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Why is it going to be Daleks versus Cyberman?

Maybe they work together and exterminate us all!? :)

Did you watch the preview?

Cybermen were shooting the Daleks with their laser pointers (and not having much luck by the looks of it/

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it suffered from the same pacing as the Cybermen episodes from earlier in the year.

You've got to be kidding. Rise of the Cybermen was flat and dull for most of the episode, before suddenly cranking things up when the Cybermen turned up right at the end. This was consistently entertaining, and the tension just rose and rose as things developed. I could feel my heart beating once it was over. Brilliant stuff.

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I must be blind or something, as I thought that sucked donkey balls.

Cybermen tearing through plastic sheeting -- ME SCARED!

They didn't sell Torchwood much... Just some white room (never seen that before) with a few computer terminals and a bunch of spoddy twenty-somethings... it looked like a call center.

Colour me disapointed.

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yeah and at the end the cybermen say

Maybe we can join forces and upgrade the wrodl together... or something like that

Or...

I believe it was more like "tear the universe apart, or words to that effect". :)
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yeah and at the end the cybermen say

Maybe we can join forces and upgrade the world together... or something like that

They're still fighting though, hence Daleks vs Cybermen.

You've got to be kidding. Rise of the Cybermen was flat and dull for most of the episode, before suddenly cranking things up when the Cybermen turned up right at the end. This was consistently entertaining, and the tension just rose and rose as things developed. I could feel my heart beating once it was over. Brilliant stuff.

Nah not at all. This episode was flat and dull for most of the episode, before suddenly cranking things up when the Daleks turned up right at the end, DYS?

Who honestly didn't know the 'ghosts' were Cybermen from the start? Who honestly didn't see everything before it happened (other than the chuffing Daleks)? It was totally flat.

And Torchwood were crap - "Ohhh, we can make ghosts and steal alien technology". So fuck? In the christmas invasion they fired a big fucking laser gun and killed hundreds, they did fuck all in todays episode.

They were supposed to be so much cooler than they were, they just never got a chance to do anything. Completely underused.

They didn't sell Torchwood much... Just some white room (never seen that before) with a few computer terminals and a bunch of spoddy twenty-somethings... it looked like a call center.

Absofuckinglutely.

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I thought that was pretty damn good. I suspect my standards have dropped a bit after the rest of this series, but I had great fun watching it, and that's all that matters in the end.

Plus, the Doctor was so fucking on in this one, writing- and acting-wise. I love how the stupid, smug Torchwood woman was convinced he was her prisoner and he didn't even care enough to argue the point, and then two minutes later he was actually leading her around her own building! Excellent stuff. The Doctor being casually, effortlessly amazing = fantastic.

Also, to go into Giant Enemy Doctor Who Geek mode for a minute:

If the Daleks at the end are what I hope they are, Davies has pulled off such a last-minute save of the continuity. It never made any sense that the Daleks could've wiped out the Time Lords in a war - in Who continuity, after Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks were a bit shit, and tethered to an egotistical, crazy scientist who was always pissing about with their design and making them follow stupid orders rather than getting on with building more Daleks and EXTERMINATING. It would always have taken such a massive off-screen flourish for the Daleks we know to have been powered-up to the point where they could take the Time Lords, since not only did the Doctor specifically go back to their origin and make them rubbish, he killed them all and blew up their home planet with the Hand of Omega, too!

So I'm guessing these Daleks, and the ones who wiped out the Time Lords and the sad religious remnants they fought at the end of the first series, are the Daleks of another universe. With no Doctor to fuck them up in their infancy, they just kept nicking higher and higher technology and conquering more and more worlds, until they broke through the barrier between universes and started pissing on everyone else's universe too. Hence them being so much higher-tech (force fields and so on) and so different to 'our' universe's Daleks. Formidable Daleks again! Continuity not (too badly) pissed on! Awesome!

Of course, it's going to turn out they're super-Daleks from Space Cardiff built by an evil mad scientist version of Rose's mum now, and I will cry.

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Acorah's appearance was brilliant.

Yeah, they need to make him a regular.

The Doctor travelling time and space with Derek Acorah.

I would literally let them double the license fee to see that.

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Err, no?

Heart beating.

I should also point out that I thought the Cybermen episodes this series were great.

I just don't think today's episode was much better... other than the Daleks, natch.

The writing was spectacular though - Acorah and the whole Eastenders bit had me giggling like crazy.

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Brilliant opening I thought but the rest was a bit underwhelming until the final 10 minutes or so. I find it mildly annoying that the Doctor acts all surprised that Torchwood exists and that Yvonne woman was talking about how they had gone to great lengths to remain a secret despite the fact that they're in a MASSIVE skyscraper called 'Torchwood Tower' and every single supporting character throughout the series seem to know it exists. It's even been mentioned on the RADIO in one episode.

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Cybermen tearing through plastic sheeting -- ME SCARED!

But all the great Cybermen episodes have them emerge through shrinkwrap.

The preservative qualities of the material are truly outstanding.

And let's face it, unless a Cyberman emerges fresh and frangrant, then what's the point?

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Also, to go into Giant Enemy Doctor Who Geek mode for a minute:

If the Daleks at the end are what I hope they are, Davies has pulled off such a last-minute save of the continuity. It never made any sense that the Daleks could've wiped out the Time Lords in a war - in Who continuity, after Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks were a bit shit, and tethered to an egotistical, crazy scientist who was always pissing about with their design and making them follow stupid orders rather than getting on with building more Daleks and EXTERMINATING. It would always have taken such a massive off-screen flourish for the Daleks we know to have been powered-up to the point where they could take the Time Lords, since not only did the Doctor specifically go back to their origin and make them rubbish, he killed them all and blew up their home planet with the Hand of Omega, too!

So I'm guessing these Daleks, and the ones who wiped out the Time Lords and the sad religious remnants they fought at the end of the first series, are the Daleks of another universe. With no Doctor to fuck them up in their infancy, they just kept nicking higher and higher technology and conquering more and more worlds, until they broke through the barrier between universes and started pissing on everyone else's universe too. Hence them being so much higher-tech (force fields and so on) and so different to 'our' universe's Daleks. Formidable Daleks again! Continuity not (too badly) pissed on! Awesome!

Of course, it's going to turn out they're super-Daleks from Space Cardiff built by an evil mad scientist version of Rose's mum now, and I will cry.

Thing is though, the Dalek Emperor (from last series) knew the Doctor. Knew about the time lords and whatever else. I doubt the Time Lords wouldn't know that alternative universe Daleks came by. However the situation is very similer to the emperors, not to mention the first dalek episode (fell through time and space).

Whatever the case, I doubt it'll be as complicated as your idea. Although of course, it would be fantastic if it is.

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