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Oh man I recently started watching this again from the first season again. Love this show and was actually wondering how old John Mahoney would be by now. :(

 

RIP Mr.Crane. o7

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Martin: Frasier watch it, you're going to miss the turn off!!

Frasier: So?

Martin: We'll get lost!

Frasier: Lost from where? We're in a house on wheels! Wherever we go, we're home!

Martin: No! It's coming up! [tugging at Frasier's arm] It's coming up! Alright, turn here! [frantically] This is it! Turn! Turn here...! We missed it!!

 

Daphne and Niles look on in amusement.

 

Frasier: Dad, we didn't miss anything!

Martin: [horrified] Oh my God!

Frasier: We are now on the road less traveled. From now on there is a new order! We dance to the rhythm of the road.

Martin: [panicking] Alright, now don't panic! There's got to be an access road leading back onto that turn off...[he proceeds to hunt around the map, frantically] Where is it?  Where is it! [finds it] Oh, it's always in the crack!

Frasier: So is life, Dad.

 

One of my favourite scenes.

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Risky. Reboot being considered. Not quite a revival with the old cast like other shows have been doing recently, but Frasier (still Grammer) moving to a different city again.

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I really hope they don't bring it back - It's an absolutely classic show (with the exception of Daphne's family).

 

Reboots/revivals/whatever tend not to work. In fact, has there ever been a great one? (apart from Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads which is excellent)

 

Edit - Thinking about this a bit more - Who would have thought that a spin-off from Cheers featuring Frasier as the main character would have turned out to be better than the show that spawned it?

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Whatever Happened worked because of the characters growing and changing. Frasier was good at that.

 

It is NOT A REMAKE. A remake would be a whole new cast playing the same characters, this is a revival/continuation.

 

But I feel they shouldn't, particularly as John McGinley (Martin Crane) is no longer with us.

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Just now, merman said:

Whatever Happened worked because of the characters growing and changing. Frasier was good at that.

 

It is NOT A REMAKE. A remake would be a whole new cast playing the same characters, this is a revival/continuation.

 

But I feel they shouldn't, particularly as John McGinley (Martin Crane) is no longer with us.

I don't think anyone said it was a remake. It's clear that this would be a continuation.

You're absolutely right that without Marty Crane it just wouldn't be the same. That said, Frasier from Cheers, without the cast of Cheers worked.

 

I bet if it happens the first episode will be at Martin's funeral, just so the old cast can get together for one last time and from then on it'll be Frasier on his own in a new city, with occasional visits from Lillith and Frederick (who rebelled against his family and is now a heavily tattooed guitarist in a rock band or something like that).

 

I still hope they don't make it. It could end up like those last few episodes of Only Fools & Horses that ruined an otherwise almost perfect run of comedy & character development.

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I'm very sceptical this could be any good but there is a chance they find something worth doing - its hard to imagine it working without Marty & Niles, or even Roz.

 

If its an ego boost for Kelsey Grammar and they have still have OAP Frasier pulling hot young women it will all be a bit creepy.

 

A down on his heels Frasier trying to rebuild his life again late in life could go down a quite emotional tugging at the heartstrings route, but don't suspect that's where they'd head with it.

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11 hours ago, merman said:

Whatever Happened worked because of the characters growing and changing. Frasier was good at that.

 

It is NOT A REMAKE. A remake would be a whole new cast playing the same characters, this is a revival/continuation.

 

But I feel they shouldn't, particularly as John McGinley (Martin Crane) is no longer with us.

 

That’d be John Mahoney.

 

John McGinley, the prolific former Bolton Wanderers striker is still very much alive.

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32 minutes ago, ckny said:

That’d be John Mahoney.

 

John McGinley, the prolific former Bolton Wanderers striker is still very much alive.

 

Waaaaait a moment...

 

If that's John McGinley, then who played Dr Cox? :hmm:

 

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4 hours ago, Nick R said:

 

Waaaaait a moment...

 

If that's John McGinley, then who played Dr Cox? :hmm:

 

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 I thought it was the same person that played Dewey Cox. 

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It's good to see this happen. It could be a disaster or it could be great. Either way, Frasier was consistently brilliant and there is no reason a new chapter in the characters life can't be interested and entertaining.

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If it is shit it won't affect those old episodes they are still there and still great.

 

So give it a go and if it is rubbish we can just ignore it. Just like Joey, I mean who remembers that and lets it scar their memories of Friends?

 

Open All Hours is brilliant and its legacy isn't tainted even though the reanimated corpse of Still Open All Hours infests our TV schedule.

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1 hour ago, Nick R said:

Vanity Fair has published an oral history of the series:

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/09/frasier-25th-anniversary-oral-history

 

 

 

 

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Grammer: I was nervous about a British-accented housekeeper turning us into a dreadful Nanny and the Professor. So, I asked to read with her.

 

Casey: Kelsey escorts Jane into David Angell’s office. The three of us go to follow and Kelsey says, “No, just me and her.” The door closes, and we’re left standing there sweating. About a minute later, the door swings open. Kelsey blows right by us and without turning around says, “She’s in.”

 

That reads a bit funny in this day and age. 

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I can’t think of this show now without the reference to something in a Seth Myers monologue as “whiter than an Episode of Frasier projected onto the side of a polar bear”

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Peter Casey (series co-creator): We created this high-brow, eccentric multi-millionaire publisher, a Malcolm Forbes–type, who gets into a motorcycle accident that paralyzes him from the waist down and forces him to run his empire from his Manhattan penthouse bedroom with the help of a Rosie Perez–type live-in nurse.



 

Kelsey Grammer (Frasier Crane): John Pike, Paramount TV’s president, read the script and invited me to dinner. After our first cocktail, he looked at me and said, “Kelsey, I think a sitcom should be funny.”

 

I love this.

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looks like a step nearer it coming back, but no network signed to it yet

 

https://www.vulture.com/2019/11/kelsey-grammer-says-frasier-reboot-will-happen-in-2020.html

 

feel a bit conflicted about it as still regularly catch the odd episode on C4 in the mornings, and they are mostly excellent (if a bit dated) - the idea of an older Frasier in a new location having moved on is appealing (I was surprised for example how effective the scenes in latter Rocky movies were when he was in his restaurant and aware of his place in the world of the films) but I suspect Kelsey Grammars ego won't allow for that, and it'll be a letch fest of old man Frasier being irresistible to young girls and still a big success.

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The sitcoms that he was in post-Frasier have left me with little hope that that a revival would be any good. Disagree that Frasier is dated though (overall not specific attitudes in certain scenes of course)

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