-away as I expected. Kong himself is really awesome, especially the mid-shots and close-ups. The CGI is pretty much perfect. The emotion that Serkis and Weta get across, especially in Kong's face and eyes is fantastic.

The dinosaurs are better than I thought considering the trailers, but still not up to Jurassic Park standards. Their look is good, but I think that Spielberg is a better action director (or at least Phil Tippett is).

NY is well realised at the start and at the end, with the views around the Empire State Building looking very impressive.

I'd give it an 8/10 overall.

CJ

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sure.. some of the CG was a bit ropey. probably under pressure to get the film out in time.. but.. the heart is fantastic. Rarely do we get films with such scope, imagination and feeling. On a purely techincal level, there's a few dodgy bits but Kong is completely convincing.

Watching Kong sitting on top of the empire state building, watching the sunset, thinking he's safe with Ann... while you know what's just about to happen... that was a real "movie moment". Film of the year without a doubt, and I haven't enjoyed a movie at the cinema as much since Return of the King. I'm spotting a pattern here...

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is the original 1933 film anything like this? besides the end obviously.

Might have to watch it.. dont think ive even seen it - i only remember the empire state building bit.

The remake is hugely similar to the original, the same plot, story and set pieces are often identical. There are loads of lines from the original movie aswell. The main difference is that Ann Darrow in the original wasn't keen on Kong and was more than happy to get away.

There is even some music from the original movie in there when Kong is put on display in New York. The 'natives' who dance around him are dressed as the natives doing the 'Kong dance' from the original.

When they are doing some of the filming on the ship, the lines that are being filmed are straight from the original.... I could go on.

I thought it was an absolutely superb film. Kudos to Peter Jackson for making a remake that stands up as well as the original classic.

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The spider pit sequence is the only thing that is really new in this version, isn't it? IIRC, they did want it in the original but couldn't do it for budget or time reasons or something like that. It also seems to be what scared the kids (and some adults) most in the new version ;)

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