Jump to content
IGNORED

Doctor Who

FishyFish

By FishyFish
in Film, TV & Radio

 Share

Recommended Posts

Hexx

Hexx

Posted
Posted

This episode moved along a tab more than the others, but it's still an excerise is complete WTF ery

WTF is Vera, who so far seems to be the only one with a brain, doing threatening (weaponless) the lecherous manager in an enclosed, hidden chamber

WTF is Torchwood doing operating so openly? Aren't they being chased by the CIA?

WTF is Gwen doing, after going to all that trouble with fake IDs, hiding out at HER MUM'S house. And then telling anyone who'll listen that Papa Cooper is her Dad?

WTF are Jack and Esther doing going for a beachfront walk?

WTF did Jack think appealing to the sociopath to do the right thing (again) was going to be effective this time? It's worse than his CoE plan - "Storm the building with no weapons and ask them to leave"

WTF is Torchwood doing with all this evidence? GO PUBLIC. Put in on Youtube. Don't sit on it/hand it over to people you hope mgiht do the right thing They even mentioned WIKILEAKS

WTF did Rex expect tapping on the glass and saying "Hey, you've got to get out of there think would achieve?

WTF happened to Crossroads Demon/PR Beelzebub woman? Why is she now repulsed by Oswald and refuses to help him? She was basically collecting souls earlier?

So why do "The Families" need all the ash? Living Ash? That's what this has got to be about at this stage. Every country in the world has just made human ash factories?

And if that is the end game - why did Phi Corp bother to stack all the drugs for Cat 2/3 people?

CoE also had politicians make horrendous choices - but we got to sit in the room watching as they reasoned themselves to make the choice. Here we just get Esther reading the outcome out of the file.

The problem is that you don't just need to "suspend disbelief" to follow this story, you have to actively embrace the lunacy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
NecroMorrius

NecroMorrius

Posted
Posted

It's a bit like Luther in that regard, except instead of rewarding you with entertainment for doing so, it just bores you half to death. I could add another 50 WTF moments to your list but you've nailed the main ones. My one question is WTF is the point of Torchwood, all they seem to do is hatch a barely half-baked plan to 'get in' which normally revolves around driving a lorry up to the front door or asking the security guards for their ball back. Then they wander in, all hell breaks loose and they reveal themselves to be totally unable to deal with even the slightest of hairy situations. Jack seems to think you get by simply asking the baddies to play nicely, Gwen immediately starts shrieking contradictions and breaks down blubbering as if being loud and Welsh is all it takes to be a superhero, that blond woman doesn't really do anything at all, and Vera has a funny idea about infiltration (i.e. find the most important person in the facility and start shouting at them). Rex was just about holding the series together by being fun to watch, until I noticed he's just a hard-boiled Mickey Smith.

The whole thing is starting to play out like some boring fever-dream that you just want to end but you can't bloody wake up. A decent idea totally pissed up the wall by Russell T. Dickface. And oh god, the music. The music! It's so fucking terrible I want to claw my eardrums out after about 30 seconds. Someone standing at an airport desk? "DUN DUN DUN DUH DUH DUN DUN DUH DUH DUH DUN" someone walking down a corridor? "DUN DUN DUHH DUH DUH DUH DUN DUN DUDDA DUDDA BUH BUH BUH BUH BEEBOOBEEBOO" . People sat around in a room together? "BAM BAM BADDA DA BAM BAM BA DA DA DADA BOOM BOOM BA BA BA BOOM BA BA DADDA DA". Fuck off!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hexx

Hexx

Posted
Posted

I don't get the Ghostbusters 2 reference?

I thought this was the best episode so far, but it really wasn't that great.

Fed up of SUPER!Cooper. Setting up bombs, sneaking around installations. She was a beat cop FFS. "Oh look, several completely unguarded crates of C4, right at my disposal! Presumably complete with about a thousand yards of det-wire and a radio detonator! And it's all held in the medical triage facilities!" Also isn't it nice they have black leather outfits and motocycles lying around. Didn't like the fact Gwen didn't try and get anyone out, and really hope (but expect to be wrong) there wasn't any Cat 1 people in the furnaces Gwen blew up :facepalm: )

Loved the fact the Esther finally twigged using her real name.

Maybe if Gwen had had a similar realisation, hadn't stompped about yelling about HER DAD, then her family wouldn't have been kidnapped. Did like the fact the fact the scene went. "We have your mother" "huh" "We have your husband" "Meh" We have your baby" "I have a baby?" "We want Jack" "OH DEAR GOD NO! THATS AWFUL!"

Glad they finally did what everyone's been saying and made things public. Hated the fact that 1 minute of news footages (What else from RTD?) is likely all we'll get.

Rex, tied up, vulnerable, and in a facility where his friend has just been killed...decides to spill all to the REALLY SHIFTY ACTING GUY. Not quite as dumb as Vera's actions last week, but close.

While I really liked how Jack acted throughout the episode (boring, clunky gay joke aside), he was in it for what 8 minutes? He's really starting to seem like a side character...his scenes were the best though, and the CEO dinner scene was good. Once again the practical implication of the concept are the best scenes. Although...um...why did the wife call the cops?

It's a sign of a bad show when I'm 99% sure I've put far more thought into the episode than the team has.

Also no idea why it would be longer in the US than the UK, didn't seem like much they'd need/want to cut? A bit of the torture perhaps?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
PeteJ

PeteJ

Posted
Posted

Are there any stories of a rushed production for this? Many of the scenes must have been one-take jobs before moving on to the next, it's so sloppy. Early on in this episode Rex is talking into a camera, over his left shoulder you can clealry see about five of the crew milling about in the background. Had similar in an earlier episode too!

Obviously that isn't including all the dumb stuff in the writing too, as mentioned already!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Space Gibbon

Space Gibbon

Posted
Posted

As someone who writes things sometimes, watching Torchwood is like seeing the bits of a draft that you jot down when you're tired or not sure exactly what fits for the moment, that you intend to drastically rework later. Except it's not been reworked, and it's just there in the final version.

Still, amazing stuff.

I especially liked the subtlety of the "45 club" clip playing on the TV moments before the guy appears on the rooftop. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW???

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hexx

Hexx

Posted
Posted

Well that was a little upsetting!

"Let's Kill Hitler" is going to be the Doctor teaching Rory/Amy that they can't change time? Melody has been taken, they've seen her still capture in the future, and they can't change that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Comrade

Comrade

Posted
Posted

Are there any stories of a rushed production for this? Many of the scenes must have been one-take jobs before moving on to the next, it's so sloppy. Early on in this episode Rex is talking into a camera, over his left shoulder you can clealry see about five of the crew milling about in the background. Had similar in an earlier episode too!

Obviously that isn't including all the dumb stuff in the writing too, as mentioned already!

Yeah, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the probably the worst continuity error I've ever seen in a TV show of this scale:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b013c0bc/Torchwood_Miracle_Day_Episode_5/

15:30 and keep your eyes on the baby.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Use of this website is subject to our Privacy Policy, Terms of Use, and Guidelines.

  I accept