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The new console room looks much smaller, unless it's just a central chamber. Quite like it -- its a very clear resemblance to classic Who. I imagine budget cutbacks have more to do with it though.

It's just the raised platform, and it's about the same size as far as I can tell.

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After last year's effort I decided to watch it on iPlayer tomorrow instead.

In general, though, I think the BBC are fecking around with it too much with split series and the like.

Plus, I love Who but got to the point where I was sick to death of River Song and that story line or arc or whatever. So glad they are gone now.

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Season 7.1 was very weak. And faffed about far too much with the over-rought Pond exit. Knowing about it months in advance, and then teased or seeing them argue about leaving in pretty much every episode (before deciding to stay and then leaving anyway) was just draining (especially as I found Amy a bit rubbish).

This was quite good, but at the same time suffered the same "Moffat-ism" as most episodes. Too many ideas in too little time, sassy female that everyone's in awe of, some lines/scenes that seemed written and then a story to fit them in was crafted in later...

I liked this special though (some clunky scenes aside) - I thought it was nicely shot, and all the cast were good. I want to see a spin off with Vash/Jenny/Straxx though.

Clara/Oswin was interesting. Love the idea it's a companion who might die everytime she appears until the mystery is solved. (And may never travel in the TARDIS?)

It was a bit jarring to see the Doctor, who at the end of S6 was made to realise the entire Universe was offering to help him, here moaning that the Universe doesn't care if he helps

I still enjoy the show, and I prefer Moffat/11 to RTD/10, but it does get hard to love it sometime.

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It also appears as though fewer and fewer people care at all now - such a shame with the show's 50th anniversary year only a week away. Remember the good old New Who days when there would be page after page of posts before and after every episode? Well we've had barely two pages of posts in this thread in two months, and this year's Christmas Special was just on telly. Not a good sign.

Yeah. Might as well cancel it now. If Rllmuk isn't interested anymore it can't possibly be worth keeping on telly.

Guys. The chat happens on Gallifrey Base. There'll already be a thread about the mystery, a thread about the music, a thread about Yeti, a thread about the console room and a thread saying how nobody cares and it's the worst Who since Timelash.

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Yeah they could have stripped it down a bit, lizard lesbian was pointless, Straxx was ace why not just have him doing the exposition? also why the whole world in peril schtick again? Could easily just have been evil ice ghost killing a few people.

Moaning aside it was entertaining. Would just like some smaller more focused stories.

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I thought that was excellent. Best Christmas special so far (though, given RTDs bombastic overloads, that's maybe not saying too much), and great festive entertainment. Good to see that, despite the threat to humanity, it was essentially a small story, limiting the events to a small group of people rather than filling the skies with millions of Daleks, giant spaceships, or having giant Cybermen destroying Victorian London without any lasting consequence.

The new console and control room are excellent and finally get rid of the "everything PLUS the kitchen sink" bollocks console that was there before. The new titles, while original, harkened back to the old days in their style and I quite like the new arrangement of the theme.

I also liked the governess creature, which reminded me of the Ray Harryhausen Medusa from Clash of the Titans in its look and movement.

I'm not overly keen on yet another sassy, fearless female companion, but she didn't grate in this episode, so I'll wait and see how things progress on that score.

I'm still waiting for the modern equivalent of a Pyramids of Mars / Horror of Fang Rock / Seeds of Doom story though. Something particularly nasty to stick in a generation of kids' minds... :)

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I liked "It's smaller on the outside!" - a very typically Moffatty sort of reversal.

Oh my God, they killed Kenny.

That's definitely the impression we're supposed to get from that trailer. I can imagine Moffat thinking: "So you thought Rory died a lot, did you? Well wait till you see this..."

The other day I read this comment on how a lot of people misremember RTD's period showrunning Doctor Who - how once you look past the farting aliens it was a lot bleaker than people give it credit for. ("Put that in your lightweight EastEnders-in-space argument and smoke it.")

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Season 7.1 was very weak. And faffed about far too much with the over-rought Pond exit. Knowing about it months in advance, and then teased or seeing them argue about leaving in pretty much every episode (before deciding to stay and then leaving anyway) was just draining (especially as I found Amy a bit rubbish).

This was quite good, but at the same time suffered the same "Moffat-ism" as most episodes. Too many ideas in too little time, sassy female that everyone's in awe of, some lines/scenes that seemed written and then a story to fit them in was crafted in later...

I liked this special though (some clunky scenes aside) - I thought it was nicely shot, and all the cast were good. I want to see a spin off with Vash/Jenny/Straxx though.

Clara/Oswin was interesting. Love the idea it's a companion who might die everytime she appears until the mystery is solved. (And may never travel in the TARDIS?)

It was a bit jarring to see the Doctor, who at the end of S6 was made to realise the entire Universe was offering to help him, here moaning that the Universe doesn't care if he helps

I still enjoy the show, and I prefer Moffat/11 to RTD/10, but it does get hard to love it sometime.

7.1 was much better than 6, which was all over the place on quality. Anyone complaining about overwrought endings and dragging stuff out has erased the final RTD season from their memory, plus there were only six eps of one parters. That keeps pace no matter how much you try tk draw it out.

In retrospect, series 5 was very very good. It set the bar for Moffat's fairytale-esque style, wasnt so complicated it lost the easily bored and had a satisfying if not wholly perfect finale. I'm glad there is a new mystery and suspect the last two series will be looked upon with more fondness than they are now.

I really like the new TARDIS, especially the white spinny jobs.

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