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Why? It felt like more of an episode of something and less like a RTD montage of nonsense shonky setpieces one after another. It focused on the more interesting medical side of the 'dilemma', which I found more interesting than watching thingy and whatsiname driving along a beach having a laughable fight with a helicopter. This whole ep was a medical drama with a bit of 24 silliness chucked in.

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The 24 silliness wasn't entertainingly silly, it was just boring and made next to no sense in context:

There appears to be fewer than zero reasons for the CIA director to want Torchwood dead and his employees who know of its existence (but only some of them, others are fine) dead/captured too. The medical side was rubbish too, and the whole thing was punctuated with cringe like the juvenile understanding of Hinduism or the rapidly-deteriorating one-liners (which weren't good to start with and are getting worse, some through thematic repetition like Gwen meeting every strange situation with "THIS IS TORCHWOOD").

And oh my Jesus the woman with her head on backwards looked like she was wearing a cheap cardboard cutout mask.

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It's a shame RTD has probably just killed Torchwood stone dead. I'll admit I'm enjoying myself but this is a return to series 2 Torchwood rather than a continuation of Children of Earth (Torchwood done right). Maybe Moffat can revive it in 15 years or so.

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The 24 silliness wasn't entertainingly silly, it was just boring and made next to no sense in context:

There appears to be fewer than zero reasons for the CIA director to want Torchwood dead and his employees who know of its existence (but only some of them, others are fine) dead/captured too. The medical side was rubbish too, and the whole thing was punctuated with cringe like the juvenile understanding of Hinduism or the rapidly-deteriorating one-liners (which weren't good to start with and are getting worse, some through thematic repetition like Gwen meeting every strange situation with "THIS IS TORCHWOOD").

And oh my Jesus the woman with her head on backwards looked like she was wearing a cheap cardboard cutout mask.

The CIA director is getting his instructions from someone else dude.

The episode was penned by one of the 'House' regulars, hence the focus on the medical side. The medical stuff was interesting, if ultimately too far-fetched. It's an intriguing dilemma to consider and they explored it with mentions of super-resistant bugs and the nasty idea of endless rampant infection in living tissue.

I'm not saying it wasn't all a bit shit mind. It's just Torchwood innit, the only times Torchwood was good were all those bits in children of earth when Torchwood weren't in it. Like they took a really good made-for-TV sci fi and crammed Torchwood into it. The war room stuff, Peter Capaldi etc. This time it's just plain old Torchwood again, which has always been crap, so you can only judge it by Torchwood standards. And by Torchwood standards this has been fair.

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You've got to admire them going for an appeal to science one second and then having them throwing toxic substances willy-nilly into a kettle to 'cure' someone.

Brilliantly, you can blatantly see all the bits that RTD decided to rewrite. The gay, "I'm not gay" agenda. The silly cocktail to cure Jack. Etc etc.

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Doctor Who:

Remember those Doctor/River Song timelines posted before? This is somewhat more ambitious:

http://www.crispian.net/DoctorWho/DrWhoTubeMap.html

Torchwood:

I watched the first episode of Miracle Day yesterday. It had one really good scene, the examination of the splattered remains of the bomber, which was a great way of addressing the big question of the limits of the whole concept behind the series.

But other than that, it was just as silly as the likes of the godawful FlashForward, which was similarly high-concept. I withstood two episodes of that show, but hopefully it'll be worth sticking with Miracle Day a little longer.

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New Doctor Who footage

a new trailer has appeared for BBC Drama in general, but theres about 10 secs of New Who. No real spoilers (I think!!) but a couple of shots of some aliens/monsters, and Amy with a Sword!

It's interesting that the BBC thinks that the best way to build hype for Doctor Who is to tease the promise of a snog between the Doctor and James Corden. :blink:

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She used to be on Neighbours. She's half-Tibetan, I think.

Aaaah, I see. She was rather distinctive looking. Had a silly knack of pulling an evil sneer, which for a harcore super spy is a wee bit of a giveaway.

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Well I thought episode 3 was another (small) step up - but again the most interesting elements are away from Torchwood, and seeing the impact and implications of the mircale (similar to how in CoE the seperate politic scenes were the highlight, but at least there they didn't seem completely distinct from the Torchwood storyline).

Jack gets a couple of nice scenes - his call with Gwen and his confrontation with Danes. This at least makes it feel like a Torchwood story, with some impact from past events rather than Gwen/Jack parachuted in to some random sci-fi story. Barrowman is better than he's been before, but I still find myself wishing a better actor carried the scenes.

Now regarding the BBC cut scene (I'm guessing which few seconds it is). It's a tricky one. There's absolutely no good reason the scene needs to be in there. It adds nothing to the plot, and Jack's scenes could easily fit around it. Conversely I can also see no good reason (realistically) it needed to be taken out. Yes it was a little more...graphically suggestive (if that makes sense!) than the hetro love fest, but not by much.

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Apparently Gwen isn't just unfamiliar with America, she wasn't actually ware it existed before now. Must have spent all her time watching S4C in Cardiff.

:lol:

I liked how she was the one they chose to send shopping. Not the American lass who'd blend in better

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