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But there are shots like that floating around now, and they look great... then we see it running. I bet they dropped the framerate further to push graphics like that, huh?

The game is a victim of its own hype I'm afraid. I didn't think the demo was too bad. The drone-AI blows, seemingly unaware of the players existence. The AA-filters make everything look like how I'd imagine wearing a condom over my head and the lack of decent framerate makes it look jerky as hell at higher speeds. But apart from that, the demo is all right. Better than the NFSU-clones on the market, easily.

edit: I hoped it does improve though, I really do. The demo is solid enough to make a decent game and I'm all for that.

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Edge have to use this in a review sometime...please...

Yeah, that brought a smile to my face. I'd PAY to see that in a review!

As for Forza, I'll wait till I hear some comments on the finished game before I pass judgement. If it gets a 7 or above in Edge it'll be an essential purchase for me.

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im going for a EDGE 8, As for them pics they are taken from the latest build which has allmost a full year of development on the demo in OXM.

This alone is the sole reason why this game is allmost my number 1 in most wanted.

If it can be this good on the demo just imagine what its like to play now, and judging by them screens im gona say SILKY.

Take PGR2 online and double it, thats how good its gona be, Forza on Live is gona rock.

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Anyone interested in having a little fun with the Forza demo in this months OXBM? I was thinking of

best time in the lovely Ferrari 360. My best time so far is 1:38.420 which is rubbish but at least

it'll get the ball rolling. I reckon a sub 1:35 should be fairly easy.

Settings can be any way you like. Personally I like only ABS on, as it allows you to turn and brake simultaneously (despite what someone else has said).

Good Times,

Ill play tonight and see what i can pull out the bag.

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I think the demo is about 20 times better with a manual gearbox. At least then you dont go flying off a corner when u floor it....

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Wont know until the final version is out, but going buy most of M$ screens from there games you could be correct.

I do know that this game is running insane amounts of AA and AF compared to most Xbox games, but i still think im nudging towards your way of thinking more.

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WOW check out this awsome selection of cars that have just been unveiled, remember GT quality not quantity ;)

Forza Motorsport Final Car Roster:

• 1967 AC Shelby Cobra

• 1997 Acura NSX

• 2001 Acura Integra Type-R

• 2002 Acura RSX Type-S

• 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type S

• 2004 Acura NSX

• 2002 Acura #42 RealTime Racing NSX SC Driven by Peter Cunningham

• 2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish

• 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe

• 2001 Audi 2002 Infineon R8

• 2004 Audi S4

• 2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro

• 2000 Audi S4

• 2003 Audi RS 6

• 2002 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing S4 Competition Driven by Michael Galati

• 2003 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing RS 6 Driven by Michael Galati

• 2002 Audi Le Mans #38 Champion AudiR8

• 2001 Audi Le Mans #4 Johansson Motorsport R8

• 2004 Audi #8 24h Nürburgring TT-R

• 2004 Bentley Continental GT

• 2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8

• 1997 BMW #43 Team Schnitzer Motorsport GTR

• 1999 BMW #15 Team BMW Motorsports V12 LMR

• 2003 BMW #43 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR

• 2003 BMW #42 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR

• 1987 Buick Regal GNX

• 2002 Cadillac #8 Team Cadillac LMP 02

• 2004 Cadillac CTS-V

• 2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac Driven by Max Angelelli

• 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06

• 1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427 L-88

• 2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS

• 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

• 2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6

• 2002 Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 CID Twin Turbo Corvette

• 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition

• 2004 Chevrolet #73 3R Racing Corvette Z06 Driven by Phil McClure

• 2003 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5-R

• 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS

• 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT (Turbo)

• 2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve

• 1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR

• 2003 Dodge SRT4

• 1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo

• 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi

• 2003 Dodge Viper SRT10

• 2004 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe

• 2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT

• 2003 Dodge #23 Magellan Financial Viper Competition Coupe Driven by Paul Mumford

• 2004 Dodge #22 3R-Racing Viper Competition Coupe Driven by Tommy Archer

• 2002 Dodge Nürburgring 24 Hours Viper GTS ACR #1 - FujiFilm

• 1998 Eagle Talon TSI Turbo

• 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello

• 2004 Ferrari 360 Modena

• 1964 Ferrari 250 GTO

• 2003 Enzo Ferrari

• 1995 Ferrari F50

• 1993 Ferrari 512 TR

• 1984 Ferrari GTO

• 1992 Ferrari F40

• 1967 Ferrari 330 P4

• 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT

• 1998 Ferrari 355 GTS

• 2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti

• 1996 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione

• 1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge

• 2003 Ferrari #88 Veloqx Prodrive Racing 550 Maranello

• 2004 Ferrari Challenge Stradale

• 2003 Ford Focus SVT

• 1966 Ford GT40

• 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429

• 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R

• 2005 Ford Mustang GT

• 2005 Ford GT

• 2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang Driven by Carol Hollfelder

• 2004 Honda Civic Type-R Hatch (Japan)

• 2000 Honda Prelude Type SH

• 1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe

• 1995 Honda Civic Del Sol VTEC

• 2004 Honda Accord Coupe EX

• 2003 Honda S2000

• 1994 Honda Civic SI

• 1991 Honda CRX Si-R (Japan)

• 2004 Honda NSX-R (Japan)

• 2002 Honda Mugen Integra Type-R (Japan)

• 2003 Honda JGTC #18 Dome Racing Team NSX

• 2003 Honda JGTC #8 Autobacs Racing Team Aguri NSX

• 2004 Honda Mugen Civic Type-R Hatch

• 2000 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)

• 2003 Honda Mugen S2000

• 1992 Honda NSX-R (Japan)

• 2003 Honda JGTC #16 Dome Racing Team NSX

• 2002 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)

• 2000 Honda Aerogear Integra Type-R

• 2000 Honda VIS Racing Integra Type-R

• 2004 Honda Wings West Civic R J Spec

• 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT

• 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe

• 1993 Jaguar XJ220 Road Car

• 1961 Jaguar S1 E-type 3.8

• 2002 Koenigsegg CC8S

• 1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale

• 1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO

• 2002 Lexus SC430

• 2003 Lexus IS300

• 2002 Lotus Elise 111S

• 2002 Lotus Esprit V8

• 1972 Lotus Elan Sprint

• 2005 Lotus Exige

• 2005 Lotus Elise

• 1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo

• 2000 Mazda Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport

• 2004 Mazda RX-8

• 2003 Mazda Protégé MAZDASPEED

• 2004 Mazda 3 Sport

• 1995 Mazda RX-7 Turbo

• 2000 Mazda MX-5 MAZDASPEED

• 2004 Mazda RX-8 MAZDASPEED

• 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R

• 1995 Mazda AB FlugRX-7

• 1995 Mazda INGS RX-7

• 1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe

• 1998 Mercedes CLK-GTR

• 2004 Mercedes C32 AMG

• 2004 Mercedes SLR

• 2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe

• 2005 Mercedes CL65 AMG

• 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-DTM #3 Team Vodafone

• 2003 MINI Cooper-S

• 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR RS

• 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX

• 1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4

• 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS

• 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR

• 1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R

• 1995 Mitsubishi Mine's CP9A Lancer Evolution VI RS

• 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME

• 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330

• 2004 Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII

• 2002 Nissan Mine's GT-R (R34)

• 1972 Nissan 240 ZX

• 2003 Nissan 350Z Track

• 1998 Nissan #32 Nissan Motorsports R390 GT1

• 1994 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo Version R

• 2004 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE

• 2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R

• 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R34)

• 1995 Nissan Skyline GT-R

• 1998 Nissan 240 SX SE

• 2003 Nissan Skyline V35

• 1994 Nissan Fairlady Twin Turbo

• 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II

• 2003 Nissan JGTC #3 Hasemi Motorsport Z33 350Z

• 2003 Nissan Fairlady

• 2003 Nissan JGTC #12 Team Impul Skyline

• 1998 Nissan Silvia (S14)

• 2003 Nissan JGTC #23 NISMO Skyline

• 1995 Nissan Mine's Skyline R32 GT-R

• 2002 Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34

• 2003 Opel Performance Center #5 Team Phoenix Nürburgring 24 Astra V8

• 2004 Opel Speedster Turbo

• 2003 Opel Performance Center #6 Team Phoenix Nüurburgring 24 Astra V8

• 1999 Pagani Zonda C12

• 2003 Pagani #17 Carsport America GR

• 2002 Panoz #10 JML Team Panoz LMP01 EPP

• 2001 Panoz Esperante GTL

• 2004 Peugeot 206 Gti 180

• 2004 Pontiac GTO

• 1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop

• 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

• 1986 Porsche 959

• 2003 Porsche 911 GT3

• 2003 Porsche Carrera GT

• 1998 Porsche #26 911 GT1 Le Mans

• 1956 Porsche 550 A Spyder

• 1987 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3

• 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo

• 1987 Porsche #17 962 C

• 1995 Porsche 911 GT2

• 2003 Porsche Boxster S

• 2003 Porsche 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup Driven by Mike Fitzgerald

• 2000 Porsche #23 Alex Job Racing 911GT3-RS

• 2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS

• 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen

• 2004 Saleen S7

• 2000 Saleen Mustang S281

• 2000 Saleen #2 Konrad Motorsport S7R

• 2005 SEAT Cupra GT Racer

• 1999 Shelby Series 1

• 1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR

• 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi

• 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi

• 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS Coupe

• 2003 Subaru JGTC #77 Cusco Racing Impreza

• 1998 Subaru Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b 2002

• 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec-C (Japan) Forza Edition

• 1998 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo

• 2003 Toyota Celica GT-S

• 1985 Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex

• 1995 Toyota MR2 Turbo T-Bar

• 1999 Toyota #27 GT-ONE TS020

• 2004 Toyota Camry Solara

• 1969 Toyota 2000GT

• 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder

• 1992 Toyota Supra Turbo

• 2004 Toyota Altezza RS200

• 2003 Toyota Celica 1800 VVT-i

• 2002 Toyota MR-S

• 2002 Toyota Tom's Z382 Soarer

• 2002 Toyota Soarer 430SCV

• 1995 Toyota Tom's T020 MR2

• 2002 Toyota Tom's W123 MR-S

• 2003 Toyota JGTC #36 Team TOMS Supra

• 2003 Toyota JGTC #1 Toyota Team Le Mans Supra

• 1998 Toyota AB Flug Supra Turbo S900

• 2003 Toyota APR Performance Celica GTS

• 1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 03

• 1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 99

• 1995 Toyota Border MR2 Turbo T-bar

• 1995 Toyota VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-Bar

• 2003 Toyota JGTC # 35 Kraft Supra

• 2001 TVR Tuscan S

• 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12

• 2001 TVR Tuscan R

• 2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo

• 2003 Volkswagen Golf R32

• 1995 Volkswagen Corrado SLC

• 2004 Volkswagen New Beetle 1.8T Turbo S

• 2003 Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6

• 2004 Volvo S60 R

• 2004 Volvo #24 At-Speed Motorsports S60 R Driven by Derek Bell

Each car in Forza Motorsport is modeled to accurately simulate real-life performance and will include a feature car enthusiasts have craved since the inception of video game driving simulators…damage.

When gamers scrape the wall at more than 100 mph, the resulting damage will accurately affect the both the look and performance of their car – just like in real life. With adjustable settings that will allow gamers to tweak damage controls, turn anti-lock brakes on or off and choose between manual and automatic transmissions, Forza Motorsport provides a thrilling driving experience for the beginner driver who prefers some assistance as well as for driving experts, who will be rewarded for their skill with a higher career earnings scale.

From import tuners to muscle cars to LeMans prototypes, Forza Motorsport challenges racers to accumulate earnings to tune their rides with upgrades like engine swaps, bolt-on superchargers and suspension kits. Gamers can also “trick-out” their creations with Forza Motorsport’s innovative car customization editor that allows car artists to apply sleek, new paint schemes and upgradeable parts including body kits, rims, spoilers, decals, side skirts, fender flares, hood scoops and decals from more than 150 aftermarket partners.

Forza Motorsport is also fully equipped to allow gamers the ability to showcase their garage work with the best the online world has to offer via Xbox Live. Simultaneous competition with up to eight racers, buying, selling and trading cars, an innovative on and offline “career mode,” and more than 1,700 leaderboards give Forza Motorsport the most complete online driving experience ever offered.

WOW only thing it seems to be missing are Lambo's (Damm you EA) and some more classic 80's cars and maybe a few more Group B's, o well Enzo, CGT, F50, F40, XJ220, CC8S, Zonda and SLR at Nurburgring!!!! Here we come.

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OMG do you even know what that car is ? flippin hell that car has so much history.

I bet you drive the new mini, or some shitty korean car by the like of KIA or somthing rubbish along those lines.

Or even worse your a little kid who has never driven before and as such your opinion is void.

Step away from the pc, pull ya pants up, and go talk to someone who cares.

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Apart from that its a lotus omega and not a lotus carlton. NEXT.

How can you possibly tell from that screenshot?

Lotus Carlton - RIght hand drive - UK version

Lotus Omega - Left hand drive - European version. Other than that, they are the exact same car.

Vauxhall Carlton = Opel Omega - See? (until of course GM decided to call the Cartlon the Omega over here)

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When gamers scrape the wall at more than 100 mph, the resulting damage will accurately affect the both the look and performance of their car – just like in real life.

You die?!

With adjustable settings that will allow gamers to tweak damage controls, turn anti-lock brakes on or off and choose between manual and automatic transmissions, Forza Motorsport provides a thrilling driving experience for the beginner driver who prefers some assistance as well as for driving experts, who will be rewarded for their skill with a higher career earnings scale.

I wish I could configure my car like that!

:(

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Yeah Peve I'm liking it now. But then it didn't take me long to like it, just a while to get used to the controls. I still brake when I want to change gear sometimes though!

All-in-all I think this is going to be good. I think the game is sufficient in it's handling, graphics and engine noises. I'm sure that GT4's handing will be superior, but Forza's Live aspects make it very desirable in my books. I loved Moto GP2, especially the way you could compare your lap times to your friends' and to everyone else. I could see that getting fairly competitive with my mates.

One thing I don't like is the counter-stear, which seems a little too sensitive. Plus you don't get the same level of feedback from the track that you do in GT. Otherwise I'm impressed. I really hope though, that any damage to your car remains after races so you have to pay to get it repaired. This might help in preventing people from ploughing into each other? Still not sure if you can damage your car through bad driving like you can in GPL.

Come on Peve, what times have you got?

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What's all this faffle about 100 player car communities. This game is sounding really awesome, i might have to check out the latest demo to see if it has been de-treaclised from the last time i saw it. Still any game with a 288GTO in it does tickle my balls in a pleasent way. Does anyone know if we can do custom paint jobs on the cars? It's sickening after all this time that Moto GP2 is the only game that lets you make you bike look the way you want it. Heck i'd even buy the piece of wank that is NFSU2 if i could paint my car and show it off online.

Now why aren't MS getting their arse in gear and releasing a decent steering wheel.

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Does anyone know if we can do custom paint jobs on the cars? It's sickening after all this time that Moto GP2 is the only game that lets you make you bike look the way you want it. Heck i'd even buy the piece of wank that is NFSU2 if i could paint my car and show it off online.

You'll be able to tweak the appearance of your car in several ways, including: adjusting the paint hue, adding vinyl, and moving, resizing, spinning, and tilting the decals (which include text) in any way you like. The customization process will have you adding these various elements in layers, and Forza's system features a staggering amount of layers for you to play with.

For example, you'll have about 100 layers to tinker with, for a grand total of 600 layers per car. Cool? Yes. A little insane? Probably. However, the team is clearly making its obsessive-compulsive tendencies work for it--so we can't complain. The robust customization feature will ensure that you will be able to have a one-of-a-kind set of wheels when taking on friends.

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MotoGP2 had 8 this has 100.

Still trying to get the hang of the demo but, this is gonna be moto gp in ferraris with knobs on (the side of your car). Fido Dido! :angry:

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Is it me or is the evo a bit of an understeer whore in forza.

It had a nasty habit of oversteering on the way in, then understeering on the way out.... realistic or not?

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OMG do you even know what that car is ? flippin hell that car has so much history.

I bet you drive the new mini, or some shitty korean car by the like of KIA or somthing rubbish along those lines.

Or even worse your a little kid who has never driven before and as such your opinion is void.

Step away from the pc, pull ya pants up, and go talk to someone who cares.

Me - 22 year old, driver for over 5 years now.

You - just had your first wank. Don't use "OMG" in my presence. Ever.

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