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So, who did she kill?

Well it seems she is to be "weaponised" to fight the Doctor - so I'd assume it's him.

Their first meeting from her perspective will be her killing him, and every meeting from that (from her perspective) is him redeeming/deprogamming her.

Sounds like the Timey/Wimey stuff Moffat would like

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I've always wondered what Moffat's original plans for Captain Jack were. He wrote in that whole thing about him having a few yeas mind wiped from him, which prompted him to leave the Time Agency. Never mentioned again.

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Really? I thought he was ace.

"Do you want me to repeat the question?"

That bit at the start was fantastic. it really set the scene! 10/10 Brilliant.

Now on the other page this has been said:

Dreadful rot. Kitsch, woefully paced and altogether bloody boring.

He's a bit right and also a bit wrong with that statement.

It was certainly entertaining and Doctor Who is getting better and better, but it still lacks something.

I think a few more fighting scenes between the various breeds would have beefed up the whole episode.

It was very similar in staying power ( or lack of ) to the Timothy Dalton one a couple of seasons ago.

Yes its a Kids show at heart so maybe its asking the impossible?

Enjoyable stuff though.

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very Star Warsy in places as well, with quite a few references - and the whole 'how is everyone related' is similar to the kind of stuff you find out during Star Wars as well.

I got the feeling that Moffat had a lot of fun with this episode... it also felt more RTD than any other one in the Matt Smith 'era'.

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River/Melody also gets arrested and put in prison... a prison she seems to be able to escape from at will... however, it was for killing the greatest man ever, who we're assuming it The Doctor. BUT - the people that said that, were the Church people, who may not describe the Doctor like that.

So, who did she kill?

She seemed extremely shocked to see Rory when he came to recruit her, and to me that scene felt very much like foreshadowing for a tragedy involving him.

Plus, she's about the only person left in the universe who hasn't had a turn at killing him yet! :eyebrows:

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Every time River appears again I start getting all confused about when we are in who's timeline.

Could someone explain if my reasoning for this episode is incorrect?

I have issue with the fact she knew what happened at Demon's Run when Rory came to get her. Unless this means that Rory's visit happened at some point after Adult River had already gone to Demon's Run to explain everything? Granted, the fact she was born there and all, she'd have that part in her history anyway, but being an ickle wickle babby she'd not necessarily have it in her diary. Or maybe she does, from stories others have told her. I'm just not 100% on when the River who did show up came from, exactly. Or how she knew to go there.

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I was wondering about the future with the baby. Would they continue the show with them carting a baby around with them? I don't see that happening. Probably more likely we are near the end of Amy and Rory's run or they don't get the baby back, or if they do they send it somewhere safe or suchlike.

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The Doctor yelled something just as the Space Spitfires attacked, though I didn't quite hear what. Maybe that was a callback to something that was said in Victory of the Daleks?

"Danny Boy to the Doctor!"

"Give 'em hell, Danny Boy!"

or somesuch - but whatever it was it did come from Victory of the Daleks.

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I was wondering about the future with the baby. Would they continue the show with them carting a baby around with them? I don't see that happening. Probably more likely we are near the end of Amy and Rory's run or they don't get the baby back, or if they do they send it somewhere safe or suchlike.

The baby didn't like the noises the tardis was making.

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By the way!

Remember what River said to Rory as he watched her shoot up the room with her laser a few weeks back?

I said that she was Rory's daughter at the time! :blah:

But why would she say that to Rory? I think she did mean the Doctor. But good call anyway :P

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Moff's entire run is a work of genius. All interconnected, all thought out and brilliantly delivered.

Really looking forward to finding out why the Tardis blew up and where the Silence's Tardis came from.

RTD's era, while having some brilliant individual episodes, just never had anywhere near this level of depth.

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I loved the scene with Rory reuniting with Amy with the baby. In fact, Rory was amazing this week (and strangely attractive too) and easily the best thing in a great episode.

Nothing strange about it! He's come a long way from the geeky nurse.

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Can someone explain what the Doctor was meant to be reading on the crib, and how it told him who River was?

I get how the Leaf told Rory/Amy - the TARDIS was translating the Forest People's language, who would call "Melody Pond" "River Song" due to their limited words for water (and presumably music ;)).

But why would Gallifrian words on the Doctor's crib tell him anything about her? :sherlock:

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Can someone explain what the Doctor was meant to be reading on the crib, and how it told him who River was?

I get how the Leaf told Rory/Amy - the TARDIS was translating the Forest People's language, who would call "Melody Pond" "River Song" due to their limited words for water (and presumably music ;)).

But why would Gallifrian words on the Doctor's crib tell him anything about her? :sherlock:

Maybe only Timelord's can read Gallifreyan?

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Can someone explain what the Doctor was meant to be reading on the crib, and how it told him who River was?

I get how the Leaf told Rory/Amy - the TARDIS was translating the Forest People's language, who would call "Melody Pond" "River Song" due to their limited words for water (and presumably music ;)).

But why would Gallifrian words on the Doctor's crib tell him anything about her? :sherlock:

Presumably the doctor would be able to read the 'leaf' in the crib and understand it's literal translation Pond/River etc. Awesome actress as she is, the way in which Alex Kingston, (River), touched the crib which the Doctor had just provided for the soon to be kidnapped Melody was enough for me. Ditto for the way she acted towards Rory when he met her in the prison. A tour de force.

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Wouldn't it just be his name though in Gallifreyan? Seeing as it was his crib?

No, I meant if she made it clear she could read it then it would give it away that she had some Timelord DNA and the only real option would be for her to be Amy and Rory's child.

However, I can't remember the exact details of how that scene played out so I could be wrong.

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