Doctor Who

[HarMGM]

From that same article: "Doctor Who will now be head to head with The X Factor."

Backpeddling time for me then as I say that I still wouldn't be worried. Next to reality shows Doctor Who is consistently one of the highest rated programs on television in the UK.

[El Pibe]

I wish the BBC would just get with the times and stick Dr Who up on iPlayer ideally in one hit or, if they have to limit it to one a week, just stick it up on Saturday morning.

[SeanR]

Another red dwarf episode?

[SeanR]

Can you say "minotaur"?

[JohnC]

Seems to be a fair few deaths this season.

[DoctorK]

Nice to hear the computer voice is the narrator from The Stanley Parable.

[SeanR]

Who's it going to be?

[Guest]

Brilliant. I hope to see those characters again.

[PopeSmokesDope]

Enjoyed that

[Pekoe]

Pyramid head.

[NEG]

Not great as it confused me a fair bit by the end as to what's going on, but still fun nonsense.

Next weeks looks a lot of fun.

[SeanR]

Not great as it confused me a fair bit by the end as to what's going on, but still fun nonsense.

Next weeks looks a lot of fun.

it was a bill and ted ending.

[womblingfree]

Great episode. Terrifying monster, not too much Coleman, some good new characters and a feature film plot condensed to one episode.

Some of it were proper scary. Them Saw voice and soup bits in particular. PG-13 at least.

[Sprite Machine]

Best one yet.

[Garwoofoo]

Capaldi was great as ever and the monster was all kinds of brilliant, but this was the weakest of the series so far for me. Just too many sci-fi cliches and for some reason I thought the dialogue was really indistinct. Still, that's the joy of Doctor Who, isn't it? Everyone wants, and gets, something different from it.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

The fact is was " Sci-fi " made it one of the best so far for me.

Doctor Who should indeed be about other planets and strange monsters!

[Teabag]

Five good episodes in a row. When's the last time they did that?

[bm]

Five good episodes in a row. When's the last time they did that?

In two weeks' time?

[SeanR]

Timey-wimey.

[Beitel]

That was pretty good! Listen had a more interesting idea, but this episode was tighter and more entertaining overall. I especially like the way the backstories of the supporting characters fitted with the final "revelation". Of course it was cheesy, but that never stood in the way of storytelling, which is often the case with the series.

Capaldi's Doctor is still a bit elusive, whereas the previous ones had a clearly distinctive personality from the get-go. But that elusiveness is also part of the personality this more "alien" Doctor, so it fits that it takes more time to get used to him and get an idea of what makes him tick.

[Bacon Horsemeat]

So the most secure bank in the galaxy... vulnerable to solar storms.

Also what does Keeley Hawes say when the Dr asks "if you don't like your boss why stay"?

[Bacon Horsemeat]

And if the Ethereal copycat already knew the combination code to his missus, why didn't it just melt Keeley Hawes brain and get her out?

And in order for the initial time loop to start, and Hawes to know about giving the Dr the phone call, the Dr needed to break the bank in the first place to tell her - but that would never have happened the first time round?

[Ste_S]

Garwoofoo, on 21 Sept 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

Capaldi was great as ever and the monster was all kinds of brilliant, but this was the weakest of the series so far for me. Just too many sci-fi cliches and for some reason I thought the dialogue was really indistinct. Still, that's the joy of Doctor Who, isn't it? Everyone wants, and gets, something different from it.

Murray Gold bombast drowning out the dialogue again. Surely the most complained about part of new Who, but yet it's something they don't seem to want to address

[Fury4k]

I barely noticed the music in this one, only actually doing so in one scene where I thought to myself how quiet it had been until that particular point.

[Mogster]

Last week's music was pretty subtle and spooky too. I only really noticed it at the start of this one, where it felt a bit unnecessary. Murray Gold does occasionally reel himself in.

[Gregory Wolfe]

And if the Ethereal copycat already knew the combination code to his missus, why didn't it just melt Keeley Hawes brain and get her out?

And in order for the initial time loop to start, and Hawes to know about giving the Dr the phone call, the Dr needed to break the bank in the first place to tell her - but that would never have happened the first time round?

I had the same thoughts about the 2nd issue. That's a paradox, thought I.

So the most secure bank in the galaxy... vulnerable to solar storms.

Also what does Keeley Hawes say when the Dr asks "if you don't like your boss why stay"?

She said something about her face fitting (in).

[Lag]

And in order for the initial time loop to start, and Hawes to know about giving the Dr the phone call, the Dr needed to break the bank in the first place to tell her - but that would never have happened the first time round?

It's called an ontological paradox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_paradox

No it isn't, it's called a predestination paradox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

[Gregory Wolfe]

It's called an ontological paradox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_paradox

No it isn't, it's called a predestination paradox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

That doesn't cover it for me. The Doctor received a phonecall but without being involved in those events in the first place then the phonecall could not have happened.

[Lorfarius]

Its the Tardis though innit? Cross time, dimensions gubbins. Or in more simple terms... it's a TV show.

[Fury4k]

Maybe this was just the end of a spiral of events that led to a time line where what we saw happened in the way it happened. Maybe in the first loop things were completely different.