Star Wars

[superfunk]

That was their "Episode 2 test" wasn't it, to see if they could do the EP II Yoda in CG? That will already have aged badly then.

If Lucas really wants to fix the films, he should redo every single FX shot in the original trilogy, every single shot in Ep I and a vast number in Ep II. Otherwise his limited tinkering really won't have the desired effect. While he's at it, he can make the Ep I duel longer!!

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According to the Episode III 'Making of' book. It was done as a 'warm-up' for Episode III. It will probably be in the 6 film box set whenever that comes out. ROTS is slated for release on DVD in November this year.

I've a feeling that Lucas will retain a little team that will carry on tinkering ad infinitum. The films will evolve into forms unrecognisable from their original guises in time.

[SeanR]

According to the Episode III 'Making of' book. It was done as a 'warm-up' for Episode III. It will probably be in the 6 film box set whenever that comes out. ROTS is slated for release on DVD in November this year.

I've a feeling that Lucas will retain a little team that will carry on tinkering ad infinitum. The films will evolve into forms unrecognisable from their original guises in time.

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five months from cine to DVD (and, I guess, VHS)

Desperately trying to catch this xmas with the 6-movie box-set, n'est pas?

[superfunk]

five months from cine to DVD (and, I guess, VHS)

Desperately trying to catch this xmas with the 6-movie box-set, n'est pas?

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Would make sense wouldn't it? I got my info from here, by the way

AOTC was released on DVD in November 2002 after a May release too

[MoFo2]

I like the bit in ESB where the Falcon almost goes kamikaze on one of the Star Destroyers only to "disappear" as a slug on the Star Destroyer's side. "No ship that small has a cloaking device!" - "Lord Vader demands an update" - Uh-oh!

MoFo2

[Mercury]

I loved the bit in A New Hope, where they goto rescue Leia, and after initial entry to the cell blocks, Han talks to the officer on the intercom:

"Everything's under control, situation normal"

"What happened?"

"Had a slight weapons malfunction, but everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine, we're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

"We're sending a squad up"

"Ah, negative, negative,we have a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak, very dangerous"

"Who is this? What's your operating number?"

*Blam*

"Boring conversation anyway. Luke! We're gonna have company!"

It was a great piece of acting from Ford, and some fantastic humour following a tense gun fight. Brilliantly paced and placed.

Then of course Luke enters Leia's room, and she pulls out an immortal line...

That whole sequence for me was fantastic. Another fight, the escape into the garbage...then THAT bit is good too!

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That is mine too. Harrison Ford's face when he says 'How are you?' is awesome.

[Ivanho]

New Hope (SE) - The new flyby of the X-wings as they "lock S Foils".

Empire - The Two Star Destroyers coliding as the Falcon twists away. You could just imagine the Ships Captains having to explain the cost of a new paint job to the Emperor

Empire (again) The Vader choking the bloke from Grange Hill (Ozzel ?) for screwing up.

AOTC - Obi-Wan to Anakin, "You'll be the death of me one day". Made me laugh.

And god knows how many more, including most that has be mentioned already.

[SeanR]

That is mine too. Harrison Ford's face when he says 'How are you?' is awesome.

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"The cringe", yes, I concur.

[Guest]

The start of the first film is great isn't it?

I love the way that first sequence "ends" with the droids in the escape pod...with CP-3O's "That's funny, the damage doesn't look as bad from out here" line that is so innocent considering everything...and the music that follows this as the pod drops towards the planet...brilliant.

[shock33]

Surprised no-ones mentioned Empire Strikes Back:

Vader to Boba Fett - NO disintergration....

Boba Fett - As you wish....

(Still my favourite is Luke vs Vader in RotJ and Duel of the Fates but they've been mentioned)

[stellar12]

You mean the Shuttle Tyderium?

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Yep that'd be the one.

[Sarlaccfood]

I'm suprised the Twin Sunset hasn't been mentioned more. It's so beautiful (thanks largley to the music), it was the moment that a whole generation felt for and bonded with this young farm boy. It always sends shivers down my spine.

Special mention goes to "Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan-Kenobi" and the way Solo instantly reaches for his blaster when they meet Vader in Bespin.

[jonny_rat]

Well actually, that's the only thing I really hate of A New Hope; that movie makes the stormtroopers look so stupid and not skilled at all. Sometimes I even think that I'm watching a slapstick. Are these guys truly Fett's clones? Fuck!

AotC has it's flaws, but you've got to admit the troopers were bad ass.

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Isn't there some explanation for all this.. or something? Erm, that the stormtroopers aren't clones like in the prequels?

I don't know though, I'm out of my depth here.

[Rorsach]

Isn't there some explanation for all this.. or something?  Erm, that the stormtroopers aren't clones like in the prequels?

I don't know though, I'm out of my depth here.

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Entirely correct sir. The new stormtroopers are just volunteers from planets in the Empire and are trained on Carida (which gets blown up by Kyp Duron).

[Ivanho]

So... all the clones died or something?

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It's not been covered excatly what happens yet, but in the books, clones are considered a very bad thing (something about emotional instability).

[Jack]

Clones age too quickly. It happened to Dolly the sheep.

[Hoop]

I'm suprised the Twin Sunset hasn't been mentioned more. It's so beautiful (thanks largley to the music), it was the moment that a whole generation felt for and bonded with this young farm boy. It always sends shivers down my spine.

Special mention goes to "Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan-Kenobi" and the way Solo instantly reaches for his blaster when they meet Vader in Bespin.

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Indeed. I love that scene SO much.

[superfunk]

It's not been covered excatly what happens yet, but in the books, clones are considered a very bad thing (something about emotional instability).

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But surely it is implied in AOTC that the clonetroopers become the stormtroopers in the original Trilogy?

In AOTC, after Jango Fett whups Obiwan's ass on the landing platform, Jango walks up the ramp of his ship and bangs his head on the door - just like his genetic clone in Episode IV who bangs his head on the Death Star control room door. It wasn't coincidence that Lucas put that in episode II.

So, in conclusion, the stormtroopers are clones

[Spacehost]

After watching Clone Wars today I've got another one- Anakin and Ventress face off at an ancient temple-ground, and the rain starts to fall, sizzling off the lightsabres... two pure Genndy Tartakovski/ Star Wars moments rolled into one. Too bad we won't get Season 2 on DVD until after Ep III is out.

[Treble]

Anakin and Ventress

Eh? When is her name mentioned in the Clone Wars eps? I don't remember that at all. Or did you find it out elsewhere?

[Commander Jameson]

I'm sure I read in the old "Empire Strikes Back" fold-out magazine back when the film was released that the stormtroopers were clones. I'm a bit surprised that this has changed. Also, doesn't the commentary in AOTC mention this when Jango bangs his head?

CJ

[Spacehost]

Eh? When is her name mentioned in the Clone Wars eps? I don't remember that at all. Or did you find it out elsewhere?

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Director's commentary.

[Captain Crunch]

I love the scene where the Emperor arrives at the deathstar and the general guy is pissing his pants.

[Matt Defis]

Obviously the clones get fewer in number considering the war and the jedi they have to go after have and will take a lot of them out so it's considered that the stormtroopers are a mix of people trained and clones.

A group of stormtroopers are cloned between ep3-4 from grand admiral thrawn and spliced with jango (not sure about jango but i know it's a big name warrior in the star wars universe. correct me if i'm wrong) fett to create a warrior with the ultimate tactical knowledge. So yes clones are used but they do recruit throughout the empire.

[makkuwata]

Aah, the expanded universe.

Chewie Vs Moon

FIGHT!

[jonny_rat]

So, during the transition from 3-4, the stormtroopers go from being hardened, ultimate soldier battle-guys to useless cannon fodder.

Darth Vader and Obi-Wan become geriatric shufflers.

Both the Emperor and Yoda lose their lightsabres, presumably down the back of the sofa or something.

I'm half expecting George Lucas to pop up at the end of Ep III and declare to the audience "If you guys are wondering why everyone becomes a total puss by the next film, just remember: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE. Any other weird, inconsistant stuff you see: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE, yeah."

[Space Renegade Ulala]

So, during the transition from 3-4, the stormtroopers go from being hardened, ultimate soldier battle-guys to useless cannon fodder.

Darth Vader and Obi-Wan become geriatric shufflers.

Both the Emperor and Yoda lose their lightsabres, presumably down the back of the sofa or something.

I'm half expecting George Lucas to pop up at the end of Ep III and declare to the audience "If you guys are wondering why everyone becomes a total puss by the next film, just remember: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE.  Any other weird, inconsistant stuff you see: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE, yeah."

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i) When lose your arms, legs and lungs you do/reach 50 years old, move as well, you will not. Unless you're called Dooku (80s), Qui-Gon (60s) or Palpatine (50s), that is.

ii) Why does Yoda need to show Luke his lightsabre on Dagobah? As for the Emperor, he's too fucking cool and powerful to bother using it on a whiney waste of space like Luke

Can't argue about the Imperial Army, though. From wicked-ass, rock hard Clonetroopers to weak-ass, piss poor Stormtroopers is a bit of a comedown to say the least.

[Readybrek]

Eh? When is her name mentioned in the Clone Wars eps? I don't remember that at all. Or did you find it out elsewhere?

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everything needs to be named for the action figures

but yeah, all my favourite Star Wars moments are from the clone wars cartoons, mostly of Samual L Jackson Jedi pulling the bolts out of battle droids and then firing them through a load of other battle droids with the force, and the fight in the train station.

[Rog]

o/\o

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Asajj Ventress

[Guest]

Can't argue about the Imperial Army, though. From wicked-ass, rock hard Clonetroopers to weak-ass, piss poor Stormtroopers is a bit of a comedown to say the least.

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Isn't it obvious? The first lot die out/get too old, and they draught in all sorts of raw recruits as the other Kamino lot are destroyed or something.

Makes sense to me.

[Distinct muttering]

So, during the transition from 3-4, the stormtroopers go from being hardened, ultimate soldier battle-guys to useless cannon fodder.

Darth Vader and Obi-Wan become geriatric shufflers.

Both the Emperor and Yoda lose their lightsabres, presumably down the back of the sofa or something.

I'm half expecting George Lucas to pop up at the end of Ep III and declare to the audience "If you guys are wondering why everyone becomes a total puss by the next film, just remember: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE.  Any other weird, inconsistant stuff you see: IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORCE, yeah."

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But as far as they are portrayed in the orginal trilogy they are crackshots, even though due to Lucas not wanting his leads to die early deaths appear not to be able to hit anything.

Remember Obi wan after seeing the burnt out Sandcrawler in ANH

"This is not the work of sandpeople, the blast marks are too accurate, only Imperial Stormtroopers could of done this"

Dont take anything with regards to Clones/stormtroopers from the EU as being cannon. Lucas has stated in the past that only he will define where the story goes.