JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Because it's Bully or because of the gay thing, or as a combination of the two? Just the children thing I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Nobody seems to want to take on the issue of teens in school and homosexuality, so maybe if this does spark off a debate, it could be a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzipan Travolta Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Just the children thing I mean. I can see it now: PIXELLATED CHILDREN IN MILD SEXUAL EXPERIMENTATION SHOCKER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I can see it now: PIXELLATED CHILDREN IN MILD SEXUAL EXPERIMENTATION SHOCKER. Well precisely. Except they won't describe it as 'mild' will they? And the sort of people who get upset over stuff like that probably wouldn't consider it so. The Hot Coffee thing was contraversial because the media (and many people) can't comprehend the idea that a game isn't aimed at children. Here we have a game that *is* aimed at children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkster Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Well, 15 and over at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Invisible Dog Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Well we all know that gay people only turn gay once they leave school, so this is pretty fucking sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Just hearing this news has made me a bit gay, imagine what it might do to an impressionable child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This is all nothing compared to Tingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Invisible Dog Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I've never been so worried about my work having a keylogger as I was when I typed the last post I decided not to post. Needless to say, I'm fucking disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Well precisely. Except they won't describe it as 'mild' will they? And the sort of people who get upset over stuff like that probably wouldn't consider it so. The Hot Coffee thing was contraversial because the media (and many people) can't comprehend the idea that a game isn't aimed at children. Here we have a game that *is* aimed at children. Bully is aimed at Children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think so yes. Not exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therearerules Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Could this be the reason for the 15 cert? Or don't the BBFC take into account sexual persuasions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave White Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 although I have super Jet lag managed to grab the usa version and have been playing this none stop. My highlight has to be firing my catapult from a tree at the jocks getting some football practice in. Its very very good indeed. Although it's bring ing my school career all back, fire alarm pulling, and endless visits to the headmaster lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzipan Travolta Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Here we have a game that *is* aimed at children. I've seen absolutely no evidence so far beyond it being set in a school and on the PS2 to imply that that is the case. It's got an unpronouncable name, there's absolutely zero marketing, it doesn't have a very cartoony feel to it and the script and characters so far seem very intelligient. It's aimed at relatively well informed gamers until Take Two's marketing department decide otherwise. They don't seem to be doing much of anything for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I've seen absolutely no evidence so far beyond it being set in a school and on the PS2 to imply that that is the case. It's got an unpronouncable name, there's absolutely zero marketing, it doesn't have a very cartoony feel to it and the script and characters so far seem very intelligient. It's aimed at relatively well informed gamers until Take Two's marketing department decide otherwise. They don't seem to be doing much of anything for it. If saying an 18 game is 'aimed at adults' it's perfectly reasonable to think that a 15 rated game isn't specifically aimed at adults. Particulary one which mainly depicts 15 year old children. Of course it's aimed at children (and adults too). If this is remotely like Skool Daze then it will definitely appeal to school kids. Marketing? The media is doing that for free - which has surely been the plan all along. Why does non cartoony graphics and intelligent script (not if that video is anything to go by) mean it isn't aimed at children? Lots of childrens media is live action and intelligent. Lots of children are intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splendid Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'm not so sure. It's too 80's kerrazy boarding school movie to be aimed a children. They just won't get the references, or the gayism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'm not so sure. It's too 80's kerrazy boarding school movie to be aimed a children. They just won't get the references, or the gayism. You're seriously suggesting this game is specifically aimed at people in their 30's? I haven't seen much of the game apart from a couple of videos, what wouldn't they 'get' and why would it matter? If anything the media would get more mileage out a game aimed at adults featuring homosexual children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave White Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 although so far I am having immense fun with itching powder, and chucking marbles on the floor. Causing all sorts of riots and hiding in lockers. I have just opened up the map and the gameworld is not just the school attall. There are 5 large areas to be had. The combat is really really good, and I have a nice reportoire of moves already. blocks and reversals are there and u can diss your oponent as you fight. I knew this would be good but not as good as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splendid Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 You're seriously suggesting this game is specifically aimed at people in their 30's? Absolutely. It's for Rockstar fans. I haven't seen much of the game apart from a couple of videos, what wouldn't they 'get' and why would it matter? The music, the in-jokes the subtle references. Have a go, and you'll see what I mean. It's not easily explained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'll give it a rent. Absolutely. It's for Rockstar fans. Kids then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dogg III Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'm sitting here trying to think of a game that isn't aimed at children, and I'm struggling. But as with the GTAs a lot of the humour will be lost on them and they'll concentrate on putting stink bombs in people's lockers and stealing dirty pants from the girls' dorm. Which obviously is no fun for me. I'm all about the satire, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'm sitting here trying to think of a game that isn't aimed at children, and I'm struggling. But as with the GTAs a lot of the humour will be lost on them and they'll concentrate on putting stink bombs in people's lockers and stealing dirty pants from the girls' dorm. I agree. Personally I thing GTA is aimed mainly at kids. I'm really talking about the 15 rating meaning they can't pretend the game is aimed at adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekoe Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I agree. Personally I thing GTA is aimed mainly at kids. I'm really talking about the 15 rating meaning they can't pretend the game is aimed at adults. Woah, nelly! The BBFC rating is not a marketing tool. A 15 rating means it is not suitable material for anyone under the age of 15. That's all. To suggest that games as entertainment are not viable products produced by and for adults is simply foolhardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Eh? Of course the rating is a marketing tool. That's how it got started in the games industry with companies like CRL getting 18 ratings for lame Dracula games. GTA is pretty much the perfect game design for a 14 year old. Of course adults can enjoy it (I did - for a bit) but at 14 I would have thought it the best thing ever. Nowadays I'm more interested in less sensational stuff. And as far as I can remember the game contained nothing that you wouldn't see in 15 rated movie. 18 ratings for games are a bit daft (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Invisible Dog Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I agree. Personally I thing GTA is aimed mainly at kids. I'm really talking about the 15 rating meaning they can't pretend the game is aimed at adults. It's a U, it must be for kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Yeah, that's what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekoe Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think you add gravitas to Keith Vaz's belief's with that sentiment. Personally I find the BBFC ratings a suitable level of restriction and the guidelines they impose fall in the right side of morality and acceptability. The problem derives from the perception still that games are for kids. Rockstar have said many times that they make games for adults - the fact that kids will find these themes interesting is no different than other discoveries they will try and find in their lives - porn mags, first sip of lager, two's up on a cig etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Invisible Dog Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Yeah, that's what I meant. I know what you meant - the only things which make something for adults are sex, violence and swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford (retired mod) Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I know what you meant - the only things which make something for adults are sex, violence and swearing. Not really. I mean the content of 18 rated games wouldn't generally get an 18 in a film. And that games like GTA are quite knowingly aimed at under 18's with the 18 rating being a great marketing tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splendid Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Hang on, if GTA is the perfect game for 14 year olds, then isn't Bully a bit tame for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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