Doctor Who

[El Pibe]

I disagree!

Some good bits in there, though, amongst all the rubbish. I'm also excited about finding out what will happen with the regeneration.

[:mediadavid:]

I thought the FS - other than the mobile phone signals eminating from earth - were really good.

I liked that bit. It was clearly a 'homage'. The music was also really good on those bits.

[JohnC]

I don't think so. They're just cool-sounding names that we'll never get to see due to budgetary and imagination constraints! Remember the end of that ep a year back when the Doctor "punished" everyone involved, with evocative descriptions of stuff that we never saw but really wanted to, cos they sounded a lot better than anything we do get on-screen?

Like that.

Wasn't the thingy Cascade such a thing, and we have seen that now. Perhaps the Shadow Proclamation could be thought of in a similar way, something he mentioned but didn't really expect to see.

You mean the fleet that was made of massive ships, that then turned out to be smaller than car sized when they attacked Manhattan?

I wonder if it is at all possible that the Dalek race has more than one kind of ship? It's not like every human has an identical Ford Mondeo.

[Hexx]

Yay, lets be friends

I'm having the second annual Cassidy Who finale bash this weekend. Cant wait, as it'll also be Rockband for the duration of the evening

Can I come? None of my so called friends like Doctor Who

[cassidy]

Can I come? None of my so called friends like Doctor Who

well there's plenty of gay men gonna be there

[scottcr]

That's just a load of crap. We've learned loads about Donna and what she's about.

I can't read his site - too many words for my tiny attention span. He does sound a bit bitter though.

I'd hate to see a series penned by him...

[scottcr]

watched Stolen Earth again - brilliant stuff.

I'll never tire of the Daleks... Davros was excellent and series 3 has completely and utterly redeemed itself by having the most consistently awesome run of episodes since the series came back. From Agatha Christie to Stolen Earth... every one has been excellent.

I just hope (although it's futile) that there's not a huge reset button hit next episode. This story could easily have been spread over a number of episodes.

[Scribblor]

I tire of the Daleks. Every five minutes they're there, in New Who. I'd say I want RTD to come up with something else, but the Cybermen were rubbish, and the Master (John Simms, not Derek Jacobi) was pretty dire too, so maybe he's better off sticking to the pepper pots.

Davros, on the other hand, is fantastic. And I guess you can't have him on his own, so you've got to take the good with the bad.

[Ravern]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. NEW ENEMIES PLEASE. Though anything is better than Cybermen and Slitheen.

[Garwoofoo]

series 3 has completely and utterly redeemed itself by having the most consistently awesome run of episodes since the series came back. From Agatha Christie to Stolen Earth... every one has been excellent.

I still don't think anything can beat Human Nature, Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia in a row, but series 4 has picked up at last. On the other hand, it had The Doctor's Daughter, which I think for me is the single worst episode since Who came back, worse by far than Fear Her or any of the previous greatest stinkers.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

It seems that every season of New Who has this dichotomy of better first half or better second half, apart from the first of them with Eccleston, which spread the good ones around.

S4's first half was boring and formulaic, largely (with the Sontaran episode being a highlight) but the second half has been consistently entertaining.

I also tire of the Daleks (can they not be given a rest for one season at least? Their inclusion in S2 was ridiculous and detrimental to the story) but Davros is great.

I just wish the Daleks would rid themselves of this newly acquired habit to shout EXTERMINATE a good half-dozen times before actually firing. What happened to it being yelled once and then a beam of insta-death shooting out? That was much better.

[Boyatsea]

I just wish the Daleks would rid themselves of this newly acquired habit to shout EXTERMINATE a good half-dozen times before actually firing. What happened to it being yelled once and then a beam of insta-death shooting out? That was much better.

If anything, they've calmed down.

Watch any Daleks story from the 80s, and they shout it for hours before doing it.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

Maybe I was spoiled with Dalek and Parting of the Ways, then.

They were so much more suave and restrained there.

[Boyatsea]

Maybe I was spoiled with Dalek and Parting of the Ways, then.

They were so much more suave and restrained there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BuWFXYcDk4

[JPickford]

The millionth time I know but:

[Rudi von Starnberg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BuWFXYcDk4

Christ!

And to think people complain about Murray Gold's music.

[Boyatsea]

Nice reimaginging here -

Music works really well.

[Corporal Flashback]

Christ!

And to think people complain about Murray Gold's music.

ScrewwwwwwWWWWW yoooooouuuu.

[Boyatsea]

Christ. I just had one of those moments.

I just sat down to watch The Stolen Earth for the third time, and it suddenly hit me. In that scene where the TARDIS is being pulled towards the earth by all those phone calls.. that's the TARDIS. It only lasted a second, but, it suddenly hit me that that's the same TARDIS I saw landing on Castrovalva, or splitting up into four seperate TARDISes at the end of The Five Doctors.

I was too young to have my own Doctor, so to speak. Doctor Who was cancelled just as I was reaching the age where I'd have just been getting into it. So I survived by watching by elder brother's videos of stories - mainly Peter Davison, Tom Baker, Colin Baker and a few of Slyvester McCoy. I used to love watching them, but my enjoyment was always tainted by the fact that there was no hope of the series coming back. And, even if it did, it would flop hideously, because Doctor Who was just about the most uncool thing you could ever admit to liking at school.

And here we are, watching a fucking amazing episode in 2008. Doctor Who is bloody huge, and that's the same TARDIS and.. well, Doctor Who is bloody huge! It just strikes me every now and again. We're living in a dream, fellas.

[Mogster]

Christ. I just had one of those moments.

I just sat down to watch The Stolen Earth for the third time, and it suddenly hit me. In that scene where the TARDIS is being pulled towards the earth by all those phone calls.. that's the TARDIS. It only lasted a second, but, it suddenly hit me that that's the same TARDIS I saw landing on Castrovalva, or splitting up into four seperate TARDISes at the end of The Five Doctors.

I was too young to have my own Doctor, so to speak. Doctor Who was cancelled just as I was reaching the age where I'd have just been getting into it. So I survived by watching by elder brother's videos of stories - mainly Peter Davison, Tom Baker, Colin Baker and a few of Slyvester McCoy. I used to love watching them, but my enjoyment was always tainted by the fact that there was no hope of the series coming back. And, even if it did, it would flop hideously, because Doctor Who was just about the most uncool thing you could ever admit to liking at school.

And here we are, watching a fucking amazing episode in 2008. Doctor Who is bloody huge, and that's the same TARDIS and.. well, Doctor Who is bloody huge! It just strikes me every now and again. We're living in a dream, fellas.

Sadly I'd never been much of a Doctor Who fan before the new series. I was born shortly before the series was cancelled, so I couldn't watch it at the time. I saw the TV movie when it was on, and enjoyed it, but it wasn't until the first season of new Who that I started watching the old ones. 28 classic DVDs later, and I've gone some way to rectifying that. It's still my favourite TV show in the world, and specials aside I'm going to miss it next year.

[zxcvbnm]

I'm enough of a grizzly old to have Tom Baker and Peter Davidson as "my" doctors. I'd be glued to the screen watching those, but didn't like Colin Baker so only watched it occasionally, and Syslvester McCoy, but mostly Sophie Aldred, killed off who for me.

I'm loving the new series and they're easily as good, and quite often better, than the originals I watched in the 70s and 80s.

[c-cat114]

I'm so old it was Tom Baker all the way for me. I did like Colin Baker though, Peter Davidson was OK, but not great... Sylvester McCoy was potentially my favourite - certainly the most entertaining to watch being interviewed he seems like a really awesome person, yet suffered with the worst assitants and scripts.

But yeah, it's nice that Who is cool again. That's a big positive.

I tire of the Daleks. Every five minutes they're there, in New Who. I'd say I want RTD to come up with something else, but the Cybermen were rubbish, and the Master (John Simms, not Derek Jacobi) was pretty dire too, so maybe he's better off sticking to the pepper pots.

Davros, on the other hand, is fantastic. And I guess you can't have him on his own, so you've got to take the good with the bad.

Daleks are great, just overused and poorly paced out within the series (and very badly served by Travesty/Evolution). I hope that next series doesn't have them in, or has them as a hint throughout moving into the specials. I LOVE the design of the Cybermen, and didn't hate the eps, but again they could have been better used. I look forward to future stories with them in though, just please God not idiot half girl, half cyberwoman ((10% metal bikini)) rubbish ever again please.

The Master, and the master eps, were awful though, and the one negative I would have had with Stolen Earth was the... pastiche?/inability to move away from the "I believe in fairies" crap of last years finale. As soon as they said everyone text this number I thought it was going to be as pathetic as last years reset. Derek Jacobi's Master was aces. In the back of my mind I'd hope that that would be who would be lined up next for the Doctor but I know it'd never happen - not trendy enough for the demographic etc.

Donna's all sorts of aces though. It's come to the point that I'd be far, FAR sadder to see her leave the series than Tennant. And I like Tennant's Doctor loads.

[Scribblor]

Meh, I don't give two hoots for Donna. I've got nothing massively against her any more, although I detested her in The Runaway Bride and the first few episodes. I just don't care about her. She's my least favourite of the new companions. I'm not one of these "she's dreadful, she can't act and all she does is mug for the camera and she's got fat tits" people, she just leaves me a bit disinterested.

I've surprised myself this series by really wanting the Doctor and Rose to meet again (since when she was the companion, she annoyed the hell out of me at times), but I think that because of the Doctor's feelings for Rose I want to see them together and happy for a bit, even though I know it won't happen.

I remember Peter Davidson being 'my' Doctor, but looking at the dates, that's unlikely, as I should have been too young to watch Doctor Who when he was in it. Colin Baker should have been the one I remember, but I can barely recall any of the episodes he was in. Sylvester McCoy I remember much more, but with little fondness. Maybe I watched them on repeat in the mid to late eighties and that's why I remember Davidson so well? Were they repeated?

[El Pibe]

The Donna split is very funny. Personally, I am sick to death of her and cannot wait for her to go. The idea is right, but Tate is just an awful actress, IMO.

[Lorfarius]

Were they repeated?

Of course. Its the BBC.

[Boyatsea]

Donna is fast becoming my favourite assistant, full stop.

[Scribblor]

Of course. Its the BBC.

That'll be it then.

[scottcr]

Donna is fast becoming my favourite assistant, full stop.

mine too... and this is from someone who couldn't stand her at first.

Seeing Rose and Martha back has demonstrated just how much better she is and how sick I was of Rose by the end of series 2. Rose is also a bit 'too cool for school' now with her posing and funny mouth.

[AK Bell]

Rose is also a bit 'too cool for school' now with her posing and funny mouth and new disturbing lisp.

So what are we thinking? Possible unneeded botox + goofy teeth = speech impediment?

[Not Thread Owner]

Tate is ten times better than I expected her to be. Sadly, my expectation was so low to begin with, that ten times that is still barely anything at all. At best, she's tolerable.

So what are we thinking? Possible unneeded botox + goofy teeth = speech impediment?

I'm still wondering if it's actually plot related...