Controversial film opinions

[Hanzo the Razor]

1 minute ago, Loik V credern said:

 

I don't have a problem though. 

 

I beg to differ.

[Yobo Ahoy]

Ghosts of Mars, despite being absolutely, deafeningly stupid is actually a very fun slice of slasher horror in spaaaace. 

 

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best Studio Ghibli film.

 

The King's Man is genuinely very good and is a better war film than the stodgy 1917.

 

[sandman]

The Village is M Nights best film 

[Commander Jameson]

20 minutes ago, sandman said:

The Village is M Nights best film 

 

I enjoyed The Happening.

 

But then, I would.

 

[Nicky]

Here's one for you. Both Fargo and No Country for Old Men are both fucking dreadful movies with shit endings. I say shit endings, what i mean is "don't end"

[Festoon]

Tom Hooper is a dreadful director. His only decent film is The Damned United.

 

Joe Wright is a gimmick-obsessed director. His only good film is Pride & Prejudice.

[Camel]

1 hour ago, Nicky said:

Here's one for you. Both Fargo and No Country for Old Men are both fucking dreadful movies with shit endings. I say shit endings, what i mean is "don't end"

Agree with No Country. Such an annoying ending.

[Gabe]

12 hours ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

The King's Man is genuinely very good and is a better war film than the stodgy 1917.

 

I watched this on a flight recently and it was so bad I got a £10,000 fine for trying to open the cabin door to parachute out of the plane just to get away from it.

[Spicyhotpepper]

Tom Hardy's Venom is a more interesting character than 90% of the MCU.

[HarMGM]

Dennis Villeneuve is one of the most overrated directors to ever make films if Dune is anything to go by.

 

I'd go so far as to say George Lucas would have made a better adaptation of the same source material.

 

Oh wait a minute, he did. It was called Star Wars Episode 1: the Phantom Menace. A superior film to Dune 2021.

[Ry]

Some of you are fucking mental. 

 

And that's a lot coming from me. 

[Steve McQueef]

2 hours ago, Spicyhotpepper said:

Tom Hardy's Venom is a more interesting character than 90% of the MCU.

He'd one of the best lines in Spider-Man: No Way Home 

[Wiper]

22 hours ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

Ghosts of Mars, despite being absolutely, deafeningly stupid is actually a very fun slice of slasher horror in spaaaace. 

 

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best Studio Ghibli film.

 

The King's Man is genuinely very good and is a better war film than the stodgy 1917.

 

 

Agreed on point 1; I don't share your perspective on point 2 (Nausicaä for me) but I don't think that's particularly controversial (Kiki's is definitely widely regarded as one of the best at least; it's not like you just took leave of your senses and voted for Tales from Earthsea as king of the Ghiblis); point 3 is clearly the product of a deranged mind, please don't speak to me again.*

 

*I can't in fairness compare it with 1917, having not watched 1917, but can compare it with the statement "is genuinely very good" and find things wanting

[Stig]

4 hours ago, Spicyhotpepper said:

Tom Hardy's Venom is a more interesting character than 90% of the MCU.

 

Hes not the issue with them films tbh, everything else is why they suck.

[Festoon]

One shot films that aren't shot in one shot are pointless.

[Yobo Ahoy]

3 hours ago, Wiper said:

I don't share your perspective on point 2 (Nausicaä for me) but I don't think that's particularly controversial (Kiki's is definitely widely regarded as one of the best at least; it's not like you just took leave of your senses and voted for Tales from Earthsea as king of the Ghiblis);

 

I dunno, sometimes it feels like people only ever talk about Spirited Away and Totoro, both of which I bounced off hard.

 

Good choice on Nausicaa. That's my number 2. I guess what's probably more controversial is my third favourite...

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Yobo Ahoy]

Regarding Kingsman I'm not a total nutter, I have the good sense to recognise the 2nd film as a steaming pile of shite at least.

[Spicyhotpepper]

2 hours ago, Stigweard said:

 

Hes not the issue with them films tbh, everything else is why they suck.

I thought they were pretty fun films, didn't take themselves too seriously and were both, what, done in less than 90 minutes? Marvel could learn something from them.

[Bluejam]

I watched Withnail and I for the first time in ages last week.

 

It was boring. 

[Couch Corpse]

33 minutes ago, Bluejam said:

It was boring. 

What fucker said that?

[Padaxes]

40 minutes ago, Bluejam said:

I watched Withnail and I for the first time in ages last week.

 

It was boring. 

🤬 

[JamesC]

Withnail and I is alright but nowhere near as funny as people make out (see also This is Spinal Tap). It was made in the decade which gave us The Young Ones and Black Adder. Watch 142 minutes of either of those and you'll laugh more than you will watching Withnail.

[Exidor]

I went to a screening of Withnail in Birmingham a few years ago and it was a hateful experience. Bunch of twats treating it like Rocky Horror and shouting all the catchphrases. For me, the beauty of it is the oppressive melancholy and the way it captures the spent potential of the 60s as they rolled round into the 70s, rather than "finest wines lol get in the back of the van".

 

More controversially, Get Out...

 

Spoiler

Why on earth would racist white people want to be "reincarnated" as black people?

 

[earlymodernsteve]

19 minutes ago, Exidor said:

I went to a screening of Withnail in Birmingham a few years ago and it was a hateful experience. Bunch of twats treating it like Rocky Horror and shouting all the catchphrases. For me, the beauty of it is the oppressive melancholy and the way it captures the spent potential of the 60s as they rolled round into the 70s, rather than "finest wines lol get in the back of the van".

 

More controversially, Get Out...

 

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Why on earth would racist white people want to be "reincarnated" as black people?

 

Spoiler

Because the point is the fetishisation and exploitation of black bodies by racist whites. They see them as less than human but perversely obsess over their physical nature.

 

[Exidor]

1 hour ago, earlymodernsteve said:

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Because the point is the fetishisation and exploitation of black bodies by racist whites. They see them as less than human but perversely obsess over their physical nature.

 

 

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I get that it's extending that idea to an exaggerated end point for dramatic effect, I just don't think it quite works. The point of that fetishisation is that you don't see black people as implicitly people on the same level as yourself. You might want to be able to run as fast as Jesse Owens but you wouldn't want to be him because you consider yourself above him in every other respect. Plus deep down you have to know that he got treated like shit by people like yourself any time he wasn't winning medals for them.

 

[Nick R]

4 hours ago, JamesC said:

Withnail and I is alright but nowhere near as funny as people make out (see also This is Spinal Tap).

 

My controversial This is Spinal Tap opinions:

 

* Spinal Tap has its three justifiably famous jokes (Goes to 11, Stonehenge, and getting lost backstage), but beyond that, there are several other musical comedies that are are at least as funny: A Mighty Wind (from most of the same team), The Rutles: All You Need is Cash, Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, and Josie and the Pussycats. (And the three films in italics have much funnier songs than Spinal Tap.)

 

* Yes, I know it's cool to claim that The Comic Strip Presents: Bad News Tour is funnier than This Is Spinal Tap, but it really isn't.

[b00dles]

I prefer bad news as I saw it first as a kid and knew all the gang because of young ones and other comic strip stuff (my brothers had recorded them from the telly, so no idea about actual order of release etc) but watching it again relatively recently, it isn't really that funny.

 

Fistful of travellers cheques still murders me though. 

 

Edit: oh wait, that isn't really controversial... erm... aha!

RRR is a better superhero movie than any Marvel/ DC superhero movie.

[Festoon]

25 minutes ago, b00dles said:

RRR is a better superhero movie than any Marvel/ DC superhero movie.

 

I would agree with this (and have, elsewhere on rllmuk), in the sense that the visual description of action perpertrated by the characters looks more like comic book frames. Beautiful. I don't understand why MCU/DC films have to look so dull and flat.

[b00dles]

25 minutes ago, Festoon said:

 

I would agree with this (and have, elsewhere on rllmuk), in the sense that the visual description of action perpertrated by the characters looks more like comic book frames. Beautiful. I don't understand why MCU/DC films have to look so dull and flat.

Also the sincerity and earnestness of it all really did it for me. 

 

Even when I was thinking "they can't do that, that would be ridiculous" they do it, it's amazing and the film is intentionally doing the most over the top and stupidly fun thing and just has 'deal with it' shades descending from above onto every frame. 

 

Even the very first bit on the bridge had me cheering at the screen.  If you ever thought either Arnie's hand signals in predator, or Belloc's to the... tribal people (?) at the start of Raiders, were comically vague then Ram's way of conveying the completely nuts rescue plan should bring a smile to anyone's face. And the thing is that's great, it doesn't matter because it's all such glorious fun and everyone is playing it totally straight. 

[Festoon]

1 hour ago, b00dles said:

Also the sincerity and earnestness of it all really did it for me. 

 

Even when I was thinking "they can't do that, that would be ridiculous" they do it, it's amazing and the film is intentionally doing the most over the top and stupidly fun thing and just has 'deal with it' shades descending from above onto every frame. 

 

Even the very first bit on the bridge had me cheering at the screen.  If you ever thought either Arnie's hand signals in predator, or Belloc's to the... tribal people (?) at the start of Raiders, were comically vague then Ram's way of conveying the completely nuts rescue plan should bring a smile to anyone's face. And the thing is that's great, it doesn't matter because it's all such glorious fun and everyone is playing it totally straight. 

 

Great point about the viewer being given enough cues to go 'they're not going to...' and then doing it. That's such great direction and makes you see the action twice. In western fx blockbusters the action is so overlapped and clockwork there's no time to even properly comprehend what you've just seen, not to mention extrapolate ahead. It's action direction like the animators in western vfx houses don't seem to comprehend - provably because there's a disjoint between the supposed director of, say, a Marvel property, and the people actually directing the action sequences, while the name director is really only doing principal photography and sorta-supervising the action.

 

The same principle when the guys catch each other's arms under the bridge - not only is it iconic, but it immediately gets cast in bronze for the decoration for the centre R in the title, which at tbat point we've all forgotten we haven't seen.

 

Amazing. So much fun.