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Plissken

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Aren't endemol meant to thoroughly investigate each contestant for pshcyological problems/weaknesses.

Yeah right. That went out of the window last year. They deliberately put people in there who would hate each other, then wound them up, threw the gameshow aspect out of the window and went "oh gosh" when the fighting broke out.

Endemol don't give a flying fuck. If Eugene kills somebody, think of the ratings man!

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stellar12

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Dude, an egg is the size of a period and it is DIGGING INTO SOMETHING THAT CAUSES PAIN EVEN WHEN IT FLEXES ITSELF, is it really that hard for you to understand that it is going to hurt?

The placenta is where the egg has actually DUG IN to the uterine wall, its not like they are just stuck together with some sticky tape, it is actually attached so of course you are going to FEEL it attach itself. Just because you've never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Get it?

I'm sorry - but I've had a pretty extensive conversation with my Mrs about her pregnancy (you're right - us men have "no idea" - so my Mrs is the next best thing, right?) and ignored a lot of what I already know about embryo formation to keep an open mind, but I find your story frankly unbelievable - or at least exaggerated to prove a point.

She puts what you say down to the product of a broody, fertile imagination (much like Makosi's i'd imagine, though that remains to be seen) - perhaps awaiting a pregnancy particularly expectedly, misinterpreting late periods or taking random abdomenal pains as signs a baby is due. None of this is new, and you wouldn't be the first - you talk about knowing people feeling the same thing - do you know of any that felt it and didn't concieve? Or that didn't even know they were pregnant? Because one of our best friends is a midwife and has heard of plenty that fall into the latter category. But she's never heard of a telltale embryonic pain within days of sex.

I work in IVF treatment - a sign as distinct as what you say would be a God send to our work and the prospective fertility of hundreds of childless mothers across the world. Lets be clear: you spoke of a distinct pain as the fertilised egg attached itself to the uterine wall. Considering the blastocyst at this stage is less than a tenth of a millimetre in width and the placenta is yet to form for almost 2 months (itself embryonic, complete by month 3) - how does any of this equate to a short sharp pain within 4 days of unprotected sex signalling the expectancy of a child?

My apologies if all this sounds a bit negative and condescending but I have to temper your obvious enthusiasm for contriving this myth with a touch of reality. It pains me that such an interesting debate would be come out the feeble attention seeking of a Big Brother contestant but such is life.

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fragglerock

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Take it to the myths and facts about child birth thread!

OT: surely the housemates must realise that when one of them starts doing something out of character or unreasonably whacky they are on some sort of "secret mission" and should be left to get on with it?

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Festoon

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The placenta is where the egg has actually DUG IN to the uterine wall, its not like they are just stuck together with some sticky tape, it is actually attached so of course you are going to FEEL it attach itself. Just because you've never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Get it?

I'm sorry - but I've had a pretty extensive conversation with my Mrs about her pregnancy (you're right - us men have "no idea" - so my Mrs is the next best thing, right?) and ignored a lot of what I already know about embryo formation to keep an open mind, but I find your story frankly unbelievable - or at least exaggerated to prove a point.

She puts what you say down to the product of a broody, fertile imagination (much like Makosi's i'd imagine, though that remains to be seen) - perhaps awaiting a pregnancy particularly expectedly, misinterpreting late periods or taking random abdomenal pains as signs a baby is due. None of this is new, and you wouldn't be the first - you talk about knowing people feeling the same thing - do you know of any that felt it and didn't concieve? Or that didn't even know they were pregnant? Because one of our best friends is a midwife and has heard of plenty that fall into the latter category. But she's never heard of a telltale embryonic pain within days of sex.

I work in IVF treatment - a sign as distinct as what you say would be a God send to our work and the prospective fertility of hundreds of childless mothers across the world. Lets be clear: you spoke of a distinct pain as the fertilised egg attached itself to the uterine wall. Considering the blastocyst at this stage is less than a tenth of a millimetre in width and the placenta is yet to form for almost 2 months (itself embryonic, complete by month 3) - how does any of this equate to a short sharp pain within 4 days of unprotected sex signalling the expectancy of a child?

My apologies if all this sounds a bit negative and condescending but I have to temper your obvious enthusiasm for contriving this myth with a touch of reality. It pains me that such an interesting debate would be come out the feeble attention seeking of a Big Brother contestant but such is life.

Are you Eugene?

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Festoon

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Take it to the myths and facts about child birth thread!

OT: surely the housemates must realise that when one of them starts doing something out of character or unreasonably whacky they are on some sort of "secret mission" and should be left to get on with it?

You are assuming the application of intelligence.

In fairness to Saskia she did realise during Dereks kissing task.

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11 Herbs 'n' Spices

11 Herbs 'n' Spices

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You are assuming the application of intelligence.

In fairness to Saskia she did realise during Dereks kissing task.

I thought the same thing.

Having done a secret task before Makosi know that if any of the other housemates tqig, the game's up, so it wouldn't take a genuis to figure keeping quiet is the way to go.

But no, she wouldn't be able to draw attention to herself that way would she?

I missed the part of the task instructions. Did Eugene pick Makosi himself or did BB pick her to shadow?

I assumed Eugene picked her, in the hope she would have previous knowledge of secret tasks and kept fucking quiet.

Kemal looked like Mogli The ManCub while he was in the diary room.

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Eugene had to imitate the first person who directly spoke to him.

He also acted so utterly utterly dodgey and answered nonsensically to every question asked (about what BB said when he was in the diary room).

If you can't work out that man was on a secret mission from that kind of display you are.....

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Wickedkitten

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Eugene:

Orla and Kemal lay into him. They both think he does not have enough life experiences to be on the show (they tell each they are great and have done loads of stuff). Oral thought it ridiculous that Eugene would not join in the pool antics and thinks it is pathetic that Eugene was shocked at the sex play. She is disgusted that he is a virgin and thinks he has never had a relationship with a girl.

They talk about the task and she says it “was so easy” (impossible if you ask me!). Kermal tells her that Makosi told him that she thought the prize might be alcohol so she deliberately failed the task to make sure Maxwell got no alcohol. They both agree Eugene was stupid and say what he should have done to pass (total crap they talk). They agree Makosi is very animated and Kemal says: “he would have been able to do Vanessa easy!”, Oral agrees (LOL).

They discuss Eugene’s sensitivity at failing the task (he cried) and scoff at his weakness. They then consider what would bring about the breakdown of Eugene and suggest a shouting to from Science would do it.

Science:

They move on to Science. Kermal says Science is your friend one day then suddenly launches vicious attacks. Kemal tell Orla Science spits at people (never seen that – think it’s a lie). Kemal recalls the water throwing incident (Kemal, the little tw*t bears grudges forever) and decribes it as if he was attacked with an axe. Orla agrees and (she really hates Science the most) and starts making stuff up about what happened in the kitchen when they argued. She says she was only joking when she insulted Science’s mother and thinks his response was way OTT.

Kemal says Science is really sensitive and is vicious if his beliefs or values are attacked. He says Science really wants to win or at least stay in the house a lot longer and that Science is really upset about being nominated. Orla agrees to everything. Not sure of this - but I think kemal said Derek and Makosi (with Kemal and Vanessa) have agreed to send Science to Coventry (totally blank him) until he leaves (they think) on Friday – How nice of them!

Maxwell:

Kemal says Maxwell thinks he has won already. Orla agrees. Kemal asks “everybody loves him on the outside? Everybody?” Orla says “Yeah”. They discuss Maxwell and think he is vile and a bully and an abuser and stupid, and Oral asks “Seriously! Why would someone love someone like THAT!”. Kemal says he does not know but thinks it is down to the editing. Oral says “They do not want the world to know!” Kemal recons that ‘they’ wanted him to win but now have discovered Maxwell’s character is so bad ‘they’ [Endemol] will get rid of him (wow – Kemal might be a little shit but he can really work stuff out).

Anthony:

Kemal says Ant is good looking but absolutely no emotion. Oral agrees. They think he is playing the game hard. Oral says she takes the piss out him and he is too thick to notice. They laugh at him quite nastily.

Craig:

Orla says: “Craig is GREAT” (wtf). Then says Craig is OK. The she says Vanessa told her Craig is two-faced. Kemal goes into Craig’s two-facedness and it seems Orla is persuaded and will be more careful with him. I think they said he is a great cook and Kemal was peeved that he only cooks for “them!”.

General Stuff:

Orla says: “It is so tuff for me to win because of those 2 weeks.” Kemal tells her she might do it if she is happy and be a good laugh, and that she must not be two-faced (he recons two-faced is the kiss of death with the public).

Orla got called to the Diary Room – I think they told her to shut her gob about stuff the other housemates are not supposed to know (thin little gob she has – don’t you think?)

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Luke

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He's got Aspergers

Does he actually, or are you just suggesting that is the case?

My girlfriend and I are convinced he must be autistic (and I even posted as much on the night he went in), it'd be interesting to know if I was (pretty much) right.

I felt really sorry for him yesterday, Makosi is so fucking thick, she's done more secret missions that anyone, so should have known to keep her stupid fat mouth shut (and Eugene said as much, though in a politer manner, in the diary room).

He knows he's not fitting into the group that well, and unlike Science, he doesn't really have the strength to survive as an individual. This was his big chance to to win some favour with the group, and Makosi's constant desire to be the centre of attention ruined it.

And Maxwell is just a cunt. I was really hoping Eugene was going to go over and twat him in the mouth after he came out the diary room. He's also so fucking patronising to Eugene that it's ridiculous - he treats he like an idiot, when he's probably a thousand times more intelligent than Maxwell.

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Oh, and surely Maxwell should be up on another official warning for throwing bog-brush water all over the kitchen, if that isn't a health and safety violation, I don't know what is.

Science was completely in the right to be pissed off about that, and Maxwell was just a lying cunt about it (like fuck had he cleaned it out - and why was he so keen to jump in the shower if it was clean water?).

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DarthSquirrel

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This is now both so bad it's great TV! The Eugene task has been talked about enough already but Science's "I'm going to kill you" look after Maxwell pushed him out of the way to take a shower last night was great to end the show on.

Edit - a classic Science quote courtesy of DS

... I've got a lot more things to look forward to. I'm going back to da hood, with real people."
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That Eugene secret task.... I haven't cringed so much since David Brent put on "Simply The Best" at the end of that management training seminar in "The Office"!

what is his task then? I missed that.

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rjpageuk

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Having had first hand experience of asperger's syndrome I would be very surprised if Eugene suffered from it considering he shows almost none of the symptoms.

I find the way the house mates treat him disgusting but only because I have felt treated just the same (and I am sure I am not alone on a board full of geeks :lol: ). Craig even said in the diary room that he would never be friends with someone like Eugene because he just doesnt look nice, doesnt take care with his appearance and therefore isnt a nice person - amazing!

The way the housemates place importance in acting like idiots over showing any intelligence is baffling. I think if I was Eugene stuck in the house I would corner Derek and make him chat to me 24/7 because he is the only one with anything useful to say.

I think Eugene has very little chance of winning - you cannot win the competition by not being a threat and so never getting nominated. It works well until you get near the end but you just cant win with that strategy (see something similar happen to Vanessa). If Eugene has any hope of winning he needs to develop his quirky personality a bit more and the people editing the program need to stop showing everyone yawning everytime he talks (which I find incredibly insulting because generally he says a lot more interesting things than many of the other housemates).

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Wickedkitten

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Does he actually, or are you just suggesting that is the case?

My girlfriend and I are convinced he must be autistic (and I even posted as much on the night he went in), it'd be interesting to know if I was (pretty much) right.

I felt really sorry for him yesterday, Makosi is so fucking thick, she's done more secret missions that anyone, so should have known to keep her stupid fat mouth shut (and Eugene said as much, though in a politer manner, in the diary room).

He knows he's not fitting into the group that well, and unlike Science, he doesn't really have the strength to survive as an individual.  This was his big chance to to win some favour with the group, and Makosi's constant desire to be the centre of attention ruined it.

And Maxwell is just a cunt.  I was really hoping Eugene was going to go over and twat him in the mouth after he came out the diary room.  He's also so fucking patronising to Eugene that it's ridiculous - he treats he like an idiot, when he's probably a thousand times more intelligent than Maxwell.

Nah, Jon Tickle knows him apparently and said it in an interview.

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Ta classic Science quote

My favourite Science quote was when he was watching Makosi and Orlaith kissing and Vanessa goes "Errh, you're watching them like it's a TV show!" To which he responds "But... It is a TV show!" Love it :lol:

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