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ITV Silence of the Lambs Censorship


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I'm sure the show rolls out in it's uncensored version over here. I rarely watch it on Channel 4,but I don't rember bleeping there, and the MTV showing's certainly aren't bleeped out.

The Ch4 version is bleeped at the 9:30pm showing, but not at the late night repeat.

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Actually, you've just made me think about something, legendary. Are the subtitles for films on TV edited, as well? I've never watched them, but when a film is dubbed, do they use the dubbed dialogue on the subtitles or the original dialogue?

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Actually, you've just made me think about something, legendary. Are the subtitles for films on TV edited, as well? I've never watched them, but when a film is dubbed, do they use the dubbed dialogue on the subtitles or the original dialogue?

On P.888 I've occassionally seen full unexpurgated filth that they bleep out of the audio track, especially on documentaries.

My favourite thing on teletext subtitles is where they're doing some weird transcribing of live speech with some garbled phonetic keying in system. Hilarious misunderstandings ensue!

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My favourite thing on teletext subtitles is where they're doing some weird transcribing of live speech with some garbled phonetic keying in system. Hilarious misunderstandings ensue!

Yeah, that's brilliant - it took the Eurovision Song Contest to a whole new level for me this year, especially the bits where there transcribed some of the "la de da de da" bits in the songs. :)

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On P.888 I've occassionally seen full unexpurgated filth that they bleep out of the audio track, especially on documentaries.

My favourite thing on teletext subtitles is where they're doing some weird transcribing of live speech with some garbled phonetic keying in system. Hilarious misunderstandings ensue!

I swear I have seen a football match that had "they are on the bitch"

(not the famous one btw)

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I'm shocked too see anything altered after ten to be honest. Although the best dubbing ever was in Scarface:

'Cop talking to Montana'

Original: "How'd you get that scar tough guy, eating pussy?"

Dubbed: "How'd you get that scar tough guy, eating pineapples?" :)

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It may be a little unfair on ITV / British Censors to complain about the idiotic censorship of movies on TV.

My understanding is (and I may be wrong) that whilst filming most hollywood films these days they flag anything problematic for TV and film an alternate TV version of each scene at the time, which is used to compile a TV cut of the movie.

The only problem with this is that they base their decisions on what's wrong for TV on the stricter US network rules, or perhaps a lowest common denominator of all major territories TV network rules.

The result is a cut of a movie far more censored than necessary for UK TV but once that 'TV version' of a movie exists, I imagine TV stations will take that copy, secure in the knowledge that they aren't going to get any hassle from censors, rather than going to the expense and hassle of taking the cinema cut and manually editing only what's not allowed on British TV.

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It may be a little unfair on ITV / British Censors to complain about the idiotic censorship of movies on TV.

My understanding is (and I may be wrong) that whilst filming most hollywood films these days they flag anything problematic for TV and film an alternate TV version of each scene at the time, which is used to compile a TV cut of the movie.

The only problem with this is that they base their decisions on what's wrong for TV on the stricter US network rules, or perhaps a lowest common denominator of all major territories TV network rules.

The result is a cut of a movie far more censored than necessary for UK TV but once that 'TV version' of a movie exists, I imagine TV stations will take that copy, secure in the knowledge that they aren't going to get any hassle from censors, rather than going to the expense and hassle of taking the cinema cut and manually editing only what's not allowed on British TV.

Can't blame the yanks. The BBC had the world terrestrial premiere of ET to show on Xmas Day and wanted to cut the word "penis", Speilberg was reportedly furious and almost pulled permission to allow them to show the movie at all.

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Actually, you've just made me think about something, legendary. Are the subtitles for films on TV edited, as well? I've never watched them, but when a film is dubbed, do they use the dubbed dialogue on the subtitles or the original dialogue?

Subtitles are rarely word for word accurate anyway. For most things you get a close approximation of what's being said rather than word for word. It's always something like the speech:

"I'm going to march right up to the front door and kick the goddamn thing right down"

will be typed up as

"I'm going to march up to the front door and kick the damn thing down".

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Subtitles are not good for live program anyway. I don't know how accurate is DVD subtitling but I don't notice any flaw. I tried downloading alias and subtitles and find it timing off. I mean If I adjust it right then after advertising break it need adjusting again, then it doesn't work well. So I gave up.

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When Total Recall was shown the other night on BBC 1 or 2, I didn't spot any language cuts (I've never seen the original though), but the ending was ruined by replacing the fade to white to a fade to black.

I also recall a story of how one of the Die Hards was shown on ITV, starting at 8:00pm with cut swearwords ("Yippy kie-ay muddy funsters!") but turning them all back on once the clocks hit 9.

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I've ironically just watched Lambs on RTÉ, and it's finished before 11, nevermind barely started a la ITV.

Nothing was cut from what I saw, but I was really just looking out for the jizz tossing bit.

you wank over Silence of the Lambs? :o:P

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Haven't we all learnt by now that ITV is evil. All channels deal with some censorship (did anyone else see the wonderful site "The Snipsons" that detailed how Sky and then the BBC censored The Simpsons?) but ITV take it to a whole new level. They've been at it for years.

I honestly don't understand why anyone even bothers to watch a non-U film on ITV.

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Haven't we all learnt by now that ITV is evil. All channels deal with some censorship (did anyone else see the wonderful site "The Snipsons" that detailed how Sky and then the BBC censored The Simpsons?) but ITV take it to a whole new level. They've been at it for years.

I watched The Simpsons episode on Sky One on Sunday, the one where Homer is Henry VIII and he says that Lisa will be disowned unless she grows a penis (or something) and then she clenches and pushes to try and grow a penis. That image and the use of the word 'penis' itself almost shocked me because I wouldn't expect it on a Sunday just before Songs of Praise.

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I watched The Simpsons episode on Sky One on Sunday, the one where Homer is Henry VIII and he says that Lisa will be disowned unless she grows a penis (or something) and then she clenches and pushes to try and grow a penis. That image and the use of the word 'penis' itself almost shocked me because I wouldn't expect it on a Sunday just before Songs of Praise.

It is a pity that the site disappeared (as far as I can tell). It was quite exhaustive, going into details and with screenshots from the original where relevant. It was surprising just ho wmuch was edited. Curiously, Sky and the BBC used to edit different things out. One thing might be shown on one channel but edited out on the other and vice versa.

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Far worse than the Simpsons censorship mentioned above is the way Channel 4 (when airing it in the T4 slot) completely butchered 'Futurama', to quite comical effect at times.

Admitedly Sky cut out the word 'bastard' a bunch of times from it (something I didn't fully realise until getting the DVD boxsets), but C4 seemed to cut any reference to sex, drugs, violence, swearing etc worse than an M-TV rap video. I really wish I would have taped the T4 versions, just for them being a curiosity piece.

E-X

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you wank over Silence of the Lambs? :o:P

NO!

I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND!

There is a bit in the film, were a prisoner throws semen over Clarice as she walks out of the cell block. It was cut on ITV, but was clearly seen in our version- and about an hour and a half earlier.

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Far worse than the Simpsons censorship mentioned above is the way Channel 4 (when airing it in the T4 slot) completely butchered 'Futurama', to quite comical effect at times.

I recall the episode which starts out with the crew going on "The Internet", and due to the base of almost all the jokes being related to porn, about half the episode was cut.

Because it's for kidz, like.

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