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Wasn't looking forward to this. I thought New Earth was terrible, and I disliked the cat-people as a race (better make-up, but Red Dwarf did it first and better), but this was pretty damn good. Best one so far this series.

The first scenes in the under city were a bit suspect - when the drug-sellers opened their hatches the camera switched to jaunty angles like it was going to turn into a musical or something, but once the story moved onto the motorway it was great. Loved the fact that they dropped the Macra in there - nice little nod to classic Who.

Was there a Saxon reference this week?

Good episode 3's looks to be something of a trend in the new series. Like even-numbered Trek movies.

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Actually, considering I'm looking forward to watching the video of this back, it was probably a fair bit better than I thought at the time. That happened for me with Smith & Jones, funnily enough. So much happens in 45 mins of Who that you have to let your brain settle and watch it through again to fully rate it.

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Thinking about it (a bit, not much - say, 5 bottles of beer worth of thinking), the pot luck aspect of Dr Who is one of the things I find appealing about it. Will it be good this week, or will it be shit? Will it be funny? Scary? Historical? Futuristic? Will there be scarecrows? Yes, there will. But will they be any good? And so on.

Not enjoying the odd episode is the price we pay for having a show that can go anywhere and do anything I suppose.

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Preachy? Hmmm, I suppose the whole LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD BECOME angle with the traffic jam theme could be taken that way, but I just took it as a fairly logical "what if" scenario which had a lot of opportunity for tension and humour. It certainly felt fairly frivolous in tone at times, but joyfully so, to me at least.

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Oh come on, how can it have annoyed you that much? What bugged you so much about it?

Where to start? Maybe with that Cruiser-like tantrum to the vendors. Yet more evidence Tennant is just not a very good doctor. Result - supporting cast and plot come under greater scrutiny. Not great timing.

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Just out of interest, can anyone confirm the furthest forward / backward in time The Doctor's ever travelled?

On TV, the furthest backward in time the Doctor's travelled was to Event One, the beginning of the Universe, when the TARDIS was programmed to travel back then by Adric (under the influence of the Master) in Peter Davison's first story, Castrovalva. But the TARDIS never actually landed there, so the earliest TARDIS landing is c. 400,000,000 BC, on primordial Earth, in the 1979 Tom Baker story, City of Death.

The furthest forward in time would either be The Ark (William Hartnell story from 1965) or Frontios (Peter Davison story from 1984), both of which take place c. 10,000,000 AD. In Frontios, travelling any further in time would be to exceed the TARDIS' 'time parameters'. Of course, these might no longer apply after the destruction of Gallifrey, so the new series might well be further forward in time than the Doctor's ever gone before.

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Where to start? Maybe with that Cruiser-like tantrum to the vendors. Yet more evidence Tennant is just not a very good doctor. Result - supporting cast and plot come under greater scrutiny. Not great timing.

Yeah, Tennant needs to Get His Shout On less often. Under the right circumstances it can add an edginess, but the more they use it the more I get the feeling The Doctor is simply a complete psychopath.

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The furthest forward in time would either be The Ark (William Hartnell story from 1965) or Frontios (Peter Davison story from 1984), both of which take place c. 10,000,000 AD. In Frontios, travelling any further in time would be to exceed the TARDIS' 'time parameters'. Of course, these might no longer apply after the destruction of Gallifrey, so the new series might well be further forward in time than the Doctor's ever gone before.

New Earth is 5,000,000,000 BC, I think.

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Yeah, Tennant needs to Get His Shout On less often. Under the right circumstances it can add an edginess, but the more they use it the more I get the feeling The Doctor is simply a complete psychopath.

It's those silly threats, like there's one every episode. Not even a psycopath, just an attention seeking old queen.

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This was the first of the new run I caught and I switched off after 25 minutes. It was such a dull scenario. Repetitive cgi models and a very dumb and preachy vision of the future. I'll tune in again next time I get chance but considering they only have 13 episodes in a series that felt like a cheap filler episode. Well the first half anyway, maybe it got amazing after I switched off.

It didn't. I nearly did the same as you, loyalty kept me watching, noting else.

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I thought Boe's wording was very odd, describing the Doctor as "the last of [his] kind" before saying "you are not alone".

This suggests to me he's not referring to anything as simple as simply another Time Lord. Possibly some kind of embodiment of the dark side of the Doctor, but not another survivor of the Time War.

Alternatively, it could just be bad writing I suppose.

Still, another cracking episode - three out of three now so far - although I'm disappointed the Face of Boe has now snuffed it. I guess we'll never get to find out what happened to the Balls of Boe now.

Confidential stated that what Boe said would turn out to be devastating as well as the Doctor and the face both being right, enigmatically.

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That was disappointing. I liked the opening episode and for all its faults I thought the Shakespeare episode was good as well but this was really a tale of two halves. It starts badly and gets progressively worse until you have the crab reveal (I was contemplating why the hell I had been watching for 25 minutes just to see some crappy giant crabs). Then it picked up a bit and the end was quite emotional (if a little hammy).

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