Doctor Who

[Sprite Machine]

That was a bit of a mess, frankly. Bombastic and over-the-top. Too many ideas, too little time to let them develop and grow (or make much sense). Too quick, too brisk, too snappy. Not enough substance.

Should have been a six-parter.

[Comrade]

I thought it was a pretty great episode, personally.

[Gommy]

It was okay but (and no offence to that show which has a different target audience) - it felt a bit Sarah Jane adventures.

[zxcvbnm]

I guess Amy must've carved out a nice little career as a novelist back in the whenever she and Rory got sent to, if the cover of the book is anything to go by.

You're a right grumpy bunch. I enjoyed it, great new assistant, saw more of the Tardis and how people can complain about Matt Smith as the doctor is beyond me, he's the best thing to happen to the show since Peter Davison.

[Captain Novaforce]

Knew I'd come in here and you lot would be grumping!

Great wee episode - not too many ideas for once and it just rattled along nicely. Oswin bit was clever, as was the mnemonic for the internet. While this was good, I wouldn't mind some two parters just to let the story breath a wee bit.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

how people can complain about Matt Smith as the doctor is beyond me, he's the best thing to happen to the show since Peter Davison.

I'm not so sure we mean to complain about Matt Smith. I can't argue his Doctor maybe is the best thing since Peter Davison. However I do think he's been matched up with two very strong characters in Amy Pond and Rory. This seems to have choked up Matts role as the Doctor IMO. We haven't had chance to really get under the skin of this Doctor.

- maybe that's what the writers wanted from it all?

Look, we could run a debate on this until the next regeneration/actor - so lets keep them as playful thoughts eh?

Talking of which! : http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-matt-smith-quitting-1293357

That story, further goes to show how little time we've had to really get into...well ... Possibly Every Incarnation of the Doctor since the show restarted if you think about it

Thanks Neal x

[JohnC]

Filming 14 hour days for 10 months a year? I call bullshit on that.

[Lorfarius]

So do I. That'd work out longer than most US 22 episode shows wouldn't it? Most of those only have a couple of weeks break between seasons too.

[c-cat114]

Enjoyed the episode although it wasn't a classic for me. What was there was great but voices in the machine have been done a lot (reminded me of an early Hellblazer which did it better) and as mentioned felt a little like a mash up of a lot of recent Who eps.

But - the quality of the show has never been better and the Moffat era does shine in terms of lighting, direction etc. Matt Smith is a fabulous Doctor and Clara... Is fine. Hasn't won me over but not irrritating like Rose was on a daily basis.

Anyhow liked it. Not great but not Russell either.

What was the Earls Court incident?

[Cthulhu Steev]

What was the Earls Court incident?

[Hello Goaty ♥]

I'm surprised that stays in such good condition!

[c-cat114]

Ahhhhhh clever. Like it

[Hello Goaty ♥]

Here, In case any of you want to rename your Wifi - ┓┏ 凵 =╱⊿┌┬┐

[Made of Ghosts]

Apparently being uploaded to wi-fi makes you stare at a camera and say "where am I? I don't know where I am" repeatedly 24 hours a day.

Moffat is so bloody predictable. I'm getting especially bored of the Doctor being revealed "unexpectedly" a couple of minutes into each episode after having some minor characters talk about him without mentioning his name.

[Jug McKenzie]

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[Fireproofradiator]

It's the inverse of the Prometheus thread!

[davidcotton]

Makes me wonder why half the posters here bother watching it tbh.

Cheers

[Flub]

Here, In case any of you want to rename your Wifi - ┓┏ 凵 =╱⊿┌┬┐

Sadly they aren't valid characters for an SSID

[Hello Goaty ♥]

One.Day

MS will probably include it in Windows 9!

[SeanR]

approaches west side, drives up east side, enters via window with northerly view...

also,

if they uploaded all the minds back into bodies, would some of them not have been buried, on account of being "dead"?

[Commander Jameson]

approaches west side, drives up east side, enters via window with northerly view...

also,

if they uploaded all the minds back into bodies, would some of them not have been buried, on account of being "dead"?

I thought they mentioned that the bodies do "wake up" after a short time, but, I guess, remain soulless. If they then died naturally later, then yes, the souls would be properly dead, but as The Doctor explains, that would be better than being trapped forever.

[Commander Jameson]

I heard it as recent captured people could return to their bodies, but longer prisoners would simply die as their bodies were dead. There was nothing about bodies waking up as far as I recall

I thought I heard that in the intro section. Could be mistaken though.

[Alex W.]

Solid enough series opener, good banter and an entertaining if not terribly threatening opponent. Properly grim little turn at the end though.

[Garwoofoo]

Makes me wonder why half the posters here bother watching it tbh.

Cheers

I appreciate it's probably not worth even debating this with someone who has a New Assistant avatar, but basically: I love Doctor Who, I've watched it all my life, I accept that it has its ups and downs and that's even part of its charm, but I thought even by the standards of the current series (which has been fairly poor) that was an absolute stinker of an episode. Sadly it's not possible to know in advance whether I'll like a particular episode or not. Apologies if my opinion contradicts your own.

[Mogster]

I heard it as recent captured people could return to their bodies, but longer prisoners would simply die as their bodies were dead. There was nothing about bodies waking up as far as I recall

This. Evil woman tells the Doctor this in an attempt to discourage him, to which he says it's still the kindest thing to do or something.

[The Boatman]

There are rumours floating around fan circles of a forthcoming classic-series-related announcement by the BBC...

A missing episodes find. A BIG one.

[HarMGM]

Would be awesome if it were Power of the Daleks. Throughton's first episode I believe.

[joeplus]

Lots of nice bits: unsecured wi-fi as a monster, the spoonheads, all the bits that hinted at Clara's story, and even though it was daft I liked the justification for the anti-grav bike. The baddie speaking through other people was great, as was the final reveal with UNIT and the original personalities.

As ever, I hated the self-mythologising. "Monks aren't cool!". Oh wow that's a change, normally the Doctor (i.e. Moffat) tells us what is cool, like hats and bow ties! The Doctor lustily sniffs a pack of Jammy Dodgers, bites one and then leaves it on the plate (Moffat smells his own fart, and wipes a bogey onto his sofa). The Covent Garden Incident (makes no sort of sense any way you slice it, which is kind of ironically impressive). The Doctor engages crucial brand-centred opportunities with The Shard PLC, Burger King, Facebook, Flickr oh come on fuck off.

I'm warming to Clara because the plotting is fascinating, and only because of that - she's a bland Ryvita otherwise. It always seems to me like Moffat writes complicated, clever stories and then glues some people to them, whereas RTD started with characters and built the stories around them, which works better over the course of a series.

Gosh, I didn't mean to write all that - TLDR the Clara stuff is great, I'm optimistic, and Matt Smith is a professional actor so please stop making him masturbate to camera.

[zxcvbnm]

that was an absolute stinker of an episode.

Your Honour, I would like to submit the following evidence as to state what a Doctor Who stinker episode is actually like:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8340253/doctor_who_2006_fear_her_episode_11/

The defence rests.

[linkster]

Your Honour, I would like to submit the following evidence as to state what a Doctor Who stinker episode is actually like:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8340253/doctor_who_2006_fear_her_episode_11/

The defence rests.

That's a boring episode but there was nothing as cynical and downright objectionable as what has come since. They tried something that didn't really work, then they found something that got lots of ratings and have riffed on it ever since. That is what truly sucks.