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We didn't get a preview of next week's episode even though the announcer said there would be. All we got was a trailer for Horrible Histories. Does next week's look good?

The trailer is on the BBC Doctor Who website.

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Ktisis

Ktisis

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Ganger Amy wasn't a clone. It was real Amy over an ganger link. She didn't know until the Doctor killed the ganger and severed the link. At which point Amy woke up feeling like she'd eaten a few too many pies.

Not disputing that :P

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Mr Cochese

Mr Cochese

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Just went back and listened to the weird bit where Amy hugs the flesh Doctor - 38.40ish on the iplayer.

He says, "Pushing me...but only when she tells you to." Made no sense at the time but I'm guessing he's referring to eyepatch lady.

He said "Push, Amy". Everyone stop being confused this instant.

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Blue Screen Error

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Just went back and listened to the weird bit where Amy hugs the flesh Doctor - 38.40ish on the iplayer.

He says, "Pushing me...but only when she tells you to." Made no sense at the time but I'm guessing he's referring to eyepatch lady.

Actually isn't it

"Push Amy... but only when she tells you to"

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smoothe

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What does Flesh Doctor say immediately after that to Real Doctor? I listened about four times and couldn't make it out.

"Well, my death arrives I suppose?"

The whole final scene was really hard to hear the lines for. Strange that it's

cybermen

coming back next week, because the thing between her legs at 44:25 really looked like a Dalek eye to me!

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Aardvark

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Okay my theories for this season have been mostly torpedoed, but that's a good thing. I guess I was right that a version of Amy was pregnant while another wasn't, it's just it appears to be fleshy-weshy rather than timey-wimey.

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Ravern

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How did the Doctor on the roof, the one who got knocked unconscious, have a sonic screwdriver, at the same time the other Doctor, the one trapped in the room by Rory and Jen, have one too?

Gangers have everything replicated, including clothing.

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Nick R

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No objection to Hologram Phone Call Kid being the reason for the Gangers mellowing out. Problem was that he came across like a combination of

and
!

Why do vicious shape-shifting monsters always morph into lumbering forms that have the drawback of being slower than their human disguises? :ph34r:

It was a bit of a messy episode in some ways, and I didn't think much of some plot contrivances: Rory locking the door on Amy and co; everyone spending ages talking with the castle about to explode and Gangermonster-Jennifer trying to kill them; and, as JohnC posted, the convenience of only one version of each character being left alive at the end. But it was entertaining, the two Doctors' interactions were as much fun as expected, and the cliffhanger at the end was great.

The ones in the monestry only went independent due to the Sun Wave - up until then they'd been puppets just like Amy...

But then the episodes kept implying the Flesh remembered being used a puppet, and remembered the deaths - so even killing an "Avatar" seemed to be "counter message" at the end.

Yes, I agree it seemed a bit of a contradiction. The "their eyes asked why" conversations and the whole scene with the abandoned Gangers thrown into a pile implied that they always had individual identities and memories, even when they just seemed to be remote-controlled puppets before the storm hit.

What does Flesh Doctor say immediately after that to Real Doctor? I listened about four times and couldn't make it out.

I've had a real problem hearing the lines in these last two episodes, too - much more so than in the past when everyone except me was complaining about the volume of the music. Maybe it's due to the fact so much was filmed on location?

Fortunately, iPlayer has subtitles:

Ganger-Doctor: "Well, my death arrives, I suppose."

Doctor: "But this one we're not invited to."

GD: "Pardon?"

D: "Nothing. Your molecular memory can survive this, you know. It may not be the end."

GD: "Well if I turn up to nick all your biscuits you'll know you were right, won't you."

Then a few lines later:

Ganger-Doctor: "There may be a way back from this."

Ganger-Cleaves: "From being vaporised? How?"

GD: "Don't know, let's find out."

That "we're not invited"/"pardon?"/"nothing" exchange suggests that the Doctor's observed his Ganger's death before... :sherlock:

EDIT - :doh: I'd forgotten that Amy told him about it earlier episode - that explains why the original knew and the other didn't.

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That "we're not invited"/"pardon?"/"nothing" exchange suggests that the Doctor's observed his Ganger's death before... :sherlock:

I thought that was just an aside after Amy spilled the beans to him earlier about being invited to see him die in Arizona.

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mdn2

mdn2

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Also, if the castle was going to explode anyway, why not all get in the tardis and fuck off and leave the evil ganger to die in the explosion without sacrificing the ganger doctor and woman?

Yeah, I didn't quite get that. If the screwdriver worked in turning the ganger back to goo, why didn't the real Doctor do it and save the other two? Having two Doctors would have made for an interesting few weeks - they killed him too quickly.

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I thought that was just an aside after Amy spilled the beans to him earlier about being invited to see him die in Arizona.

That seems to make most sense. I suppose a way of confirming it was Real-Doc that Amy revealed that to. Though it was really hard to make anything out that scene.

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Just went back and listened to the weird bit where Amy hugs the flesh Doctor - 38.40ish on the iplayer.

He says, "Pushing me...but only when she tells you to." Made no sense at the time but I'm guessing he's referring to eyepatch lady.

"Push Amy" not pushing me

Edit - Sorry just noticed this has been covered.

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Space Renegade Ulala

Space Renegade Ulala

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WTF!

Why did I look :( What a tit :(

Oh shush, if half the cast entries entered into IMDB over the years were true, you'd have seen Sydney Bristow teaming up with Buffy Summers and Sarah Connor in the season finale of Psychoville, Rita Fairclough would have been revealed as the criminal mastermind in Luther and Bruce Fucking Lee surprised everyone by showing up in the season opener of Burn Notice.

"Don't believe the IMDB, the IMDB lies."*

* When it comes to stuff not yet aired anyway!

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