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Trailer speculation

Woman in there dressed as Nefertiti.. Looks to be set around the discovery of the tombs of the Pharaohs (1920's) judging by the dress of the others in shot. Possibly Howard Carter & the team that uncovered Tutankhamen's tomb? (Nefertiti was his mother)

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I missed the Christmas special and haven't bothered about it since... My worry is that DW becomes too samey. Lots of running, lots of clever time stuff but never any real danger or tension. Major changes in the series are never a surprise and usually spoiled by the tabloid press... Or the BBC themselves.

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I'd also like them to take a different pattern to the series... It seems to have fallen into a pattern of setting up an arc in the first episode, a couple of one offs, a two parter with, a couple of one offs, another two parter, couple of one offs and then two part finale. I'd rather smaller scale 3-4 parters with a definite end to them but with enough time to build up strong secondary characters that can allow for them to surprise the viewers.

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Blogtor Who says this based on the Convention at the weekend:

• Currently, the plan is to screen Series 7 continuously, ie. without a break and running over the Christmas period from 2012 into 2013

So you're looking at Mid Nov for a start date I'd say...:(

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Blogtor Who says this based on the Convention at the weekend:

So you're looking at Mid Nov for a start date I'd say... :(

Yep, cos episode 6 is the Christmas special, right? Assuming there are no Doctor-only adventures before he meets the new Companion.

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I'd also like them to take a different pattern to the series... It seems to have fallen into a pattern of setting up an arc in the first episode, a couple of one offs, a two parter with, a couple of one offs, another two parter, couple of one offs and then two part finale. I'd rather smaller scale 3-4 parters with a definite end to them but with enough time to build up strong secondary characters that can allow for them to surprise the viewers.

Well, they're all one parters, so that's a change!

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Blogtor Who has a spoiler on a returning character for a season 7 episode

Jenny! Part of the Lesbian Crimefighting duo from A Good Man Goes to War...No shots of Vash yet, but it's expect they'll both be there!

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Since spotting "classic Who" on Netflix, I've been watching them from the start. They've got 70-odd episodes on there, which I think goes as far as the second doctor, minus any incomplete serials.

The first episode is quite good, until they go back in time and spend three episodes talking about fire with some cavemen. It's a bit boring.

The Daleks seven-parter was entertaining. It seems like they had a much larger budget to spend on this, on the daleks costumes and the city model and the petrified forest set. They really haven't changed much at all, the voices, design, everything. It's interesting to see how it all started. Again, it drags on a lot. They spend one episode just walking through some caves under a mountain. Then they have a fight in a room. Gotta stretch that budget, I guess.

Next seems to be a bottle episode set on the Tardis with everyone (over-)acting weirdly.

Question: is it worth sticking with? Or shall I seek out a list of the best episodes and just watch those? Are any of the lost/restored audio episodes worth tracking down? I'd like to see the first regeneration episode, but I understand that is one of the missing ones. :(

Alternatively, any recommendations appreciated. :)

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Since spotting "classic Who" on Netflix, I've been watching them from the start. They've got 70-odd episodes on there, which I think goes as far as the second doctor, minus any incomplete serials.

The first episode is quite good, until they go back in time and spend three episodes talking about fire with some cavemen. It's a bit boring.

The Daleks seven-parter was entertaining. It seems like they had a much larger budget to spend on this, on the daleks costumes and the city model and the petrified forest set. They really haven't changed much at all, the voices, design, everything. It's interesting to see how it all started. Again, it drags on a lot. They spend one episode just walking through some caves under a mountain. Then they have a fight in a room. Gotta stretch that budget, I guess.

Next seems to be a bottle episode set on the Tardis with everyone (over-)acting weirdly.

Question: is it worth sticking with? Or shall I seek out a list of the best episodes and just watch those? Are any of the lost/restored audio episodes worth tracking down? I'd like to see the first regeneration episode, but I understand that is one of the missing ones. :(

Alternatively, any recommendations appreciated. :)

Glad you're enjoying it, I absolutely love the first set of episodes with William Hartnell. The pace of TV was simply much, much slower then. And it was filmed "as live"almost like pointing the camera at a theatre play. The first season was filmed in a studio that was nortoriously tiny and out dated even in 1963, so some of the sets and effects they pull off are a miracle. And the slow-pace is probably less evident to someone who watched it one 25 minute episode a week.

But yes, unfortunately the first regeneration episode is missing. Though the actual 5-10 second sequence of the regeneration itself survived somehow. It's from Episode 4 of "The Tenth Planet". Episodes 1-3 of this exist in their entirety and are the first appearance of an important enemy!

Also, going through it one story at a time might destroy you. There is some utter crap ahead :)

If you liked The Daleks, you should check out their second story, The Dalek Invasion of Earth. Another important first in that story too.

That third story, on the TARDIS, was a last minute script when their initial commission was made 13 episodes and they realised there would be 2 left over after the first 4 part and second 7 part story. It's nortorious for having the most ridiculous resolution to anything, ever.

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They didn't just forget they had two more episodes to film. There was supposed to be a whole other story after The Daleks to do with robots that was canned, so they ended up extending The Daleks and adding The Edge Of Destruction to make up for it. That's also why The Daleks is stretched out so much.

I quite like TEOD actually, although the end is indeed daft. It's surprisingly rare to see a whole story set in the Tardis.

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They didn't just forget they had two more episodes to film. There was supposed to be a whole other story after The Daleks to do with robots that was canned, so they ended up extending The Daleks and adding The Edge Of Destruction to make up for it. That's also why The Daleks is stretched out so much.

I quite like TEOD actually, although the end is indeed daft. It's surprisingly rare to see a whole story set in the Tardis.

Am struggling to remember which one had Tom Baker pretending the TARDIS contained a municipal swimming pool ...

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Well I'm going to attempt to watch the whole lot, anyway. I have 'acquired' the missing episodes and am currently watching (or, erm, listening to, with some pictures) the Marco Polo serial.

Again, it's pretty slow-going. I reckon some clever editor type could easily squash these multi-part eps into one 45 minute episode without losing the crux of the story. Release them as a compilation, Classic Doctor Who's Best Bits or something.

For now, they're a handy length to fit into my lunch break. I reckon I can get through every episode ever in about... two years? Unless I utterly die of boredom, of course.

Hartnell plays an interesting character. He's just a grumpy old man, and often isn't even the main character in the story, or even a particularly nice person. The 'companions' do a lot of the heroics. I'm not used to this, but it makes an interesting change. I also like how he stumbles his lines so often. Nowadays they'd just do another take, but not here - they just go with it. :)

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Well I'm going to attempt to watch the whole lot, anyway. I have 'acquired' the missing episodes and am currently watching (or, erm, listening to, with some pictures) the Marco Polo serial.

Again, it's pretty slow-going. I reckon some clever editor type could easily squash these multi-part eps into one 45 minute episode without losing the crux of the story. Release them as a compilation, Classic Doctor Who's Best Bits or something.

For now, they're a handy length to fit into my lunch break. I reckon I can get through every episode ever in about... two years? Unless I utterly die of boredom, of course.

Hartnell plays an interesting character. He's just a grumpy old man, and often isn't even the main character in the story, or even a particularly nice person. The 'companions' do a lot of the heroics. I'm not used to this, but it makes an interesting change. I also like how he stumbles his lines so often. Nowadays they'd just do another take, but not here - they just go with it. :)

Please keep posting your impressions :)

The Beginning DVD boxset includes the first three complete stories and a 30 minute reconstruction of Marco Polo that works pretty well, so yes it can be compressed!

While the cavemen episodes are mostly pretty dull, Hartnell's Doctor is great in how he just wants to get away. And you can see one of the moments where he's "humanised" when Ian stops him killing a caveman in cold blood. And the moment when he apologises to Barbara for being a bastard at the end of Edge of Destruction.

Some fans think Hartnell's fluffs are sort of a character thing he did deliberately. Some of the time, at least! There's a moment in a later 1st Doctor story where he plays two parts, which I've only heard on audio the once ages and ages ago, when apparently he doesn't do any at all.

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