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Pekoe

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Not really. I mean the content of 18 rated games wouldn't generally get an 18 in a film. And that games like GTA are quite knowingly aimed at under 18's with the 18 rating being a great marketing tool.

Sorry if it seems like I keep pushing my disagreement with this, but you don't aim a game at someone who 'legally' can't buy it - it would contravene the BBFC rating ( You can't advertise the product on a billboard by a school as an example ) and be a waste of marketing spend. GTA is a game for over 18's, that also happens to be of interest to children who seek to encapsulate adulthood.

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JPickford (retired mod)

JPickford (retired mod)

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Sorry if it seems like I keep pushing my disagreement with this, but you don't aim a game at someone who 'legally' can't buy it - it would contravene the BBFC rating ( You can't advertise the product on a billboard by a school as an example ) and be a waste of marketing spend. GTA is a game for over 18's, that also happens to be of interest to children who seek to encapsulate adulthood.

Well they did it and it worked.

I bet any 15 year old boy you ask has played GTA.

I probably would let my 12 year old+ children play GTA3/VC/SA if I thought they could handle it.

Me too. I don't think there's much to worry about.

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ICECOLD

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Saw a code demo of this today, got to play some of it too, and will be playing review code hopefully tomorrow...

...and it's good. I'd be tempted to say very good, but I didn't play it for all too long. Having said that, it's got a strange Harry Potter meets Grange Hill quality to it, and I can see it getting a decent 7 or 8 in Edge. One to watch, definitely :)

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Pekoe

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Well they did it and it worked.

When and where then? I talking about marketing here, rather than content. I would still disagree that the features of GTA are one's where the designers have made it with 'what kids want' in mind.

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JPickford (retired mod)

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When and where then? I talking about marketing here, rather than content. I would still disagree that the features of GTA are one's where the designers have made it with 'what kids want' in mind.

I think Rockstar had kids as well as adults in mind with GTA. I think the whole 18 thing was cynically engineered.

I lost interest in buying fireworks the minute I hit 16.

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Marzipan Travolta

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I think Rockstar had kids as well as adults in mind with GTA. I think the whole 18 thing was cynically engineered.

I don't really think there's anything cynical about it and I don't really see that they do aim it at children. It's a simple fact that if you go for the lowest common denominator among adults (as a game with the astronomical sales of GTA must do) then that is also going to encompass the vast majority of children. GTA2 was the most mature game of the series and I think it sold by far the least too?

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I lost interest in buying fireworks the minute I hit 16.

I didn't, it took a near miss with some home made explosives born out of over the counter stuff before I lost interest. Mind you, that was back in the day when the stuff you bought over the counter was capable of lifting traffic cones a good ten feet into the air.

Bully appeals for a number of reasons as you can imagine........ :)

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Cyhwuhx

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.::: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we go!

Bully's boy-on-boy scenes causing a stir

Rockstar's latest lets players experiment with same-sex make-out sessions; ESRB says that content was considered in assigning the game a T-for-Teen rating.

By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot

Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:46 am PT

Rockstar Games' Bully has been the subject of controversy since it was first announced more than a year ago. The game shipped to retail last week after a failed 11th-hour attempt by Florida lawyer Jack Thompson to have it banned.

However, the controversy surrounding the game might not be over with just yet. In navigating the angst-filled halls of Bullworth Academy as 15-year-old Jimmy Hopkins, players can participate in some extracurricular tonsil hockey with significant others. But while these significant others are typically female, there's at least one other boy in the game whom Jimmy can successfully court, as documented by this in-game video from GameBrink.

The Entertainment Software Rating Board surprised some people last month when it issued a T-for-Teen rating for the game. The content descriptors listed for the game on the ESRB's Web site are crude humor, language, use of alcohol and tobacco, violence, and sexual themes. When asked about the boy-on-boy make-out sessions, the ESRB told GameSpot, "That content was considered in the assignment of the rating."

Thompson addressed ESRB president Patricia Vance in an e-mail he claimed to have sent to "every major news organization in America and the UK," as well as a host of lawmakers and industry representatives.

"Dear Ms. Vance," Thompson wrote, "We just found gay sexual content in Bully, as Jimmy Hopkins makes out with another male student. Good luck with your 'Teen' rating now, Patty."

A representative from Bully publisher Take-Two had not responded to a request for comment as of press time.

Thompson should apply for a job at Sony PR.

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JohnC

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If this court in any fashion proceeds toward issuing a show cause order, given its utter baselessness...

Could be used by Rockstar for any of JT's cases.

I notice the article doesn't say anything about the reason for contempt proceedings. What are the grounds exactly, other than the obvious "Jack's a nutter"?

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Cyhwuhx

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He basically starts raving about how biased the judge, jury, and everyone else who disagrees with him is if he doesn't have his way. Essentially, he shows the court contempt whenever they don't suck his nob.

.::: He's his own fanboy.

Also basically he's now regarding a 'gay kiss' as adult content. Is that even correct?

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Massive Invisible Dog

Massive Invisible Dog

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It shouldn't be but in a society where we can't handle an adult gay kiss on TV this isn't going to go down well. Lord knows what the reaction in parts of the US will be. This is a dream for Jack.

It's going to cause a shitstorm, but it's going to make every single person arguing against it looks like a bunch of backwards, hypocritical fucknuts.

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JPickford (retired mod)

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In the States maybe. But sometimes I think they still live in the middle ages over there, mentally.

No this was in the UK. I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT: It was all about 'section 28' which prohibited the promotion of homosexuality in schools. This effectively made it impossible for a teacher to be openly gay (in theory).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

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