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How many more times can the sonic screwdriver save the day?

I'd like to see less of it, but I watched Full Circle the other day, and lo and behold he uses the Sonic Screwdriver to unlock a door. It's always been part of the show - so long as it doesn't "solve" the entire story it's not a deal breaker.

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Boyatsea

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Breaking news

Next weeks episode of Doctor Who titled 42 has been postponed by a week due to the amazingness that is Eurovision. Nice work BBC 1 schedulers.

Good decision, I think.

Better than sticking it on at 6.30pm.

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I think my comment about the year on year new series was more to do with the fact that long shooting schedules and regular long shifts followed by fewer breaks is doing a Life on Mars series 2 and seeing the actors burn out and leave after short runs (of long hours) on their characters... Although that said I do think a longer pre-production phase, especially in the script writing dept wouldn't go amiss. Yes that's the part that isn't working so well and I guess that's down to the people chosen and the time spent on it.

I don't think the series has been a complete Torchwood, there's been lots to like and I do genuinely like Tennant as the Doctor, and I don't see anyone asking for serious university challenge storylines (which would be silly) it's just that cheap and cheerful solutions seem to be below classic Who and I don't think it's wrong to voice the opinion... That said Gallactica manages to capture an excellent realism which while it wouldn't have fully suited Who it would have been nice to see Who learn from.

Also, I'm not bothered about the series threeness of it, I lapped up S3 of Gallactica and always want more, ditto the other long running shows I've a fondness for. This is just a case of it aspiring to fairly specific (and low grade) requirements and not really meeting those. Some elements are ace, some parts of Daleks in Manhattan were laughable and that seems a shame to me.

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I was talking about this story, specifially, and...

...is what you call Science Fiction. The day Doctor Who turns into an Open University lecture is the day I switch off.

He's alien. Who knows what he can do?

But I think science fiction works best when it appears plausible. Lots of the stuff in the new Doctor Who seems hastily contrived to achieve the required pay-off by a writer who hasn't stopped to think 'Does this make some semblance of sense?'

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But I think science fiction works best when it appears plausible. Lots of the stuff in the new Doctor Who seems hastily contrived to achieve the required pay-off by a writer who hasn't stopped to think 'Does this make some semblance of sense?'

See, I never have this problem. I think my brain might be wrong, but if a character in a sci-fi show goes "Quick! We need to do this in order to do this!" I usually just accept it. Maybe it's down to my hatred of physics and science at school, which has left me eager to see smug-faced boffins crying into their equations.

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See, I never have this problem. I think my brain might be wrong, but if a character in a sci-fi show goes "Quick! We need to do this in order to do this!" I usually just accept it. Maybe it's down to my hatred of physics and science at school, which has left me eager to see smug-faced boffins crying into their equations.

Perhaps it all depends on what we personally accept as plausible. What is perfectly acceptable to me might have someone much cleverer shouting 'WELL THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN'.

But still, DNA through electricity. Hmmm...

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it's just that cheap and cheerful solutions seem to be below classic Who

If you look at the history of the series it's full of silly and unbelievable plot devices, even in classic stories. Look at something like City of Death, or that bit in Meglos where they get out of a time loop by going through the motions. Utterly ridiculous, and they started bringing in all this heavy conceptual stuff under Chris Bidmead to compensate (Block Transfer Computation, Tachyonics), which turned the public off in droves.

So long as it's entertaining, I'm ok with pretty much anything, although my natural preference is towards those stories with a more serious tone. So far this series I've been thoroughly entertained, especially by watching Daleks and Pig Men. Riotously entertained even.

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"The Doctor Dances" springs to mind as one of the episodes that has had a plausible and satisfying sci-fi solution.

It's also the best two-parter the revived series has had, and probably my favourite episode (although admittedly I haven't rewatched any of the episodes since they first aired).

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If season 1's "Dalek" hadn't been cribbed from one of the Big Finish audios, you might have had a point. That audio was considered by many to be a high point in the audio range and the tv remake pissed all over it.

In a good way.

Really? Well colour me wrong then, I guess.

"The Doctor Dances" springs to mind as one of the episodes that has had a plausible and satisfying sci-fi solution.

It's also the best two-parter the revived series has had, and probably my favourite episode (although admittedly I haven't rewatched any of the episodes since they first aired).

Definitely. It's one of the very few two-parters that I think didn't have to rely on cheap get-out clauses, I thought the resolution to the cliff-hanger was perfectly fitting, and the line that came after it was hilarious. I've said it before (and I'll say it again, sorry :( ) but the WW2 two parter (I don't like to split it up and look at it as two episodes, as both of its parts fit together and flow into each other so well) is definitely the best story we've had since this new run of Who began.

And what's this, Colin Baker himself agrees with me (check the last bit of the 'Career after Who section)! :P

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Reading through wikipedia (which is a time-sink) made me realise that the character Reg (Chronotis), from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, is a Time Lord. A proper one, due to him being a left over character from Shada. Fantastic.

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Forgot to mention some other good news. You know the annoying girl that everyone hated in Sarah Jane Adventures, Kelsey. Well she be gone.

Thank god for that.

Reading through wikipedia (which is a time-sink) made me realise that the character Reg (Chronotis), from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, is a Time Lord. A proper one, due to him being a left over character from Shada. Fantastic.

Wow. And there's an episode called '42'. And the Doctor is 'not alone'. So that means...

*head explodes*

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Reading through wikipedia (which is a time-sink) made me realise that the character Reg (Chronotis), from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, is a Time Lord. A proper one, due to him being a left over character from Shada. Fantastic.

OT: But related. I recently read American Gods which is a total rip-off of another Dirk Gently novel.

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I was talking about this story, specifially, and...

...is what you call Science Fiction. The day Doctor Who turns into an Open University lecture is the day I switch off.

He's alien. Who knows what he can do?

Yeah, he should fly around shooting lasers out of his eyes while he's at it. :(

"The Doctor Dances" springs to mind as one of the episodes that has had a plausible and satisfying sci-fi solution.

Yes, yes, yes. Loved that. :(

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On a gaming note, I recently "acquired" Destiny of the Doctors, the 1997 PC game, and it is ropey as hell but kind of charming. Nice to be able to walk around a TARDIS.

It works on XP too. No issues at all for me.

Worth playing to see Ainley as the Master one last time and to hear the new dialogue from the other doctors.

anyone want a copy can pm me...

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Heads up for you.

Dont switch straight over to Confidential following tomorrows Who. Apparently the BBC have a special treat lined up for us straight after the episode. No clue what it is. but some people on OG think it may be a party political broadcast by Mr Saxon.

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Heads up for you.

Dont switch straight over to Confidential following tomorrows Who. Apparently the BBC have a special treat lined up for us straight after the episode. No clue what it is. but some people on OG think it may be a party political broadcast by Mr Saxon.

The special treat is that Who isn't even on tomorrow.

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OT: But related. I recently read American Gods which is a total rip-off of another Dirk Gently novel.

Apart from the fact they share the central premise of ancient gods still being around in the modern world, I can't think of many other similarities. Not enough to call it a rip-off!

Although Neil Gaiman did write a biography of Douglas Adams. :angry:

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this has been th best of the new season so far.

Go on Doctor Who you rule. Doctor Who pisses on american sci fi from a height. Fuck Lost and Heroes, huzzah for 2000AD.

Come on guys a bit of pride in our mighty United Kingdom's output!

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Heads up for you.

Dont switch straight over to Confidential following tomorrows Who. Apparently the BBC have a special treat lined up for us straight after the episode. No clue what it is. but some people on OG think it may be a party political broadcast by Mr Saxon.

I'm going to cum.

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