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Martha's Mum might was tad over-protective but she was pretty much spot on from her perspective. Her Dad was a child by comparison.

I just think RTD has created some very credible characters here with very human reactions to the Doctor turning up in their daughters lives.

Spot on.

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Poor. Very poor. Why 1 episode of Davros and not 3? Who gives a flying fuck about donna noble? Considering the extent of the licence fee, this is absolutely attrocious.

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Just when you think you've met all the nutters on the planets....

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Okay, it's time for crackpot theories and the funnest one I've heard today is:

"Perhaps the reason why Donna is so important in the grand timey-wimey scheme of things is because she is an owner of a certain type of pocketwatch."

No, that wouldn't make a heck of a lot of sense but it would be kinda interesting regardless.

Question: wouldn't those snazzily dressed Broadway Daleks and pigdude chums from the 30s have taken over the world?

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Nahh, Torchwood Bronx took 'em out.

Personally I think making up stories like this, about why all the various plans in the past we've seen never succeeded, is half the fun of the episode. It almost seemed to be an underlying theme here that without the Doctor, a lot of the time evil plans still didn't succeed but things got worse and people died, which I thought could be happily extrapolated to things like The Shakespeare Code or The Voyage of the Damned for hours of childish fun. I think plotholes like that are more gaps than holes, really, and I'm happy they exist.

And I thought it was the very best television episode since the show returned by a large margin. The number of things it made look effortless is amazing; there were so many brilliant character moments here. I think RTD's ability to write real people is by far his greatest strength, and it's in evidence here to an extent I haven't seen since series 1. It felt like all the things I missed about the Eccleston days were back.

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I have to say that episode was ace. And so, so dark. It's not very often that tea time kids TV touches on things like concentration camps, the nuking of our capital city, the death of 60million yanks,the wiping out of subsidiary characters from all other connected shows - including the kids - and the ultimate act of self sacrifice that no one will ever be aware of.

Quite literally it was brilliant. And as for the trailer for the double finale - I was quite simply agog. Sat staring at the tv for some time in just crazy anticipation. Oh, and the music throughout this episode was brilliant too.

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That's an exciting trailer. Anyone care to be incredibly geeky and try and explain why the daleks are back? I thought they were all in "Hell" bar those 3 from the crappy new york episodes.

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hey, remember when I said (after the end of the shakespeare code) how Queen Liz, chasing after the doctor, sounded like a dalek, and that she could be davros?

I did a photoshop as well.

Anyway, at the end of yesterdays preview of next week, right at the end, was a white-haired woman saying "come back doctor" in the same style as Liz the first at the end of TSC.

What's up with that?

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I really enjoyed that episode if you ignore the crappy beetle. Even Donna's shouty 'jokes' were justified as her character has mellowed a lot since she has been with the Doctor so if she never met him she just reverts back to her old shitty personality.

I didn't think much to the trailer for the next episode though. It just seemed too big and too full of established characters. Perhaps if the show had a better track record with the two-part finales I might be a bit more optimistic. I hope I'm wrong though as the season has had a big upturn since episode 8 onwards (although it couldn't have gotten any worse).

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That's an exciting trailer. Anyone care to be incredibly geeky and try and explain why the daleks are back? I thought they were all in "Hell" bar those 3 from the crappy new york episodes.

There's one left over from them (Caan?). My guess is the use of the Dalek theme was a clue, and the concentration camps are actually dalekation camps. But probably not called that. And then they're brought through from the parallel world somehow or other.

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that was brilliant.

Faith in Who completely and utterly restored. CT was excellent in that episode - once again proving that it's the scripts and directors that let her down at the beginning of this series.

Bernard Cribbens has the best face in the world - he almost makes me cry every time he looks a bit sad.

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CT was excellent in that episode - once again proving that it's the scripts and directors that let her down at the beginning of this series.

I don't get this. I thought she was good from the start, and awesome from Fire of Pompy.

I need to make a Time Machine for to make it next week...

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nah - she was far far too shouty with overuse of the word "SUNSHINE!" - with the low point being (can't remember which episode) "COOL THE BEANS RAMBO!"

She didn't really get particularly good until the Agatha Christie one.

Oh - btw - about last nights. Rose sounds like she's got false teeth... it was ridiculous. I read online that she got veneers done.

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I'm well aware that this is likely to make me sound like an utter twat to a lot of people, but I'm going to say it anyway:

I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who thought that Turn Left was a bad episode of Doctor Who.

The people I feel sorry for are those people who can't appreciate an opinion that differs from their own.

I'm actually looking forward to the final 2, but God knows why, given the track record of the previous finales.

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