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12 hours ago, cowfields said:

 

 

What I'm after now is some decent Lagers though. Have really enjoyed some decent craft ones. Pillars Brewery is delicious so I'll probably order a case or two from them.

 

https://thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/beer/lukas/ is a nice one and I generally love all Thornbridge beers. But am interested if there any other Pillars-esque breweries that are nice, small, indie, but chose to specialise in lager. With the heat it's sometimes really nice to have a frosty lager.


I know you started the post saying you weren’t impressed with BeerHawk ones, but I got the world lager pack from them, and while it had some I’d had elsewhere, it had a number I’d never tried, including Lukas actually.

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I’m not a big lager drinker, but I got a mixed case from Thornbridge towards the start of lockdown which had 4 cans of Lukas in, and they were absolutely cracking BBQ beers. A really smooth and refreshing lager. 

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On 29/06/2020 at 10:25, cowfields said:

Also places like beer52, or beer hawk seem to just keep sending Brewdog, Magic Rock or Camden Brewery beers. At that point you might as well just get a selection from Sainsburys / Tescos / Whoever. It's not terrible beer, but it's quite uninteresting and they all taste the same as each other.

 

We've been ordering direct from a few breweries since lock down began and I've been really impressed with the speed of delivery. We've tried Crate, Pressure Drop and Tiny Rebel. I mean these aren't exactly unknowns, it's just what we picked.

 

We ordered from Pressure Drop as they're round the corner from us, they are great for those 8% hazy hop monster beers, big tall cans though so we can have a can between two. 

This sour: https://pressuredropbrewing.co.uk/products/future-sunshine-peach-pineapple-passionfruit-sour was one of the nicest sours I've had in a long time. Juicy, full of flavour, but not too sour, not too cloying. Just really nice.

 

We ordered Tiny Rebel, not because they're particularly small or indie, in fact I'm seeing them on Ocado quite a bit, but they always did beer at Green Man festival, since that's cancelled, it was nice to have a few different ones.

 

What I'm after now is some decent Lagers though. Have really enjoyed some decent craft ones. Pillars Brewery is delicious so I'll probably order a case or two from them.

 

https://thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/beer/lukas/ is a nice one and I generally love all Thornbridge beers. But am interested if there any other Pillars-esque breweries that are nice, small, indie, but chose to specialise in lager. With the heat it's sometimes really nice to have a frosty lager.

 

Thanks for the pressure drop recommendation, that will be where I order my next case from.

 

This Howling Hops lager is the best lager I've had in a long, long time:

 

https://www.howlinghops.co.uk/product/packets-4-x-440ml/

 

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On ‎29‎/‎06‎/‎2020 at 10:25, cowfields said:

Also places like beer52, or beer hawk seem to just keep sending Brewdog, Magic Rock or Camden Brewery beers. At that point you might as well just get a selection from Sainsburys / Tescos / Whoever. It's not terrible beer, but it's quite uninteresting and they all taste the same as each other.

 

We've been ordering direct from a few breweries since lock down began and I've been really impressed with the speed of delivery. We've tried Crate, Pressure Drop and Tiny Rebel. I mean these aren't exactly unknowns, it's just what we picked.

 

We ordered from Pressure Drop as they're round the corner from us, they are great for those 8% hazy hop monster beers, big tall cans though so we can have a can between two. 

This sour: https://pressuredropbrewing.co.uk/products/future-sunshine-peach-pineapple-passionfruit-sour was one of the nicest sours I've had in a long time. Juicy, full of flavour, but not too sour, not too cloying. Just really nice.

 

We ordered Tiny Rebel, not because they're particularly small or indie, in fact I'm seeing them on Ocado quite a bit, but they always did beer at Green Man festival, since that's cancelled, it was nice to have a few different ones.

 

What I'm after now is some decent Lagers though. Have really enjoyed some decent craft ones. Pillars Brewery is delicious so I'll probably order a case or two from them.

 

https://thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/beer/lukas/ is a nice one and I generally love all Thornbridge beers. But am interested if there any other Pillars-esque breweries that are nice, small, indie, but chose to specialise in lager. With the heat it's sometimes really nice to have a frosty lager.

 

I'd give the Yakima Pilsner from Vocation Brewery a try, I really enjoy that one. They Also do a Hebden lager (although I haven't tried that one).

 

Just seen they are out of stock currently but should restock at some point. Although they do come in a mixed case. 

 

https://www.vocationbrewery.com/collections/core

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If you like lager then check out Utopian Brewing. They're a relatively new brewery from Devon who are exclusively brewing lagers.

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On 29/06/2020 at 10:25, cowfields said:

Also places like beer52, or beer hawk seem to just keep sending Brewdog, Magic Rock or Camden Brewery beers. At that point you might as well just get a selection from Sainsburys / Tescos / Whoever. It's not terrible beer, but it's quite uninteresting and they all taste the same as each other.

 

We've been ordering direct from a few breweries since lock down began and I've been really impressed with the speed of delivery. We've tried Crate, Pressure Drop and Tiny Rebel. I mean these aren't exactly unknowns, it's just what we picked.

 

We ordered from Pressure Drop as they're round the corner from us, they are great for those 8% hazy hop monster beers, big tall cans though so we can have a can between two. 

This sour: https://pressuredropbrewing.co.uk/products/future-sunshine-peach-pineapple-passionfruit-sour was one of the nicest sours I've had in a long time. Juicy, full of flavour, but not too sour, not too cloying. Just really nice.

 

We ordered Tiny Rebel, not because they're particularly small or indie, in fact I'm seeing them on Ocado quite a bit, but they always did beer at Green Man festival, since that's cancelled, it was nice to have a few different ones.

 

What I'm after now is some decent Lagers though. Have really enjoyed some decent craft ones. Pillars Brewery is delicious so I'll probably order a case or two from them.

 

https://thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/beer/lukas/ is a nice one and I generally love all Thornbridge beers. But am interested if there any other Pillars-esque breweries that are nice, small, indie, but chose to specialise in lager. With the heat it's sometimes really nice to have a frosty lager.

 

Thanks for that recommendation, I ordered two of basically every beer they offer last week and tried them over the weekend, and that sour was indeed one of the best sours I've ever had.

 

Not sure where to order from this week, @Gaz is Wander Beyond worth it for someone who's not into heavy Stouts, and isn't a huge fan of anything over 8%? 

 

Some of their beers sound fantastic but then come in at 9 or 10%.

 

Is there a decent brewery specializing in really good, bitter sours of mid (sub-8%) strength?

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2 hours ago, Isaac said:

 

Thanks for that recommendation, I ordered two of basically every beer they offer last week and tried them over the weekend, and that sour was indeed one of the best sours I've ever had.

 

Not sure where to order from this week, @Gaz is Wander Beyond worth it for someone who's not into heavy Stouts, and isn't a huge fan of anything over 8%? 

 

Some of their beers sound fantastic but then come in at 9 or 10%.

 

Is there a decent brewery specializing in really good, bitter sours of mid (sub-8%) strength?


not much good for this week, but you should give https://www.vaultcity.co.uk a go - their website reopens for sales next weekend (they closed it for a few weeks due to massive demand) - they make some of the best sours in the uk

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2 hours ago, Isaac said:

 

Thanks for that recommendation, I ordered two of basically every beer they offer last week and tried them over the weekend, and that sour was indeed one of the best sours I've ever had.

 

Not sure where to order from this week, @Gaz is Wander Beyond worth it for someone who's not into heavy Stouts, and isn't a huge fan of anything over 8%? 

 

Some of their beers sound fantastic but then come in at 9 or 10%.

 

Is there a decent brewery specializing in really good, bitter sours of mid (sub-8%) strength?


They don't taste like 8% - they are big beers but I think that's about getting the most extraction from the fruit flavours. They don't have alcohol burn, and while they are a little heavy that's generally the style. I had the octo-pie yesterday which is 9% and it drank like squash. If sour is what you are after though, wait for them to have Anura in, it's a 7% blueberry sour which is one of the best fruited sours I've had.

It might be worth checking out Little Earth Project or Wild Beer Co if single UK brewery is the stipulation. The breweries that best fit that description are usually outside of the UK though, Brekeriet, Mikkeller, Cantillon maybe.

 

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Anyone have any recommendations for lower alcohol beers say roughly in the 2.8 to 3.5% range.  Ideally that come in a mixed case where most of them meet that criteria.

Not interested in alcohol free/ 0.5% stuff

 

I really like The Kernels Table Beer but their £8.50 delivery charge is putting me off

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11 hours ago, Gaz said:


They don't taste like 8% - they are big beers but I think that's about getting the most extraction from the fruit flavours. They don't have alcohol burn, and while they are a little heavy that's generally the style. I had the octo-pie yesterday which is 9% and it drank like squash. If sour is what you are after though, wait for them to have Anura in, it's a 7% blueberry sour which is one of the best fruited sours I've had.

It might be worth checking out Little Earth Project or Wild Beer Co if single UK brewery is the stipulation. The breweries that best fit that description are usually outside of the UK though, Brekeriet, Mikkeller, Cantillon maybe.

 

 

It's not the flavour that's the issue - in fact 10% beers can taste wonderful, as you've explained. It's more that I can easily get through three or four cans, and if it's a 10% beer that leaves me feeling like absolute shit the next day, whereas if it's a lighter beer I wake up without much of a hangover.

 

Self control is the main issue really!

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1 hour ago, StumpyJohn said:

Anyone have any recommendations for lower alcohol beers say roughly in the 2.8 to 3.5% range.  Ideally that come in a mixed case where most of them meet that criteria.

Not interested in alcohol free/ 0.5% stuff

 

I really like The Kernels Table Beer but their £8.50 delivery charge is putting me off

 

I really like Striding Edge from Northern Monk packs a lot of flavour despite the low abv. 

 

https://northernmonkshop.com/collections/beer/products/striding-edge-light-ipa

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@Gaz I ordered two cans of basically everything available from Wander Beyond. Will let you know how they treat me. I'm excited to try some of them, some of the stouts sound incredible.

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2 hours ago, Isaac said:

@Gaz I ordered two cans of basically everything available from Wander Beyond. Will let you know how they treat me. I'm excited to try some of them, some of the stouts sound incredible.


Cool, I hope you enjoy them. I'd be really keen to hear how their raspberry stout is. 

I know what you mean about self control, I've got one of their 12% ones in the fridge but I know that one 440ml can of that is going to send me well on my way so I've not found the right time for it.

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On 13/07/2020 at 23:17, Gaz said:


Cool, I hope you enjoy them. I'd be really keen to hear how their raspberry stout is. 

I know what you mean about self control, I've got one of their 12% ones in the fridge but I know that one 440ml can of that is going to send me well on my way so I've not found the right time for it.

 

Not got to the raspberry stout yet but I've had a can of Pursuit:

 

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and I think it's probably one of the finest imperial IPAs I've ever had, by far. 

 

Can't wait to try some of the others.

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I’ve just ordered another box from Thornbridge which seems like really good value - £40 inc free delivery for a mixed case of 18.


I think they’re all beers I’ve had before (Untappd tells me I’ve had 40+ unique beers from them) but in my opinion they’re all solid or better. 
 

https://shop.thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/collections/mixed-cases/products/the-ultimate-summer-pack

 

I promise I’m not on commission!

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On 13/07/2020 at 23:17, Gaz said:


Cool, I hope you enjoy them. I'd be really keen to hear how their raspberry stout is. 

 

 

Finally got round to having it last night after dinner. It's one of the strangest stouts I have had, in a good way. Tastes almost like a sour, extremely strong raspberry flavour, but also a bit chocolatey and smooth like a good stout. Tastes nothing like 10% too, went down like a 5-6% beer. Very little burn.

 

I definitely recommend picking up a can of it.

 

One thing I will say with wander beyond is that I included things like their pale ale and session pale in my order and wish I hadn't - their 'normal' beers (for want of a better term) aren't anything special really, if anything they are a bit bland. But their big, bold beers are incredible. 

 

The one exception to this is this one:

 

https://www.wanderbeyondbrewing.com/product-page/mini-city-of-gold

 

Which for a table beer has so much flavour - it actually tastes like a milkshake IPA, just without as much bite.

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Recommend me some good craft beers! I haven’t been buying fancy craft beers for a while now - just supermarket stuff (overpriced Beavertown from Sainsbury’s and Magic Rock from Morrisons being the most extravagant). I generally enjoy hoppy IPAs but I’m not very fussy as long as it’s good beer.

 

A few years ago I was buying a lot of Kernel, Brew by Numbers, and Weird Beard. But the amount of different beers available now just leave me bewildered.

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I love Northern Monk, the heavier end (% wise) of their IPA range (Faith and Heathen) and their speciality beers are tough to beat, they do loads of collaborations as well.

 

https://northernmonkshop.com/collections/beer

 

Their collaborations and specials are a bit pricey, but really enjoyable, the core range is reasonably priced so I tend to mostly chuck those in and add a couple of unique ones (I'm now subscribed to their fortnightly box, but there's a waiting list for that)

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1 hour ago, skadupuk said:

I love Northern Monk, the heavier end (% wise) of their IPA range (Faith and Heathen) and their speciality beers are tough to beat, they do loads of collaborations as well.

 

https://northernmonkshop.com/collections/beer

 

Their collaborations and specials are a bit pricey, but really enjoyable, the core range is reasonably priced so I tend to mostly chuck those in and add a couple of unique ones (I'm now subscribed to their fortnightly box, but there's a waiting list for that)

They actually sell a couple in Morrisons. I’ve tried “Vermont Sessions,” which was a Brewdog collaboration. I’ve gone off Brewdog a bit, but that beer was pretty nice.

 

I don’t mind heavy/strong IPAs but don’t think I’d go for the 10%+ IPAs I was getting from Weird Beard again. 7% is about my limit now unless it’s a fancy Trappist beer.

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20 minutes ago, Monkeyspill said:

They actually sell a couple in Morrisons. I’ve tried “Vermont Sessions,” which was a Brewdog collaboration. I’ve gone off Brewdog a bit, but that beer was pretty nice.

 

I don’t mind heavy/strong IPAs but don’t think I’d go for the 10%+ IPAs I was getting from Weird Beard again. 7% is about my limit now unless it’s a fancy Trappist beer.

 

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7.2%, and for my money the best core beer I've tried from  a craft brewery.

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Just done another 15 can Pressure Drop order, trying two of most of their latest plus four of their core Pale Fire beer.

 

Love the quality of their output at the moment.

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I freaking love Beavertown beer. For 35 years  I thought beer wasn't for me but then a friend gave me a Stone Go GTo IPA when we ran out of gin and oh my god hoppy beer is insanely lovely! Fast forward five years and after trying the various IPA's you get in supermarkets I have to say Beavertown if fucking rad, I love Neck Oil, I love the Blood Orange, and Lupuloid oh wow. Is there any better commercial beer makers out there? 

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Northern Monk and Magic Rock are both great and available in supermarkets. North Brewing in some supermarkets. All are good for IPAs.

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20 hours ago, Minion said:

I freaking love Beavertown beer. For 35 years  I thought beer wasn't for me but then a friend gave me a Stone Go GTo IPA when we ran out of gin and oh my god hoppy beer is insanely lovely! Fast forward five years and after trying the various IPA's you get in supermarkets I have to say Beavertown if fucking rad, I love Neck Oil, I love the Blood Orange, and Lupuloid oh wow. Is there any better commercial beer makers out there? 

 

If you fancy branching out a bit into the juicier end of hoppy IPAs, Tiny Rebel's Clwb Tropica is available in most big Waitrose shops and is a pretty fantastic introduction to the style.

 

Also this is popping up in more and more Tesco shops and will blow your face off (in a good way):

 

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https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/305963770

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20 hours ago, El Spatula said:

Northern Monk and Magic Rock are both great and available in supermarkets. North Brewing in some supermarkets. All are good for IPAs.

I’ve been drinking a lot of Magic Rock and also Northern Monk as they are available in Morrisons. But I get a bit worried when craft beers go to supermarkets - I’m sure Brew Dog used to be a lot nicer years ago and even Beavertown doesn’t seem quite as nice as it used to be.
 

I also remember when Leffe was a decent Belgian beer - they made a lot more than just the standard farty two beers you find everywhere now.


I had a few Kernel beers a few weeks ago for the first time in actual years and they still seem really really good. The same with Brew by Numbers. But I was bewildered by the amount of  newer beers they had in the shop (most with brightly coloured labels or cans).

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Still think Vocation Life and Death is one of the best pale ales you can get in the supermarket. Juicy, hoppy and a little hazy. 

 

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19 hours ago, Monkeyspill said:

I’ve been drinking a lot of Magic Rock and also Northern Monk as they are available in Morrisons. But I get a bit worried when craft beers go to supermarkets - I’m sure Brew Dog used to be a lot nicer years ago and even Beavertown doesn’t seem quite as nice as it used to be.
 

I also remember when Leffe was a decent Belgian beer - they made a lot more than just the standard farty two beers you find everywhere now.


I had a few Kernel beers a few weeks ago for the first time in actual years and they still seem really really good. The same with Brew by Numbers. But I was bewildered by the amount of  newer beers they had in the shop (most with brightly coloured labels or cans).

 

I'd agree with this - Beavertown have expanded massively in terms of output and staff numbers since their acquisition, and whilst they are still one of the better mass-market brewers you can definitely taste the difference between mass-produced craft beer and craft beer that is still produced in small enough numbers that it can be just one brewer or a very small team that controls quality along the whole production line.

 

Brew By Numbers is still a relatively small operation, I thought - their taproom isn't far from me and is nowhere near the gigantic warehouse that Beavertown's now is.

 

Brewdog has also gone massively downhill I agree - although their smaller brews can still be great (the Barnard Castle Eye Test was the nicest Brewdog beer I've had in ages). And clearly it's still a huge step above proper mass market lagers.

 

It's just a shame that there does seem to be a tipping point where the operation gets scaled to the extent that quality drops and everything gets a bit more thin and bland.

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I took a punt on a couple of beers from Left Handed Giant on my latest trip to my local craft beer shop, and they have all been fantastic.

 

This was a standout:

 

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Age Of Madness

 

It pours like orange juice, and genuinely tastes like you're drinking a Solero. So, so tasty.

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On 25/07/2020 at 20:06, skadupuk said:

I love Northern Monk, the heavier end (% wise) of their IPA range (Faith and Heathen) and their speciality beers are tough to beat, they do loads of collaborations as well.

 

https://northernmonkshop.com/collections/beer

 

Their collaborations and specials are a bit pricey, but really enjoyable, the core range is reasonably priced so I tend to mostly chuck those in and add a couple of unique ones (I'm now subscribed to their fortnightly box, but there's a waiting list for that)

 

Picked up a few Faith and New World in Tesco the other week. Really loved them both, especially Faith. Will definitely be ordering more of their stuff!

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