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.::: Jungle Beat a mere 7? Sounds like someone thought the game's length had to weigh ten times as heavy as actually experiencing the best platformer since Super Mario 64...

God, a seven makes it seem like it's more of a filler than the genius game it is. Really, really, wrong.

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Yeah the psp is truly for the hardcore market with such stunners as....

Goldeneye Rogue Agent

NFL Street

NBA Street

Need For Speed Underground

Tiger Woods

FIFA Soccer

Tony Hawk Underground

Syphon Filter

Not to forget the kids fave Grand Theft Auto, man how long will it be before we see good ole Crash Bandicoot n Spyro on there.

The only thing hardcore about the console is that people paid £300+ for a 10 year old game tarted up and some wee trippy tetris game.

Lets face it now the PSP is about harcore as Lesiure Suit Larry Magna Cum Laude.

I Feel you may have some unresolved issues from your childhood...

So much anger about a plastic box full of electronics being inferior to another plastic box full of electronics...

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Er... yes. They're in a section after the KOTOR2 review that Derek has forgotten to list. Ridge Racers, Minna no Golf Portable, Vampire Chronicle and Lumines - all there. No Metal Gear Acid though... we've got it, but want to wait for the English release before really giving it a going over. I like it - I just can't understand it. :(

Scores? :(

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I Feel you may have some unresolved issues from your childhood...

So much anger about a plastic box full of electronics being inferior to another plastic box full of electronics...

Huh?! What plastic box full of electronics was i comparing another plastic box of electronics to exactly? I was only talking about the PSP and nothing else.

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Yeah the psp is truly for the hardcore market with such stunners as....

Goldeneye Rogue Agent

NFL Street

NBA Street

Need For Speed Underground

Tiger Woods

FIFA Soccer

Tony Hawk Underground

Syphon Filter

Not to forget the kids fave Grand Theft Auto, man how long will it be before we see good ole Crash Bandicoot n Spyro on there.

The only thing hardcore about the console is that people paid £300+ for a 10 year old game tarted up and some wee trippy tetris game.

Lets face it now the PSP is about harcore as Lesiure Suit Larry Magna Cum Laude.

In a post bursting with ignorant supposition...

The only thing hardcore about the console is that people paid £300+ for a 10 year old game tarted up and some wee trippy tetris game.

...this has to take the biscuit as the most piss-weak dig at the PSP I've seen on this board. :)

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Well, GTM gets it wrong (IMO) again. KOTOR2 does not deserve a 9. It's piss-boring and glitchy compared to the first, and the planets are mostly regurgitated leftovers from the first game.

Also, the characters are fucking TERRIBLE.

Agreed, a 7 at best.

Though the combat system was nicer, story/characters sucked.

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In a post bursting with ignorant supposition...

...this has to take the biscuit as the most piss-weak dig at the PSP I've seen on this board. :)

Ignorant supposition! Whats so ignorant in the fact that EA will bring all those games out? The rest have already been announced, remember its play station portable, meaning it will have portable versions of playstation 1 and 2 games thats just fact. Anything thats new will no doubt be ultra cool to see and play until then i wouldnt even part with £100 for this console.

As for piss-weak dig, i was mearly stating the obvious.

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Ignorant supposition! Whats so ignorant in the fact that EA will bring all those games out? The rest have already been announced, remember its play station portable, meaning it will have portable versions of playstation 1 and 2 games thats just fact. Anything thats new will no doubt be ultra cool to see and play until then i wouldnt even part with £100 for this console.

As for piss-weak dig, i was mearly stating the obvious.

Thanks for stating it.

AMAZING.

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Ignorant supposition! Whats so ignorant in the fact that EA will bring all those games out? The rest have already been announced, remember its play station portable, meaning it will have portable versions of playstation 1 and 2 games thats just fact. Anything thats new will no doubt be ultra cool to see and play until then i wouldnt even part with £100 for this console.

As for piss-weak dig, i was mearly stating the obvious.

you are now officially the worst forum member, ever ;)

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Wow its a sad state of affairs when you suddenly become the worst forum poster in a day just because your opinion doesnt fit in with everyone elses, i have my very own reasons for not wanting or even liking the psp, i can live without it i have a ps2 at home. Also i was expressing my personal hate towards the use of the word hardcore to describe a console that cleary isnt hardcore.

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Wow its a sad state of affairs when you suddenly become the worst forum poster in a day just because your opinion doesnt fit in with everyone elses, i have my very own reasons for not wanting or even liking the psp, i can live without it i have a ps2 at home. Also i was expressing my personal hate towards the use of the word hardcore to describe a console that cleary isnt hardcore.

steve, you're so dark i need a torch.

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woah now children!

this is a lovely world we live in, lets have a group hug and all play games together in harmony!

so to ask what Ulala did again: any good features?

I like gamesTM, mostly for the retro stuff and those cool double page screenshots, however they do make mistakes sometimes that make me wonder if they know what they are on about in regards to certain games. Like in last months one, theres a retro bit on contra 3/probotector, and whereas they recall most of the game correctly, they say that the robot players (which is correct) & ENEMIES(?) in Probotector detract from the experience. Yet the enemies are the same in both versions.

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Wow its a sad state of affairs when you suddenly become the worst forum poster in a day just because your opinion doesnt fit in with everyone elses, i have my very own reasons for not wanting or even liking the psp, i can live without it i have a ps2 at home. Also i was expressing my personal hate towards the use of the word hardcore to describe a console that cleary isnt hardcore.

I think you misunderstood Clipper's post.

His sentiment was that gamesTM cannot be considered a hardcore gamer's magazine if it chooses not to cover the initial batch of games available for what is one of the most exciting pieces of gaming hardware in ages. Gaming hardware that is currently only available on import, which actually does make it a 'hardcore' console.

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Wow its a sad state of affairs when you suddenly become the worst forum poster in a day just because your opinion doesnt fit in with everyone elses, i have my very own reasons for not wanting or even liking the psp, i can live without it i have a ps2 at home. Also i was expressing my personal hate towards the use of the word hardcore to describe a console that cleary isnt hardcore.

And the fact that I dont give a monkey's left nadger about terms like Hardcore, Middlecore or casual would have no effect on your argument i suppose...

My use of the word hardcore was my attempt to poke fun/be ironic as everyone on this forum seems to bandy the term around in an ironic (and sometimes not so) ironic fashion...

the fact that you take the term "hardcore" seriously is rather sweet really... I thought everyone on here was a hardened cynic... at least one person here can stand up and say "I hold my head up high when i use the terms hardcore, middlcore and casual :P"

To me... hardcore is simply a type of pornography... and a very enjoyable one too :o

I find it rather disconcerting to equate a handheld console or gaming in general to a gorgeous European bint doing DP on a Private DVD/Divx ;)

Maybe I should use some more smilies in future... and next time i want to ask where certain magazine articles are I shall simply ask in simple terms that could offend noone ;)

...

however my point still stands you seem very angry about a box of electronics and it's relation to the word "hardcore"

I'd have a lie down mate...

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I think you misunderstood Clipper's post.

His sentiment was that gamesTM cannot be considered a hardcore gamer's magazine if it chooses not to cover the initial batch of games available for what is one of the most exciting pieces of gaming hardware in ages. Gaming hardware that is currently only available on import, which actually does make it a 'hardcore' console.

Nope sorry mate... I don't have such lofty goals... mainly because i don't give a stuff what is "hardcore" "middlecore" or otherwise ;)... I just like gaming

Nope my post was simply ascertaining whether GamesTM was worth purchasing for PSP info without me popping to WHS or a quick shufty :P

And I did it in what i thought was an amusing RLLMUK forum ironic "hardcore" type way ...

Sorry to all if I confused you :o

But even if it acheived nothing else we did get some lovely quotes out of it

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Wow its a sad state of affairs when you suddenly become the worst forum poster in a day just because your opinion doesnt fit in with everyone elses, i have my very own reasons for not wanting or even liking the psp, i can live without it i have a ps2 at home. Also i was expressing my personal hate towards the use of the word hardcore to describe a console that cleary isnt hardcore.

Yeah, but really it wasn't even an opinion. You were just stating the obvious...Unless EA decide to stop making games full stop, you're going to see all the punters' 'faves' on the PSP. Just as you will see them on the DS aswell.

Does it really matter? If Crash Bandicoot PSP is - shock - a decent game then it's worth it.

Even if it's not, who gives a shit. No-ones going to force me to buy the thing.

By it's nature, we'll see just standard fare, just as we'll see devs do some really wonderful things on the machine.

Christ, I have no particular love for Ridge Racer, but it looks positively astounding on the PSP. And it gives me enormous hope for the future of the machine.

Shit, be a miserable fucker about it if you want, but both the DS and PSP are really exciting pieces of kit, and they're going to be worthy of any sales they accrue - despite going for relatively 'safe' launch titles (which isn't unexpected, surely?).

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Nope sorry mate... I don't have such lofty goals... mainly because i don't give a stuff what is "hardcore" "middlecore" or otherwise ;)... I just like gaming

Nope my post was simply ascertaining whether GamesTM was worth purchasing for PSP info without me popping to WHS or a quick shufty :P

And I did it in what i thought was an amusing RLLMUK forum ironic "hardcore" type way ...

Sorry to all if I confused you :o

But even if it acheived nothing else we did get some lovely quotes out of it

I like this guy ;)

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Nope sorry mate... I don't have such lofty goals... mainly because i don't give a stuff what is "hardcore" "middlecore" or otherwise ;)... I just like gaming

Nope my post was simply ascertaining whether GamesTM was worth purchasing for PSP info without me popping to WHS or a quick shufty :P

And I did it in what i thought was an amusing RLLMUK forum ironic "hardcore" type way ...

Sorry to all if I confused you :o

But even if it acheived nothing else we did get some lovely quotes out of it

Fair enough, I was just pointing out that, a joke or not, the sentiment was aimed at the magazine not the console as this fellow is suggesting.

Oh, and everytime you're forced to use a word like hardcore, simply chuck some single quote marks around it to distance yourself from the term, while also letting everyone know you're only using it in order to realate to someone else on their level. ;)

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100% agreed JoeK

I really do not uderstand console wars and "fanboys"

buy the console you like the look of that has the games you want...

Play it...

Visit forums to discuss how good/bad certain consoles/elements of console/games are based on your experience...

But simply logging in to say "NDS rules PSPS Sucks" or "PSP rules NDS suck" is fruitless and immature

Seriously I thought we ALL left this in the playground at 13/14 when we ran out of Spacdrum/C64 arguments....

Why do people feel the need to champion one console/handheld/PC above all others..

You do know that the manufacturers don't appreciate it?

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Fair enough, I was just pointing out that, a joke or not, the sentiment was aimed at the magazine not the console as this fellow is suggesting.

Oh, and everytime you're forced to use a word like hardcore, simply chuck some single quote marks around it to distance yourself from the term, while also letting everyone know you're only using it in order to realate to someone else on their level. ;)

Fair enough, I was just pointing out that, a joke or not, the sentiment was aimed at the magazine not the console as this fellow is suggesting.

Oh, and everytime you're forced to use a word like hardcore, simply chuck some single quote marks around it to distance yourself from the term, while also letting everyone know you're only using it in order to realate to someone else on their level. :P

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Does it really matter that much that i dislike it and what i said, cant believe its gone on like this.

Im not saying someone said this and that, i only took what was said and added a bit to it thats all. As for it being hardcore cause its import only thats just silly, how many of them are being sold on ebay.co.uk right now? its easier now to import than its ever been.

I totally agree with clipper about the hardcore tag its all bollox, we are all gamers not fanboys or hardcore,casual n whatever. I love console/pc gaming, i have been playin games since i was 4years old and been working with them since i was 16, ive seen shitloads come n go. Everyday i get someone asking me about the psp, thats an impressive piece of kit, looks well cool, how much, when, but no one has yet in 3 weeks has even bothered to question me about one single game for the console, i think that is just wrong.

For me personally at the moment not one psp game interests me to want to buy the console, not saying there never will be though im not stupid (may look that way!) but im not.

I do respect this forum for information and the people who post on here, who are generally clued up to the max and i dont go as low as to take personal digs at people just because they dislike something, i like to hear opinions rather than forcing them on people to see my point of view.

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you clearly grasped the wrong end of the stick with the 'hardcore' comment Steve, which is forgivable but to use it to then have a big rant about the PSP was kind of pointless wouldn't you concede ?

it's likely the the PSP will appeal to all types of gamers, 'hardcore' or otherwise. the launch titles may not be to your tastse but there is originality if you look for it, conversely you'll find EA titles on the more 'innovative' DS too. so nothing new there.

consoles are what EA do.

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As for it being hardcore cause its import only thats just silly, how many of them are being sold on ebay.co.uk right now? its easier now to import than its ever been.

Importing isn't mainstream.

People who import are generally what you may describe as hardcore. Making the PSP a 'hardcore' purchase.

Not that I really care to be honest...

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