Doctor Who

[Death's Head]

Unless, of course, they reveal in part two that the tank is actually the TARDIS, and the one the Daleks destroyed was a real police box he brought back with him.

(There was that line in Colony SSSSSAARRRF's spaceship about Davros 'locking [his] own people away inside tanks' - relevant perhaps?)

[NEG]

Notice in the next time trailer the daleks are praising davros again, I wonder why!

[papalazarou]

I quite liked the episode, plenty of nod backs to classic who – one that it wasn’t till I watched it the second time was how the initial “war” on skaro at the start was very WW1 in design, but this harks back to the design of war torn Skaro from “Genesis” with the way the soldiers were dressed in WW1 style outfits, in trenches etc.….. a nice little touch and nod keeping it all within the continuity

[Rev]

The Master is the curious thing for me here, since surely Missy must have some significant role.

I assumed he isn't dying tomorrow, he just said that to get Missy to turn up and hopefully she'll kill Davros herself (out of jealousy?) rather than making the Doctor do it.

But that was somewhat spoiled by the Doctor going back to shoot Davros at the end. So who knows.

[Darren]

I don't think the Doctor is going to shoot (to kill) child Davros. I reckon child Davros will be held by the hand-mines and the Doctor will shoot the hands to save child Davros, but at the cost of child Davros' use of his legs. And so the circle is complete. Feel free to ridicule me for being totally wrong next Saturday.

Then the Doctor, filled with remorse, could give child Davros the bottom half of a Dalek* as a makeshift wheelchair. Paradoxy woxy!

*or even old Davros' actual wheelchair after old Davros dies

[Rev]

You're probably right*, but didn't he say he was going to shoot him?

*It sounds too reasonable, mind, so you're probably wholly wrong.

[Lorfarius]

Or what if Davros turns Clara into a Dalek for good this time and we can be done with her.

[NEG]

A wizard did it.

[El Pibe]

The human Dalek things are rubbish.

[Space Gibbon]

The idea of the Doctor being able to change the memory of an individual after interfering in their past was explored in The Christmas Carol. It might not be a classic Who convention but at least its been shown that Davros' sudden remembrance of the Doctor is possible.

[Mr Cochese]

I liked the bit where Missy unfroze the planes and there was a brief shot of the UNIT guys all saying stuff like "the planes have started moving again!", in case the kids didn't understand what was happening.

[Delargey]

You're probably right*, but didn't he say he was going to shoot him?

*It sounds too reasonable, mind, so you're probably wholly wrong.

He probably has to shoot him to save him. Darren is on the money here.

You're probably right*, but didn't he say he was going to shoot him?

*It sounds too reasonable, mind, so you're probably wholly wrong.

He probably has to shoot him to save him. Darren is on the money here.

[Alex W.]

Straight out of the gate with the bullshitty technobabble this week.

[JohnC]

Bit of a dick move

kicking a cripple out of his wheelchair and taking it for a ride

[SeanR]

Ha!

[SeanR]

Ha ha!

(I'm watching on a 15 minute delay)

[El Pibe]

Really disappointed by the openers. Really quite dull and just felt like a mess.

[NEG]

Anyone else think Davros was inside a washing machine halfway?

[cassidy]

I enjoyed that a great deal. Really enjoying Missy this year and some great lines in this episode.

[SeanR]

Next week: running away from things, in corridors.

Huzzah!

[NEG]

Come closer Doctor I love you Doctor all I want is a hug

Okay

Haha I was only kidding do you see how much I was kidding haha you idiot

Oh

[WibbleWorldGiddy]

Wait! I knew you were trying to trick me and played along so that angry goo could destroy you, even though it means I'm going to be really short in a future regeneration.

I fully support dramatic storytelling in Doctor Who, but have to admit I was bored towards the end.

[HarMGM]

I knew this was going to be fantastic the moment that Missy started talking about how the doctor gets out of sticky situations.

Part 2 elevates part 1, that's for sure. Overall a good opener from Moffat this year. Better then Deep Breath and easiliy the best Dalek story he's written.

The direction on part of McDonald was also pretty fab. And some real funny moments to boot. 8/10

[Nick R]

Two moments of utter stupidity:

The first: Clara's discovered how to mentally control her Dalek casing... then she's trapped... and yet for some reason "open" isn't the very first thing she tries to think in order to escape?

The other was the Doctor and Davros going a bit Killing Joke and sharing one, final laugh together. All because in the end, Space Hitler is not quite pure evil, and Our Hero has a dark side he's tried to convince the universe he doesn't have. This is enough to make them really not so different, you and I. So let's give Space Hitler the gift of the most unique life force in the universe... but surprise! He really is pure even after all!

Even though "life force reanimates putrefied corpses" was a neat idea, the revelation that it was all part of the Doctor's genius victory plan couldn't outweigh the groan-worthiness of that moment.

Fortunately moments like those were more than made up for by an excellent opening and plenty of cute Moffaty moments throughout. (Honestly, that "sewers are revolting" line justifies just about anything.)

[Garwoofoo]

I really enjoyed that.

It felt more like classic Who than most of the new series has done. The two-part structure gave it room to breathe and it just told its own story without being portentous or over-complex as Moffat too often tries to be. It was genuinely funny in places (loved the chair joke), Missy is consistently excellent and they've definitely rebooted Capaldi's character a bit and all for the better.

Most of all, it wasn't trying to be dark. After a few seasons of Matt Smith over-emoting and a year of Capaldi scowling darkly this was a real breath of fresh air. If we get a year of people running down corridors being chased by Daleks I will be absolutely delighted.

[HarMGM]

I want every Doctor Who episode from now on to feature Capaldi driving around in Davros's chair.

EDIT: I agree that Missy is fantastic. Gomez has given life to the character of the Master in a way no one has achieved since Delgado. Best piece of casting of the entire Moffat era i'd say.

[Not Thread Owner]

Obviously the Doctor left Davros to *live*, not die.

Tah-dah!

[Not Thread Owner]

Also: shades can fuck off, bring back last year's Doctor attire, Deus Ex Machina with the Tardis can do one. Aside from that, I bet Missy is well dirty and I definitely would.

[Lorfarius]

Good god I guessed right.

[Harsin]

Am I ever sick of characters constantly wanking on about how amazing and legendary and the most special and powerful being in the universe the Doctor is, also him announcing his name with supreme importance like he's fucking Batman.

Looks like Moffat is going to try and make up some epic mythic bollocks about why he left Gallifrey now. I liked him just doing a runner because he was bored, it was nicely small scale and somehow uniquely British. Now everything has to be bombastic and a BIG DEAL (just don't expect actual repercussions though - remember when the Doctor erased himself from all databases because he'd become too big a deal or when he erased all memories of him from the Daleks who suddenly worked like the Borg for one episode - the showrunners don't seem to).