Doctor Who

[Frosty]

lolwut

Most of all the part where you complain about a children's show not having a scene where the lovely kind and wonderful magic Doctor man doesn't stick his willy into his spaceship.

[Harsin]

I don't agree with M.Hulot's criticisms and thought this was a superb episode, but I don't agree that Doctor Who is a 'children's show' (although I could understand people thinking that during some of the RTD years with its burping wheelie-bins and farting aliens in unconvincing rubber suits, then it would swing to the other extreme and have a blow-job dispensing paving slab). It's a family show, a show that can appeal to all ages. If it was children's show then it would be on a 4:30pm on a Thursday on CBBC not primetime on a Saturday night. I certainly don't think The Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon could be considered a children's show by any metric.

As to this console room argument, one of the reasons they cited for redesigning the Tardis interior when Moffat took over was that the Eccleston/Tennant set didn't look too hot in HD (indeed I noticed that it was pretty dimly lit in yesterday's episode, presumably to hide a multitude of sins). Christ know what one of the old series sets (if the BBC even have them in the archives) would look like in HD, let alone something that a fan has built in their garage.

[Hulot]

Most of all the part where you complain about a children's show not having a scene where the lovely kind and wonderful magic Doctor man doesn't stick his willy into his spaceship.

If you're going to be perverse enough to suggest such a union then you have to go the whole hog, rather than hide behind euphemisms and a transparent substitute as Gaiman did - I take it such tonal clangers as "I'm sexy" passed you by, or do you actually think such lines are par for the course in what you've called a children's show? If so, I imagine you're looking forward to CBBC's forthcoming repeats of Six Feet Under.

I thought the idea of exploring the 'love' between Doctor and TARDIS was essentially cobblers, but as Gaiman went ahead and advanced it anyway I think it only fair that it be noted that he did not put his money where his mouth is. Again, an instance of the programme clumsily wanting to have it both ways.

[Frosty]

I was exaggerating - but hang on, a family show is equally suitable?

I'm more worried about why you think a little bit of coy suggestion and what was effectively a gag about the Doctor being such a nerd he loves his spaceship as much or even more than his companions necessarily means that the show is copping out in someway when it doesn't become some insane David Cronenberg torture sex romp.

Have you spoken to your therapist about this?

[Fury4k]

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[Flub]

I'm starting to figure it out now. Hulot is the Absorbalof. I'm still not sure which one of us should be getting the paving slab blowjob though. Who likes ELO?

What? I thought we were having a game of Love and Monsters.

[whizzo]

Ah the wonders of the internet - where the vast majority of people can come together and agree that the last episode of Dr Who was one of the best ever.

What really? Thought it was a bit shit to be honest.

[Mr Cochese]

It's gone a bit "burn the heretic!" in here, guys.

[whizzo]

Well Obviously.

[SonOfSoAngry]

Don't we have a resident deranged RTD/Tennant champion to come charging in and accuse the characters of lacking depth because it doesn't descend into shrieking mawkish melodrama every fifteen minutes? There's plenty over at digital spy...

[Eighthours]

Hulot is Lawrence Miles?

[Fury4k]

On 5/15/2011 at 15:55, whizzo said:

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[whizzo]

It doesnt.

[Creamstick]

Double yawn at such absolute nonsense *SNIP*

This entire post is fucking amazing if you read it in Noel Coward's voice.

[Nick R]

[Frosty]

The Harry Kim of the Whoniverse.

[lordcookie]

Amy's Choice.

[lordcookie]

Not sure if this needs to be spoilered seeing it is from an old episode but just in case...

Regarding Amy's Choice:

He gets attacked and dissolves into dust, Amy then says any world without Rory in isn't the real one so she and the Doctor 'kill' themselves using the van.

[Venice Cull]

Y'all gonna hate. But I DO wish Rory would 'get it' - I just don't particularly dig the character, and he kind of takes away from the purity of the whole 'Dr/Assistant' dynamic - AND, the writers have to find something for him to do each week with regard to the story. Hence, I think, him either being killed, getting jealous or acting confused. That's pretty much it - the writers have written themselves into a corner, because they can't develop the Amy/Dr dynamic without the lead character coming off as 'nasty'.

I realise that as Dr Who he'll never 'get it on' with the assistant, but having a devoted Rory tagging along every episode does completely remove that possibility from the table - it's like having Muldur hang around with Skully's husband all the time.

My reservations about Amy (or rather, the actress) have evaporated this series as well - she's very much reigned in the over-acting that tainted her performance last season (anyone else noticed that?).

[lordcookie]

But thats the dissolved death, not the shot one. Unless they count that twice, for some reason.

Sorry I was being an idiot, when you said 'shot' I thought you meant the first picture in the gif not shot with a weapon. It was from Cold Blood, the second part of the Silurian story.

[SeanR]

I was loading the dishwasher and I realised what it reminded me of:

and

[BigShimmeryWall]

You've got a bloody weird dishwasher.

[SeanR]

You've got a bloody weird dishwasher.

it's bigger on the inside.

[Space Gibbon]

I think Rory is necessary (and good, also) because this season is going to be less about Doctor-Amy dynamic and more about Doctor-Tardis-River, I assume. So Amy needs someone to hang with while the Doctor learns Earth-shattering truths.

[Harsin]

Give me Rory and Amy over Rose and Martha's "I wuv you Doctor" act anytime.

[Frosty]

I like Rory. The sort of love-triangle dynamic is quite nice and actually works to diffuse the ever-present "Isn't the Doctor a bit of a perve hanging around with all these young girls". It also means the Doctor has someone who isn't exactly fawning over him and may even be willing to challenge him over certain things.

I think it also helps with this Doctor being seen more as an eccentric geography teacher taking his class of kids on a field trip.

[noob]

i thought it was quite simply, superb. their conversation at the end had me in absolute tears.

[El Pibe]

I loved it, especially the first part with the Frenchman and the country bumpkin. I thought it really felt like 'Who'.

Good stuff.

[Yix]

I think I've just realised who the Doctor has become.

Commander John Crichton.

No no no, think about it; clever, respectable but alien. Contrived love circle. Gets to do the whole "let's talk about Earth" but is out of place with his surroundings. Figures stuff out with the derision but eventual acceptance of his companions, and usually with some arm-flailing. Knows the most of everyone else around but features glaring faults that his companions get to riff off so the audience can empathise with them. Even teenage Crichton looked kinda like him:

Needs a bigger nose.

Oh, fine, he's nothing like Crichton. Fuck off.

[MDY]

Nah, I think there's something to that. But more than that I think nuWho feels a LOT like Farscape in general.. The bright colours of the sets, the tendency to do stuff 'cos it's cool and not worry so much about it being explainable, but especially the manic energy of that show. Crichton became increasingly.. unhinged as the show progressed, but he was usually able to deliver, despite the borderline madness. I just wish we'd get some Farscape quality animatronic aliens in Who..