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cassidy

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Also how did they get the TARDIS back?

I'll go with what the thread on OG assumes and the Hostile Action displacement system activated and placed the TARDIS there.

I actually was a bit disappointed with ep, but then I again raised my expecations too high. Still there was some wonderful stuff in the episode. The whole hanging in the darkness scene was amazing. As was the final line "Stuff of Legends"(last scene of the series to be shot as well).

Apologies for being wrong in my spoilers last week. Thats what you get for reading OG too much :blink:

4/5 for me but it has to be 4.5/5 for the story as a whole.

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Surely the Tardis just fell miles down when they lost the section it was in, and he found it where it landed? I didn't mind that, it made (loose) sense to me, and was satisfying in a sort of "Oh bloody hell, I've got to walk home in the rain, oh hello, here's someone I know to give me a lift" type way. Once he got the Tardis back, it was just a case of using it, so it was really Rose who saved the day.

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Third in the ratings (although second in appreciation) this week, after the England match and Casualty respectively. To be expected with the football and the weather.

Thought it was good conclusion to last weeks story. Not a TGitF beater though, not by a country mile.

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Thought that was a great episode, the comments about Rose dying in battle must be a misnomer now that Bille has signed for series 3 because

She was rumoured to be killed off at the end of the season

RTD has already said her appearance in Series Three will be quite different. I'm still betting she dies.

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I don't think Billie's awful, but I do think her character is being deliberately written as overtly cocksure and full of herself. Pride cometh before the fall, and all that stuff.

Damn right, she's only acting what is written for her! Something bad is coming and we all know it, in some ways I just want them to get to the final episodes now to find out what it is!

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That was much more like it, especially his bit in front of the demon. Didn't quite get the whole smashy-shooty thing at the end though:

Rose could've shot the guy on the ship and the Doctor wouldn't have had to smash the pots (what I thought was going to happen). That fitted with the whole not-just-a-victim thing.

If the Doctor had known the TARDIS was there, it would've also made sense, as he couldn't just go and rescue Rose without also picking up the bad guy in the process. That would've been the dilemma that needed Rose to shoot the guy into space.

However as it stood, it didn't really matter that Rose shot the guy into space because as far as they knew they were going to go into the black hole anyway.

Never mind, at any rate it was good.

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Bit of a DEM ending there.

Not really, they'd already established that the TARDIS was at the bottom of the pit in the previous episode. If it had warped in behind the Doctor when he smashed the urn, I'd agree.

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Alex W.

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I missed the start of the first episode, did the TARDIS fall down the pit then? In that case suddenly it makes a lot more sense.

Anyway, best bit of the episode: David Tennant, abseiling monologue. Makes me want to get the radio shows.

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When?!

I've got the episode on my PC, give me a few seconds and I'll put the quotes up.

EDIT- Here we are.

Doctor: The ground gave way. My TARDIS has fallen right down to the heart of the planet. But you've got robot drills heading the same way.

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That was much more like it, especially his bit in front of the demon. Didn't quite get the whole smashy-shooty thing at the end though:

Rose could've shot the guy on the ship and the Doctor wouldn't have had to smash the pots (what I thought was going to happen). That fitted with the whole not-just-a-victim thing.

If the Doctor had known the TARDIS was there, it would've also made sense, as he couldn't just go and rescue Rose without also picking up the bad guy in the process. That would've been the dilemma that needed Rose to shoot the guy into space.

However as it stood, it didn't really matter that Rose shot the guy into space because as far as they knew they were going to go into the black hole anyway.

Never mind, at any rate it was good.

On the commentary RTd mentions Rose could have shot Toby in the head and killed him, however is that 7.00pm on a Saturday viewing and could you see Rose doing it. So I can see the reasons why what happened, happened.

As for DEM, which bit? The TARDIS in the pit or The TARDIS towing them to safety.

I have no problems with the TARDIS towing as the Doctor said "GRAVITY, SCHAMVITY" the Timelords are Temporal engineers after all and have the ability to harness and use the power of black holes.

So Peter Kay, Danny Blue, and Moaning Myrtle this week, I think I also spotted Louise the thick one from 2 Pints of lager as well and Alan Partridges mate.

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I've got the episode on my PC, give me a few seconds and I'll put the quotes up.

EDIT- Here we are.

Doctor: The ground gave way. My TARDIS has fallen right down to the heart of the planet. But you've got robot drills heading the same way.

Thing is, it fell down yet landed in a cave. Not in the open. How did it get there, eh? Did it move a hundred yards sideways by itself?

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When the TARDIS was found, I actually found myself thinking of it more as a character (the whole "it's alive" thing has taken hold with me, it seems). I could have sworn it was smiling down at him.

The upshot was, I didn't think for a second that where it was had just happened to be where it landed from the fall.

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On the commentary RTd mentions Rose could have shot Toby in the head and killed him, however is that 7.00pm on a Saturday viewing and could you see Rose doing it. So I can see the reasons why what happened, happened.

I'm not talking about whether she should've actually shot him. That doesn't really matter. My point is that the "just a victim" part of the dillema makes no sense unless the Doctor has an opportunity to rescue Rose, which would imply he knew that the TARDIS was there.

I mean, this his how I thought it could work out once Tennant's speech began:

Rose shoots the bad guy into space, so he flies off into the black hole. The Doctor doesn't have to smash the pots and doom Rose with the bad guy, so he beats the dilemma. If he has to, he can still smash the pots to destroy the "body" afterwards.

However what happened was:

The Doctor smashes the pots. Rose is still doomed, and the bad guy's still going to spiral off into the black hole. Rose doesn't actually need to shoot the bad guy into space at all - that bit suddenly doesn't matter to the plot.

If the Doctor knew he could use the TARDIS to rescue them, it's important that the bad guy is off the ship first, and the dilemma works - he couldn't rescue Rose without also rescuing the bad guy.

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Quite frankly that was my favourite pair of episodes from the all the new Who stuff. Just brilliant. Really dark, real sense of menace, and a fantastic demon in the pit. I was, it shames me to say, quite a-feared in places, especially when the Ood where crawling really fast through the tunnels and with the Doc in all that pitch blackness.

Great premise for a story as well, the whole back story to where the Devil originated from. Marvellous stuff.

And that's what happened to the only guy who survived Alien 3. Guess he wasn't invinvible after all.

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Quite frankly that was my favourite pair of episodes from the all the new Who stuff. Just brilliant.

Going to have to disagree with you there, not as good as The Girl in the Fireplace or The Empty Child/ Doctor Dances IMO.

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