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Vespa Alex

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So how do the producers go about changing Doctors? I presume some are pushed and others jump. I'm guessing Smith may have been pushed?

Same as any other acting job - he'll have been offered a contract to play the part for a certain number of years which they can renew or not as they see fit.

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I completely gave up on the last series... totally. Fed up with it. Thought the assistant was rubbish, thought the stories were dull. The format has run its course. Having everything wrapped up in a single episode just doesn't give room for the characters to breath...

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Jack Walsh's coffee shop

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So glad they've gone with Peter Capaldi.

Been going though his very long list of acting credits on IMBD. I remember in the 90's watching a promo for a TV drama he was in that I never got round to seeing. But what I do distinctly recall was the line his character delivers in the promo:

"Mass fraud can be defined either as taking a pound from a million people, or taking a million pounds from one person. Only this is taking 100 pounds from a million people. This is massive, Euro scale fraud!"

Any ideas what this was?

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MrPogo

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Why do they announce it? Surely it would be so much better to do the reveal in the actual show, keeping people in suspence.

The bbc have no concept of surprises and spoilers, especially with Doctor Who. They're always making a big deal of "The Daleks/Cybermen etc return this week!" in pre-broadcast advertisements, when the show itself then spends 40 minutes drip-feeding hints about the identity of the unseen enemy which the creators clearly intended to come as a shock reveal.

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The bbc have no concept of surprises and spoilers, especially with Doctor Who. They're always making a big deal of "The Daleks/Cybermen etc return this week!" in pre-broadcast advertisements, when the show itself then spends 40 minutes drip-feeding hints about the identity of the unseen enemy which the creators clearly intended to come as a shock reveal.

It's because they know for a fact that it'd be utterly impossible to keep the identity of the new Doctor secret until the show actually airs. The monster content I agree with you though.

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The bbc have no concept of surprises and spoilers, especially with Doctor Who. They're always making a big deal of "The Daleks/Cybermen etc return this week!" in pre-broadcast advertisements, when the show itself then spends 40 minutes drip-feeding hints about the identity of the unseen enemy which the creators clearly intended to come as a shock reveal.

Advertising daleks or cybermen in the next episode is a guaranteed way to get a high number of casual viewers, so you can understand why they hardly ever resist the opportunity.

There's one well-known case in Davison's era when they didn't announce the Cybermen and left them as a surprise at the end of the episode. Of course today the DVD has the cybermen all over it!

It's always the Daleks or the Cybermen. To think that Sylvester McCoy spent most of the late eighties blowing those fuckers up.

The strange thing is that the daleks and cybermen didn't appear as often as people think. Hartnell saw the daleks most often, and Troughton saw the cybermen most often. After that, their appearances were fairly occasional.

Pertwee: Daleks 3 times, Cybermen 0

Baker, T: Daleks twice, Cybermen once

Davison: Daleks once, Cybermen once (+1 each if you include the Five Doctors)

Baker, C: Daleks once, Cybermen once

McCoy: Daleks once, Cybermen once

This kind of kept the daleks and cybermen as the "mythical" baddies of Doctor Who, because a new batch of children in the audience would hear about how important they were before actually seeing them. So if you were 5, you might have a 9-year-old brother telling you, "OMG the daleks are sooooo scary, you'll see!", because your 9-year-old brother last saw them on TV when he was 5.

Apart from when Blue Peter wheeled them out every other week.

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It's always the Daleks or the Cybermen. To think that Sylvester McCoy spent most of the late eighties blowing those fuckers up.

As best as I can remember it

"Ace. Did you bring any nitro 9?"

"No Doctor. I'm a good girl"

"Excellent. Blow up that vehicle"

And from Rememberence of the Daleks

"Ace. Give me some of that nitro 9 you're not carrying"

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Red Alignment

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Same as any other acting job - he'll have been offered a contract to play the part for a certain number of years which they can renew or not as they see fit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure the only Doctor actor to have been specifically 'let go of' was Colin Baker. The rest either left the series on their own accord, for health reasons (Hartnel) or because the series was cancelled (Sylv McCoy).
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Jon Pertwee was let go after he was discovered with three dead hookers dressed as Axons and a mountain of charlie in a Shepherd's Bush dressing room. Of course, as we now know, this being the BBC of the time they hushed it up.

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It's because they know for a fact that it'd be utterly impossible to keep the identity of the new Doctor secret until the show actually airs. The monster content I agree with you though.

Yeah, I meant it in an "it would never occur to them even think about trying, because they can't get their heads round some people won't want to know the surprise monster in an episode starting in five seconds time" context*. That said, they could have had a go at it though; if they hadn't announced Matt Smith's departure it would be possible to do a death scene and regeneration on a closed set with very few people in the loop until it airs.

*I completely avoided everything Doctor Who before one episode, running out of the room with my fingers in my ears at the slightest sign of an advert, then the announcer did a "And now it's time for brand new Doctor Who with the return of (insert enemy here)" to introduce the programme. Then there was a 45 minute long build up of not seeing the things before their "surprise" reveal just before the To Be Continued flashed up.

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For the new series my dream would be the whole thing to be one massive story, a real one that's planned from the beginning and not just cobbled together from incredibly vague hints. Is there any decent Dr Who books that could be adapted to this? Perhaps lower the number of writers to accommodate or at-least have them working together. Something like Invasion of the Dinosaurs but with today's budget would be pretty awesome.

Enemies are no longer a threat, people try to create these epic battles within one episode and it just ends with the Dr flicking a switch and everything is back to normal - it's not right. That's why most of the decent episodes have simple stories - because that's the size they need to be for the running time of one episode.

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I think I've seen those stats somewhere before but that's still pretty remarkable. Does anyone have the figures for 9, 10 and 11 by way of comparison?

8 cybermen stories since the relaunch (inc TW)

otherwise count them from

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Daleks_-_list_of_appearances

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cybermen_(Mondas)_-_list_of_appearances

a lot. Each.

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