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Like someone else said, how good you are probably should depend on how quickly you can pick a game up,

I dunno. I can pick games up very quickly but I think it's just cos i've played a hell of a lot of games, not because i'm some ninja master. I just get bored easy and never get really good . . .

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I do think that those people who are really good at a game are those that specialise. I'd rather play a variety of stuff and be ok at it all. Which I mostly am, I think, but I'll never be great at anything. I'm 14th on the Metal Slug 3 Live scoreboard with over 1.5 million. That's the best thing I've done recently. My friends who play games infrequently think I'm good, but realistically, there's always a load of people much, much better than me at any given game.

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If I like a game, then I'll play it 'til completion. The enjoyment of the game always seems to give me enough skill to see it until the end, and so far *touch wood* I haven't been truly beaten by a game to the point where I just give up. GTA:SA is a major source of frustration at times, but I love it too much to give up. Although I'm saying that my patience is good for most games, I haven't yet tried the delights of the Metal Slug, Gradius V or Ikaruga so that may change.

I'm shit at most online games such as HALO2 and even Crimson Skies. On PGR2 I can have the odd night where I win 30% of my races but that's my upward limit on a good night. On PC games before xbox live, I had my online gaming moments but generally I was tremendously average.

In my own opinion, my biggest gaming achievment has been completing Ninja Gaiden on Normal. It took me the best part of three weeks, a lot of swearing and a few changes of underwear. However, I still smile inwardly when I think about how I felt on beating the last boss.

RPGs are my new 'thing', and I don't even think about skills as I'm playing them. Right now I'm playing Tales of Symphonia on GC, KOTOR on Xbox (first time after owning it since launch) and FFI&II on GBA and I'm too immersed in the storyline to worry about skills.

It used to bother me when I (constantly) got my arse handed to me on a plate on online games, but now I'm 31 and for me it's about playing games I enjoy because they're good, and not because I'm good at them, if that makes sense.

Nice thread BTW. Very introspective.

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I think the test here is "how far you got on Ninja Gaiden".

Me? Bastard Samurai Boss On A Horse. Then I cried inwardly.

Completed on all difficulties. I must 0wn j00 a11, or something :blink:

Plus generally I just love hard games. Devil May Cry was great the first time I played it, it reminded me of how games used to be in the 'good ol' days' :wub:

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Flying laser things in a warehouse (level 7?) - AAAAAAaaaarrrrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!

It's level 9 and here's how to beat them if you want it :blink:

Click For Spoiler
Don't aim manually. Most of the time you'll be close enough to them that Ryu will hit them by himself.

If Gaiden was the only measure I'd be a pretty good gamer. I beat Very Hard three times until it stopped being a challenge, got through HP1 without much trouble and beat the tiny HP2 in a few hours. Anyone who played the first Hurricane Pack and thought it was too hard for words clearly didn't bother getting past the second level. Some bits are harder and some bits (especially nearly all boss fights) are easier than Hard and Very Hard in the original version. One of the best things about HP1 is that the scoring is now rigorous and you can't just get Master Ninja on every level without trying, so my next mission is to get a decent placing on the Tournament board.

Anyway, sadly Gaiden is not the only measure. I'm pretty crap at most other games :wub:

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What BigLime said a few pages back about how he measures a good gamer is pretty much what I agree with, htough I have thought of a new 'test':

Unlock Master mode on Super Monkey Ball 1 anyone? I know i certainly couldnt. I could get to about stage 30ish on 3 lives.

Waaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooo haaaaaaard

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What BigLime said a few pages back about how he measures a good gamer is pretty much what I agree with, htough I have thought of a new 'test':

Unlock Master mode on Super Monkey Ball 1 anyone? I know i certainly couldnt. I could get to about stage 30ish on 3 lives.

Waaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooo haaaaaaard

:blink:

judge just by monkey ball?

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I'm a pretty good gamer, considering I barely play anything. Last year all I managed to finished were PGR2 (all Gold), Pillage (died once or twice during the entire campaign IIRC), KOTOR (die? Maybe once or twice in the campaign owing to stupid stuff and a couple of times on the final boss until I realised I Was doing it wrong), Chronicles of Riddick and Tiger Woods 2004. I think that was about it. Oh, and Halo 2, though Normal was too easy to be honest; I should have done it on Heroic. And all that is a better number of completed games than just about any year since the N64 came out.

Anyway, I find I end up playing a little of something and get good pretty quickly - examples include Halo and stuff like DDR. Within a couple of relatively short sessions (couple of hours maybe?) I was sight reading 6 feet (I think - someone like Kerraig could confirm probably, if he remembers that far back) comfortably on DDR, for example. And Halo multiplayer I'm okay at - certainly better than the majority, which given how little I actually ever played, pleases me.

As regards gaming in general - better than average for most genres I suppose, some very much so, and if I bother playing a game for more than a few hours I usually get really good.

Oh, and I never realised SMB Level 7 was supposed to be tough until I saw people posting about it on gaming forums. I found it just needed patience. Mind you, I don't think I ever unlocked Master Mode but as I alluded to before, games bore me quickly and I just didn't bother to persever. Had I done so, I reckon it was certainly comfortably within my grasp.

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I'm Mr Incredible at Street Fighter 2 there in the UK, but here in Japan I'm more of a Mr Joe Bloggs.

-Jools

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Mr incredible indeed. Like blowing ya own trumpet much Jools. I could almost have you back in the day when I actually played :blink:

I'd say I'm above average at almost all games, except sports games. I dont play them, so I would probably suck at them if I played them :wub:

To be fair, its almost all about time investment. If you play a game lots, then you'll be good, if you dont, then you wont. Simple.

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I'm a little above average at FPS, PC ones at least judging by the fact I'm normally in the top 5 for any team or free for all deathmatch games I play online. Good at RPG's [they just require patience for the most part] and RTS games as well.

Sports and racing games I am rubbish at though. I'm a PC gamer at heart and I've never really got round to figuring out these "controller" thingies. :blink: Oh and I'm a right button basher when it comes to fighting games.

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But in most cases it's just bloody-minded (and painfully dull) dedication to a single cause.

Absolutely spot on. No matter how good you are at any game, XBoxLive just repeatedly proves that there's always someone out there who is prepared to do nothing other than spend all their time getting good at one game.

I generally think I'm a bit of an all-rounder, but since getting back into 2D games I've realised I've either gone soft or never had the skill in the first place. When I hear people say they can get through Gradius V on one credit, I just think "What are you, a fu(king cyborg?!!!"

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A lot of it is about pure time input.

I have done master mode on monkey ball and also scored 300 bowling, 10000 on monkey target but I loved the game and that is all that I played for a few weeks.

I have platinum'd PGR 2 but spent 70 hours doing it and spent a couple of hours on individual challenges. Some were first go some were 50th go.

I did beat the european champion at SF2 on the snes at a show once. Only person to do it that day apparently.

I'm certainly not as good as I was as a kid. My mind has many other more important things to be good at nowadays.

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Getting good at any game is about time input.

This thread seems to fluctuate between people claiming they are automatically good at games (which must just come from previous experience playing similar games) or people claiming amazing feats (through spending lots of time playing a game).

Sure some people naturally have better hand-eye coordination but its all a bit hard to come to any conclusions when most of us simply thrashed our friends because we spent 10 times as long playing the games as them.

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Getting good at any game is about time input.

This thread seems to fluctuate between people claiming they are automatically good at games (which must just come from previous experience playing similar games) or people claiming amazing feats (through spending lots of time playing a game).

Sure some people naturally have better hand-eye coordination but its all a bit hard to come to any conclusions when most of us simply thrashed our friends because we spent 10 times as long playing the games as them.

It's somewhere between the two. 2 of my friends had played 40 hours of PGR2 without getting a gold let alone platinum. They said platinums were almost impossible, within 10 hours I had got 20+. Going on to complete all of them took time input.

That is a combination of experience, natural ability and effort.

I could play RE for weeks non stop and I'd still be cack at it.

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I generally hate 'twitch' gaming, shooters etc., I was utterly crap at F-Zero GX, I'm also utterly crap at on-line fps's. I'm not that great at real time boss battles (Nightmare in Metroid Fusion beats me every time), I don't enjoy having to do the same thing over and over to try and beat something - actually that's a lie as I more or less love super monkey ball and love turn based battles like Final Fantasy bosses. I hated trying to complete level in Timesplitters 2 though because it was all learn through trial and error without ever giving me the feeling that I could suss things out on the hoof.

So in summary anything that gives me time to think and work things out I love whilst anything that requires me to be super responsive with a controller I dislike (because I'm crap).

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Putting the time in is quite rewarding in some aspects though; I understand its maybe not a true 'measure' of how good someone is at games generally - however its what counts for multiplayer games.

I love the fight one of my mates and I have on Virtua Fighter 4 Evo. Its great how I'm better than him for a while, then he susses my tactics, then I have to evolve my style to beat him. Pure logical thinking (albeit with fast reactions) bliss :angry:

Godammit why cant we have arcades like in Japan? Or have easily accessible online games like Virtua Fighter! I'd love to always have people better than me to play, y'know?

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If you can make a decent stab at this then you are good at Rhythm Gaming :

http://www.dnabstract.dsl.pipex.com/iidxclip.mpg

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Off topic, since you're into a lot of rhythm action stuff can I ask if you've Played Frequency/Amplitude and what you thought of them? I read a review by a Rhythm action fan the other day and he seemed pretty disparaging of them, saying it was a step backwards as it only has 3 'notes', whereas Beatmania et al have 5 or more. I don't think he really got what made the games good though, also he described BT's songs as throwaway techno when (in Frequency at least) it's my highlight of the game.

Those games and parrapa the rapper are about as far as I venture into rhythm gaming though, apart from the occasional play on dancing stage. But I doubt that playing some more in depth ones would suddenly make me think Frequency is rubbish.

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I've played Frequency and Amplitude and found them both to be the most easy rhythm action games I've ever played. The whole track switching and note hitting is just completely far from anything challenging in the slightest, and yes the fact that you only ever have 3 notes to deal with on each track at a time just makes things easy compared to having 5 or 7 or 9 or even 19 (keyboardmania) different things to concentrate. The only slightly difficult thing about Frequency and Amplitude is getting the track switching right, but the rhythm action aspect (as in hitting the buttons in time) is piss easy.

Also, the music in both of those games turns me off... Slipknot? Ill Nino? Fear Factory? Powerman 5000?

Shit metal belongs in CD players, not in rhythm action games.

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I've played Frequency and Amplitude and found them both to be the most easy rhythm action games I've ever played. The whole track switching and note hitting is just completely far from anything challenging in the slightest, and yes the fact that you only ever have 3 notes to deal with on each track at a time just makes things easy compared to having 5 or 7 or 9 or even 19 (keyboardmania) different things to concentrate. The only slightly difficult thing about Frequency and Amplitude is getting the track switching right, but the rhythm action aspect (as in hitting the buttons in time) is piss easy.

Also, the music in both of those games turns me off... Slipknot? Ill Nino? Fear Factory? Powerman 5000?

Shit metal belongs in CD players, not in rhythm action games.

Hmm, I'd probably be awful at more complex games then, the expert stuff on frequency is as far as I can stretch!

As for the music though, the poppy/dancey stuff in lot of other Rhythm action games puts me off to a certain extent wheras I thought the balance of different styles of music in Frequency was just right. Did go overboard on Amplitude though, Slipknot one is okay if you're in the right mood but there's never a time that I don't want punch Papa Roach in the balls...

Oh and I wasn't letting someone else influence what I like, I was just interested in whether it was an opinion shared by other RA fanboys.

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