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Nobody gives a shit about offing a few billion Daleks. They're all cunts :) And I'm guessing being a space and time faring race bent on enslaving the universe they weren't all home watching the football at the time.

And if you accept the 7th Doctor Virgin novels as canon (And you should because that means Benny is official :) ) he's currently in the room with no doors as punishment for the shite he pulled.

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I know this! Billie McPipex, as the OS of The Moment, had pulled the two doctors out of the future to help John Hurt make the right decision, so she also had the power to grab all the others.

It would have made a better story. Going to the other doctors (CGI or fat old Tom Baker style) and bringing them together. It's not as if all of the live ones (excluding Ecclestone) are busy doing anything else. They even turned up for that crappy live aftershow party. Just give them a giant cake, they would have happily turned up for it.

That would have been a better episode than some boring red tentacle and Elizabeth I crap.

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a533505/doctor-who-steven-moffat-on-regeneration-limit.html

Moffat suggesting the regeneration limit does still stand.

"Paul McGann turns into John Hurt so they're not the same incarnation. He used up another regeneration and I expect he'll be in trouble shortly - you can't break rules laid down in the Deadly Assassin," he teased.

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In the 50th Anniversary Special, the War Doctor, Tenth Doctor and Eleventh Doctor work together and change history by hiding Gallifrey instead of destroying it, doing it in such a way that the Daleks essentially destroy themselves. So as far as anyone's concerned, Gallifrey is gone, the Timelords have vanished and the Daleks are destroyed. Everything is as it was. The War Doctor and the Tenth Doctor cannot remember that they changed anything, meaning all episodes up to this point are still completely valid. But what the Eleventh Doctor now knows is that Gallifrey is still standing, it's just hidden somewhere

I didn't read it like this.

I'd got the impression that actually, the "destruction of Gallifrey" was always as shown in this special. The Doctor never did destroy Gallifrey, it was always made to look like he did and because of the memory loss he believed he did as much as everyone else. All the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors were doing in this special were playing out the roles they always had to play in this "fixed point in time" (hence the reference to that in the show itself). Gallifrey was always saved, always frozen in time, it's just that that's only become apparent once we got to the 11th Doctor's point in the timeline as he's the only Doctor who retains his memory after the event.

Have I misread this?

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Have I misread this?

No, that sounds right to me too now you mention it. I actually think it was a clever bit of story telling - certainly the cleverest the show's been in some time.

I hate to say it and I suspect I'll get negged to oblivion for this, but one of the things I've always loved about Doctor Who, both with regards the classic and the current eras, is that it never takes itself too seriously. It's not like Star Trek where they release continuity bibles and technical manuals because they know fans will pore over the details and demand authenticity - Doctor Who has always been a lot more fun than that. Technicalities rarely come in the way of a good adventure, and that's kind of how I like it. I mean, it *is* a kids show, just a really good one that adults can enjoy too. My 4-year old daughter always asks to watch Doctor Who with me when she stays over at mine as her mum won't let her watch it because it's "too scary" for her.

(We watched Asylum of the Daleks on Saturday as the special was on after her bedtime and when the zombie bit happened, I went to cover her eyes. She pushed my hand away, telling me that they're just robot skeletons and she's not scared of things like that!)

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I have a vague recollection, somewhat bolstered by a wiki search, that The Valeyard is a bad version of the Doctor, from between the 12th and 13th Doctors. Now there is an off-by-one error in the numbering of Doctors, does that mean between Smith and Capaldi? Or will it be part of the post Capaldi regeneration limit reset story? I think the Valeyard got a namecheck last season.

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I keep seeing people saying that it was Capaldi's voice that you heard shouting "No! It's all thirteen!", when all the Doctors were showing up at the end but I thought it was the sidekick guy to the Head Timelord, wasn't it?

I think it was, but we've not heard Capaldi's "Doctor Who" voice yet...

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