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Ah, fuck it. Bought it. It's just 4 gold coins.

Thanks for the recommendation. Sounds ...interesting. All the bad reviews were just people being sniffy about canon.

Yeah. It's really difficult to place. Despite the efforts made by various people I'd say it doesn't fit at all. Probably better to treat it like the Big Finish Unbound series.

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In the desperate search for Melody Pond, the TARDIS crash lands in 1930s Berlin, bringing the Doctor face to face with the greatest war criminal in the Universe. And Hitler. The Doctor must teach his adversaries that time travel has responsibilities - and in so doing, learns a harsh lesson in the cruellest warfare of all.

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In relation to who books had to laugh at the gallifrey chronicles being referred to as the homeworld chronicles in the faction book newtons sleep. Timelord propaganda apparently.

I've had Newton's Sleep on my shelf since it came out but I've never gotten around to reading it. Is it any good? I've also still got Erasing Sherlock to get through too.

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I've had Newton's Sleep on my shelf since it came out but I've never gotten around to reading it. Is it any good? I've also still got Erasing Sherlock to get through too.

Well I'd say read Erasing Sherlock first as I really enjoyed that one. Though its barely a Faction book. But a good read anyway. As for Newtons, initially I found it a bit slow for the first 50 odd pages, then it picks up rather sharpish and becomes a rather good read indeed. So at the near halfway mark I say yes its good.

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Edit - I'm not sure what we're going to do about spoilers before the UK broadcast. I'm spoilering this cus some people are extreme. There's no plot or character spoilers, it's just impressions about the feel, tone and content. You'll be fine reading it unless you're the most harden spoiler phobe

And done.

It's not terrible. There's practically none of the staples of Torchwood S1 and S2.

There's a few too many "gung ho" and "Torchwood, FUCK YEAH!" moments, but I think that's the American bombasitc nature bleeding through.

It's all very "set up" ish (which of course the first episode would be). But it's also like a "relaunch" (again to be expected). It feels like other shows were new main characters are introduced. People we've never seen or cared about before are investigating/hunting those that we do.

Acting wise it's solid, if nothing great. No one gets any really juicey scenes (although Pullman gets a rather creepy, yet effective, bad ass moment). Barrowman actually isn't completely terribad in this. His scene post-fountain is surprisingly good, and the actor's clearly having a blast, which helps Jack's impish qualities come back. In fact I'd say this is probably the close to Who S1 Jack we've seen. He's not a randy flirt machine who'll hump anything, and he's not jarringly dark and moody.

The feeling I come away with it pretty much exactly how I felt after CoE episode 1. This isn't the Torchwood we know, but it's familiar. It's confident and compotent without bring brilliant. It's setting up something new we haven't seen before, and I'd like to see where it goes.

CoE didn't get amazing until eps 3 and 4 (and to a lesser extent 2) - there's alot of potential here to do the same.

There's also a delightfully gorey scene :ph34r:

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I enjoyed the first episode. It was completely ludicrous, and giving RTD a budget is likely a dangerous thing. And he should be banned from resorting to the lazy way he shows unfolding plot events by doing those news presenter montages. But it was a fun show, I thought. Looking forward to the next ep!

The helicopter chase on the beach was :lol: . What happened to the bodies in the crash?

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I enjoyed the first episode. It was completely ludicrous, and giving RTD a budget is likely a dangerous thing. And he should be banned from resorting to the lazy way he shows unfolding plot events by doing those news presenter montages. But it was a fun show, I thought. Looking forward to the next ep!

The helicopter chase on the beach was :lol: . What happened to the bodies in the crash?

That tickled me too.

Man shoots at helicopter, helicopter flies off.

Everyone has a relaxed natter.

IMMEDIATE CUT TO EXCITING HELICOPTER CHASE.

It was a decent enough start though, although the tone has taken a big shift back to pre-Children of Earth fare.

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It was a decent enough start though, although the tone has taken a big shift back to pre-Children of Earth fare.

Yeah, it's so not Children of Earth in any way, shape or form.

The lamest bit was probably:

Captain Jack just happening to be in the records depository place at the exact moment the Yank chick found out about him. And at the exact same moment as the random hitman guy tried to kill him. And then said random hitman guy weirdly had explosives strapped to himself.

That was pretty damn shitty writing, actually, thinking about it. :lol:

I just about had suspension of disbelief for Captain Jack happening to be in the seat next to CIA guy on the plane. JUST. Only cos it was kinda neat.

I think you have to switch your brain off and go with it at this point. So much was silly and wouldn't have happened in a gazillion years. Like the child-killer getting released. Like the CIA guy continually saying "CIA!!!!!!" whenever he met anyone, like RTD had written this show when he was 14 years old and thought America was, like, REALLY COOL.

I reiterate, though: I did thoroughly enjoy it, even though it was shit. :D

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About that

I assumed he may have been aware of her snooping and knew when she got there, she would find out. So he went to met her there.

Oh, that was another thing.

The files were all gone! So she had to go to the depository. Then Captain Jack retconned her. Then the next morning someone dumps the "final copy" of the Torchwood files on her desk. :lol:

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I was quite impressed with that. RTD has obviously had his nose put of of joint by the praise of the style Moffat has taken who in, and I noticed this has been filmed in a very similar way (but still has the appalling TV links). But the story so far is quite good, no terrible acting (yet - but I bet the fat Welsh bloke will see to that) and even John Barrowman seems to have calmed down his panto style acting. 8/10 for me.

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