Doctor Who

[Gregory Wolfe]

Its the Tardis though innit? Cross time, dimensions gubbins. Or in more simple terms... it's a TV show.

Maybe this was just the end of a spiral of events that led to a time line where what we saw happened in the way it happened. Maybe in the first loop things were completely different.

Yeah, whatevs. I don't usually even notice this stuff. It's an excellent show with excellent actors, scripts, stuff etc. which I've loved since the early 70s and it's in rude health and great hands.

[NickyDrinks]

Murray Gold bombast drowning out the dialogue again. Surely the most complained about part of new Who, but yet it's something they don't seem to want to address

This series is the first one I've had to rewind parts and switch on subtitles to find out what was said, even scenes where there isn't any music. I know there was another show (also on BBC?) that got lots of complaints about the dialogue being unintelligible. I never saw it though so can't compare to see if it's similar to the problem I'm having with this particular series of Doctor Who.

[El Pibe]

And if the Ethereal copycat already knew the combination code to his missus, why didn't it just melt Keeley Hawes brain and get her out?

And in order for the initial time loop to start, and Hawes to know about giving the Dr the phone call, the Dr needed to break the bank in the first place to tell her - but that would never have happened the first time round?

Was it unable to get to the real Hawes, as she's hidden away downstairs, but only had access to the clone?

Anyways, I really enjoyed that and it kept me gripped throughout. Overall it's been a good season do far.

Keeley Hawes

[Fury4k]

It was locked in the safe until that point.

[Flub]

Wibbly wobbly guys. Just roll with it

[Lag]

That doesn't cover it for me. The Doctor received a phonecall but without being involved in those events in the first place then the phonecall could not have happened.

That's why it's a paradox - it's a closed loop, there is no obvious beginning.

[Sprite Machine]

I can't remember if it was explicitly stated, but how did the Doctor get into the bank in the first place to leave those things for them?

[Uncle Mike]

He's got a TARDIS.

[Mr Cochese]

Batman left the stuff there for him while also getting back on to the island and preparing the enormous flaming bat signal on the bridge.

[Sprite Machine]

He's got a TARDIS.

Well, yeah, if he could materialise inside the bank before the solar storm, then why not just materialise directly inside the vault and rescue the creature without having to set up an elaborate heist?

[And]

Best line for me was when his memories were flooding back when the beast was zapping him and he comes out with: "Bow tie, embarrassing"

[Rev]

Well, yeah, if he could materialise inside the bank before the solar storm, then why not just materialise directly inside the vault and rescue the creature without having to set up an elaborate heist?

Did you miss the end of the episode?

Because he's trying to make the adventure better than Clara's date.

[The Bag]

Did you miss the end of the episode?

Because he's trying to make the adventure better than Clara's date.

Also there's the whole

telepathic link between the teller & Karabraxos thing

[Captain Novaforce]

Really apart from Primer has any time travel story made much sense when you think too much about it? I thought it was great, hope they bring back those two characters too at some point for more space crime.

[HarMGM]

Next week's episode looks to be pretty good. Written by Gareth Roberts, who also wrote the Lodger. Capaldi looks to be rocking the Ghostbuster style of battling monsters.

On another note, The Caretaker is the last episode, until the series finale, written by a veteran writer of Doctor Who. After this it's only going to be new writing talent which is something the show has been really needing since series 6. Looking forward to it.

[Space Gibbon]

Anyone else notice a bit of Malcom Tucker in there? "Shuttity up!"

[NEG]

MY HEAD HURTS

edit: from reading the previous page, sorry!

[Sprite Machine]

Did you miss the end of the episode?

Because he's trying to make the adventure better than Clara's date.

That seems awfully irresponsible, seeing as he's

willingly putting two creatures' lives in danger for a bit of fun. Although, you could argue that he knew the heist would be successful and was willfully repeating the time loop.

Really apart from Primer has any time travel story made much sense when you think too much about it?

I'd argue the episode 'Blink' does a pretty thorough job of it, one or two minor details aside.

Mind you, some people can't accept temporal loops as making sense full-stop, but I rather enjoy them.

Also there's the whole

telepathic link between the teller & Karabraxos thing

What's that got to do with getting into the vault?

[Harsin]

Capaldi looks to be rocking the Ghostbuster style of battling monsters.

Be careful what you say. Some of us still have PTSD from when Doctor Who and Ghostbusters intersected.

[The Bag]

What's that got to do with getting into the vault?

what I got from it is she would know if the teller was going to do something to rescue the other one and do something to it, her way of controlling it, stop it just eating her mind. Otherwise there's really no reason in mentioning the telepathic link and reassuring the teller that's she's gone.

[NEG]

Does The Doctor have less memories now that the monster ate some?

11th: I won't forget one line of this, I swear.

Oh well!

[Rev]

That seems awfully irresponsible, seeing as he's

willingly putting two creatures' lives in danger for a bit of fun. Although, you could argue that he knew the heist would be successful and was willfully repeating the time loop.

It's not exactly the first time he's done something irresponsible, but he clearly knew it was going to work out whether he was repeating the loop or not.

If you want to be judgemental though, if he did know how it panned out you could probably assume that he placed the person who got their brain souped there so the two extras would willingly teleport rather than risk the fate.

[Nick R]

By @spleenal

[womblingfree]

Be careful what you say. Some of us still have PTSD from when Doctor Who and Ghostbusters intersected.

I think I hate David Tenant more than Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy.

[Mr Cochese]

I think my favourite bit was when they were wandering around the corridors of the most secure bank in the universe unchallenged for hours on end.

[Lag]

nevertheless, you could tell it was the most secure bank in the universe because people kept saying it was.

[Retroid]

It was like a bad episode of Hustle, it was like an episode of Hustle.

[Space Renegade Ulala]

Really apart from Primer has any time travel story made much sense when you think too much about it? I thought it was great, hope they bring back those two characters too at some point for more space crime.

Timecrimes, The Terminator*.

* Can't blame the original for having dumb sequels that break a perfect, self-contained story.

[Mr Cochese]

Terminator is another closed loop with no apparent entry point.

[SeanR]

that's because it doesn't loop.

it branches.

/pushes glasses up nose.