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Oh God, I bloody hope not. That would be badness on an unimaginable scale. Almost as bad as that forum who all thought Johnny Vegas would make a brilliant Doctor, as opposed to a indescribably terrible one.

Johnny Vegas would be amazing. He's a brilliant actor.

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Johnny Vegas would be amazing. He's a brilliant actor.

Ooh, what's he been good in? I'm basing my opinions on adverts for that channel 4 show where he poured eggs down his face, so yes, I might be very wrong about him. I can't help feeling that he might just be too against type to work, though, although he'd certainly be a contrast to David Tennant.

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Ooh, what's he been good in? I'm basing my opinions on adverts for that channel 4 show where he poured eggs down his face, so yes, I might be very wrong about him. I can't help feeling that he might just be too against type to work, though, although he'd certainly be a contrast to David Tennant.

Oh he'll never get the role and he would be very different but I think he's a superb actor.

Watch him in the Paul Whitehouse thing (Happiness?), some of the scenes with his kids will make you cry.

He apparently nearly got the role of Sam in LOTR which he would have been perfect for. Why they went with the American bloke I'll never know.

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htey arent axons they are called "The Host" according to Radio Times

It's not The Master, it's Mr Saxon! :angry:

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Blog entry from Off the Telly about Torchwood series 2 - I wouldn't say there are any real spoilers in there but just in case...

03 December 2007

"I'LL JUST WANK OFF IANTO"

Those words spoken, of course, by John Barrowman at this morning’s press launch for series two of Torchwood (TX-ing from mid January on BBC2). This was as he sat down next to Gareth David-Lloyd in the screening room. The first actual words spoken in the second series, though? Oh, go on then - “‘Scuse me, have you seen a blowfish driving a sports car?”

For those who griped about series one last year, there’ll be little to appease them here. Everyone still fancies everyone, it’s violent, glib, swaggering. I think it’s terrifically entertaining (an early scene features James Marsters dressed as Adam Ant, strolling into a nightclub telling all the people he doesn’t fancy to go home). Yes, it’s still a bit silly, but this time out - if anything - it knows that. Later on, Ianto tells Jack to search the roof of a building, commenting that he’s good on roofs. Oh, and right at the start, as the team turn up in pursuit of the aforementioned motoring fish, a witness mutters, “Bloody Torchwood” as they roll on by in the Mystery Machine.

The obvious main headline from the morning, I think, was the fact the show is going to get a pre-watershed repeat, meaning there’ll be a “clean” version in circulation sans the swearing and violence. But not the same sex snogging. That stays in. Oh, and James Marsters - who plays Jack’s former Time Agency colleague - will be returning later in the run. “I’ve found Gray,” he muttered enigmatically, as he disappeared into the rift, setting up this year’s over-arching macguffin - which Jack, of course, refused to talk about.

What else? Well, Andrew Cartmel was in attendance, although I’m guessing purely in the role of an interested onlooker.

As the morning drew on, I interviewed Eve Myles, who was effusive and fun. Gwen gets married this year! And Rhys finds out about her day (or is that night?) job! Would she appear in Doctor Who? “I’m not in the next series,” she said - the qualification piquing my interest, before Barrowman walked over and groped her tits.

Come lunchtime, it was face-to-face with the man himself. Clearly a little tired from the morning’s press activity, he seemed a tad “off-duty” and more candid than normal. Despite the previous incident, there was little innuendo here. As a result, I found him fascinating. I asked him about the slightly frosty fan reaction to series one.

“It’s usually the fan sites that have the problem,” he said. “The public don’t have the problem. You think it would be the other way around. I don’t know what the fan sites want. We try to give them science fiction, we try to give them stories that are bizarre, we try to give them characters who do outrageous things that are off-the-wall. And when you give it to them, they’re still ... I don’t know what it is. What we have to really establish is, we’re not Doctor Who. And if you’re looking for Doctor Who, you’re looking at the wrong show.”

My pet theory is fans are alienated by the overt sexuality in the show. The original run of Who was asexual, making it comfortable viewing for - how can I put this? - those who perhaps aren’t able to express their erotic desires.

“See, I disagree with you,” said Barrowman, “because all the fans I talk to are so glad. The letters that I get, and the emails I get are people saying, ‘Thank goodness for finally representing the omni-sexuality of somebody, because it reflects how I really am!’. So I just think, to be honest, the problem comes from the people from the old school. The new school of the Whovians and the Woodies - I call ‘em - are the ones who are more savvy. The old school are from the classic series. You know what? It’s long gone! It’s a piece of history. It stands on its own. I’m a fan, I love it, I still love watching them. But the new Who, Torchwood? We’re different. You can’t compare us to the other one. And I think that’s where the problem is. Get over it!”

Anyway, I sense I’m rambling a bit now. So I’ll bring this entry to a close with a couple more snippets. Both from Barrowman. First up, he owns every bit of merchandise with his face on it (plus the bullets he shot at that Dalek back in series one). And, two, he seems genuinely unsure if he’ll do a further series of Torchwood. Not that he wants to stop playing Jack, but he seemed to have huge issues with the production of the show.

“We’ll see how things work out, I haven’t made any decisions. If we do get the go-ahead, I’ll really have to sit down and think about it. It’s not the commitment. Honestly, this last series was a bit of a nightmare at times, because of bad scheduling. Because of production things going wrong ...”

# posted by Graham Kibble-White : 4:43 PM

So it's going to be shite again then? I'm actually looking forward to the 'kiddie' edit.

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Torchwood, a show which treats its adult themes so well that they can be entirely edited out without affecting the plot.

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Quick heads up, todays times magazine has a 3 page article on the christmas special with photos of the shooting. It's in the times 2 magazine with David tennant in a dinner jacket and ms minogue wearing her maids outfit.

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It a bit shit that BBC1's big christmas thing is a 45 min(?) episode of Doctor the Who.

but on the other hand, its good for the Doctor Who brand.

71 minutes hactually :lol:

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It says it's unavailable now. But I did just watch a 40 second trailer on the BBC Doctor Who site.

How odd - still working here.

EDIT: Oh wait a minute - are you in the UK? If not that won't work, it's the BBC's YouTube channel, which is only available to people in the UK.

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EDIT: Oh wait a minute - are you in the UK? If not that won't work, it's the BBC's YouTube channel, which is only available to people in the UK.

That'll be it then. Shitehawks won't even allow trailers to be shown.

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Is it the same 40 second trailer that's on the BBC Who site?

[EDIT] Off to check BBCi now.

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That looks fantastic. I know it was in low-res-YouTube-vision, but the effects looked brilliant.

EDIT- Just checked it out on BBCi and it looks even better. Is it being filmed in HD?

Nope Torchwood is though.

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Is it being filmed in HD?

I'm guessing after the break in 2009 they'll start filming in HD - they've always said it was mainly due to time constraints.

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The reason they gave for lack of HD was budgetary - the high number of FX shots in a series of Doctor Who would make the show prohibitively expensive to make. Torchwood is far less FX heavy, hence the reason why that is shot in HD. Agree that this might change by the time the fifth series shoots though.

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I'm guessing after the break in 2009 they'll start filming in HD - they've always said it was mainly due to time constraints.

It's not actually - it's a cost thing. Phil Collinson said in an interview a while back that the BBC approached them about filming in HD, and he said they'd have been willing to do it, but if they did they'd only be able to afford to make a 6-7 episode season, as all the costs are raised when filming a sci-fi show in HD.

EDIT - Dammit. Didn't see the post above. :wub:

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Think this is the sort of quote I remember:

"I think it would take more time for us to do our post-production, and I think it would be more costly. And I genuinely love the look that we've managed to achieve with our [directors of photography] and our grade on 'Doctor Who'," she told The Stage magazine.

http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2007/03/bbc_no_high_def.html

So both reasons then :wub:

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Bah. In my defence, I read through that part of the thread on the Wii. Spoilers take too much time to read, with having to quote the post to see them.

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