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Yeah not really that strong. I'm not quite sure why - there was nothing clearly wrong, it just miss-fired on pretty much all fronts.

The premise/setting was a bit weak and poorly explained - and the whole thing was "The Thing" for kids, with a smattering of the ColdBlood two parter from last year thrown in. If that's the episode it most remined me off - it really must of been poor!

Is this the solution to the "problem" left over by the first episode then :)

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"They're just the same as you!"

Psychotic bint kills one clearly against the wishes of everyone else there.

"DESTROY ALL HUMANS!"

Erm yeah...

I think the point was supposed to be that the killing made it clear that it was "us and them" rather than it being possible that they could live together. I know it wasn't the most subtle of racial allegories (we all come from the same flesh, we all share the same human experience, and we just need to recognise that in order to live, but some people will sow false discord with their blinkered narrow views, etc.) but it did tie together.

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I think the point was supposed to be that the killing made it clear that it was "us and them" rather than it being possible that they could live together. I know it wasn't the most subtle of racial allegories (we all come from the same flesh, we all share the same human experience, and we just need to recognise that in order to live, but some people will sow false discord with their blinkered narrow views, etc.) but it did tie together.

But all it did was make it clear that it was only "one of us" that thought it was "us and them". The rest of us (all of them, including Cleves-Ganger!) seemed to be ok to at least try and work together.

And why was Jen-Ganger the one now leading the human-slaughter - surely it should be Cleves-Ganger would be all "Them or Us"?

Edit - That made far more sense in my head! Blood them/us/we/you/they!

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I thought it could have worked as a one-parter...maybe.

I agree with some of the comments. Nothing overtly horribly wrong with it, just sort of meh.

The usual way this kind of episode would go would be

1. Setup, then incident

2. Gangers and humans separated, gangers stage sneak attacks on human.

3. Doctor confronts gangers.

4. Gangers either go in peace, or stay defiant and the Doctor is forced to 'deal' with them.

But this episode was all over the place. Usually the 'but we're just as human as you' sob stories would be reserved for later in the story, as would the two sides meeting each other. In this one they were together and apart and together again back and forth. Messy.

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The premise/setting was a bit weak and poorly explained - and the whole thing was "The Thing" for kids, with a smattering of the ColdBlood two parter from last year thrown in. If that's the episode it most remined me off - it really must of been poor!

Yeah it reminded me of Cold Blooded a little as well (beyond the they decided this was worth a two parter? factor).

Humans hole up in church to escape the monsters.

Tentative peace with 'not really evil' monsters ruined due to emotional human woman killing one of them.

Rory and Amy separated and constantly searching for each other.

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Yeah it reminded me of Cold Blooded a little as well (beyond the they decided this was worth a two parter? factor).

Humans hole up in church to escape the monsters.

Tentative peace with 'not really evil' monsters ruined due to emotional human woman killing one of them.

Rory and Amy separated and constantly searching for each other.

If Rory dies again, it'll start to look really similar...actually, Rory dies in most episodes these days.

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They made this a two parter, but squeezed the last episode into a single slot? This week's was ok, in every sense of the word- nothing inspired, pretty oldschool Dr vs Enemies schtick. But after last week's I had high hopes and it's annnoying the anticipation won't be there next saturday.

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If Rory dies again, it'll start to look really similar...actually, Rory dies in most episodes these days.

Yeah. I was really expecting him to "shockingly" get an acid bath and turn out to be a Ganger.

I think the point was that Rory WAS an Auton, and that was why he connected with the Flesh girl - but I wish it had been a bit more telegraphed in the episode.

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I think Steven Moffat might not be a great showrunner, on balance. When he's writing, it's absolutely fantastic. However, when he's not we get shit like this, the Cold Blood parter from last year and the second episode of Sherlock.

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