Anime

[JohnC]

I've been holding back on watching Spice and Wolf until close to the second season. Looks like the time has come.

SZS is a given.

Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 may warrant a look. Plus I've liked what I've seen from Bones so far.

Why does Canaan sound familiar? I feel I've heard the name before.

[Mr.Jeff]

Confusing it with Kanon maybe?

Looking forward to what you mentioned myself as well as Umineko and Bakemonogatari. The latter got a few bits of the novels translated on an /a/ thread on night and it sounds really quite bizarre and interesting. Hopefully it'll be good.

[Dandy_Sephy]

Summer days are here again and bringing with it some fairly good sounding series.

Jesus christ, the current season has only just started! Anime adaptions of K-dramas? color me surprised.

[Meh]

Looks like a load of pedo shit if you ask me.

[Kyouma]

Only the bottom row, Meh.

[Dandy_Sephy]

There I was thinking I'd just catched up on Galaxy Express, and they are releasing another 30eps today

[FargalEX]

I watched all of Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi today with some friends, good grief. The sci-fi and hollywood episodes are AMAZING. I enjoyed! We also watched the Gurren Lagann first movie, personally I feel it works a lot better as a series but

Viral getting his own Dai-gurren and all the other stuff at the end was amazing, they just kicked everything through the door at once. I was expecting them to get to the Spiral King before it finished though~

[imp]

I watched all of Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi today with some friends, good grief. The sci-fi and hollywood episodes are AMAZING. I enjoyed! We also watched the Gurren Lagann first movie, personally I feel it works a lot better as a series but

Viral getting his own Dai-gurren and all the other stuff at the end was amazing, they just kicked everything through the door at once. I was expecting them to get to the Spiral King before it finished though~

Yeah, definitely a weird place to end it. Oh well, you know the next one will have an excellent opening!

[TheShend]

We're are people getting One Piece from? I can't seem to load tokyotosho anymore

[Zappster]

Use tokyotosho.info

The main guy that runs it only has that domain and the guy who owns tokyotosho.com has disappeared or something like that.

[Kyouma]

I've heard the plot outline for the second movie. It's going to be amazing. And very different.

Also, I already came.

[imp]

We're are people getting One Piece from? I can't seem to load tokyotosho anymore

since the subs for brand new one piece are always pretty awful, I don't really bother with downloading them any more and just stick to streaming sites. I can put up with poor quality for 20 minutes a week! Although, saying that, it's the only show I've been watching for the last four months or so. :S

[Lorfarius]

For One Piece I tend to stick to nakama fansubs as they do a pretty good job of subs. I was a big fan of Vega Punk until recently when their output just bottomed out with barely anything available over a 6 month period.

[Tofu]

New 4c animation with my favourite music artist all time DJ Krush - fucking yes!!!

[Tofu]

For One Piece I tend to stick to nakama fansubs as they do a pretty good job of subs. I was a big fan of Vega Punk until recently when their output just bottomed out with barely anything available over a 6 month period.

Ah yeah mang, its was Kaizoku early on then ADC who then became Vegapunk now its Nakama.

[Dandy_Sephy]

gah damm you crunchyroll, I though I had chance to catch up on GE999, then you release the other 63 episodes that previously weren't available to anyone - even paid members You could at least have waited until I hit ep 60 from your bulk release earlier in the week I'm definately not rushing through the 70 odd eps I'm behind

So much for a quick catchup this weekend! In other news they now have Gundam 00. Before anyone makes comments about video quality, theres a worse fail then that - its DUBBED

[Dandy_Sephy]

On a unrelated note, I'm struggling to think of a clear early 90s "benchmark" show. Something that could be named and would sum up that era

I think 70s, and think of stuff like Lupin III, Gundam and the Leiji matsumoto shows (Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Space battleship Yamato)

I think 80s, and think of things like SDF Macross, Maison Ikkoku, Urusei Yatsura

The mid/late 90s gave us Evangelion and countless "clones"

The 2000s are too early to call, but I'd say the Bleach/Naruto/One Piece's and Haruhi's so far.

I just can't think of any early 90s shows that would sum up that time. Theres Ranma, but that straddles the end of the 80s and the beginnings of the 90s. The era had a fairly noticeable style of character design, which is immediately noticeable. But the shows themselves don't seem obvious

Thoughts?

[Ryan]

Ghost in the Shell.

Start of good animation, and start of use of computer animation.

[Dandy_Sephy]

Mid 90s, and I was thinking more along the lines of tv shows. And I really am not a fan of it anyway As for "start of good animation", well thats just hugely subjective

[Nomad]

Mid 90s were owned by Rurouni Kenshin.

There is no question the 70s were more like the works of GoD Nagai: Grendizer, Mazinger Z, Devilman.

[Dandy_Sephy]

You'll have to prove to me that Nagain had more impact then Matsumoto, and I don't think there are many arguements for Kenshin having more impact on the mid 90s then Evangelion - the show that almost single handidly changed the anime landscape of the time. Whereas Kenshin (as good as it was) was dragged off the air after people got tired of waiting for the Enishi arc and stopped watching

[Asura]

On a unrelated note, I'm struggling to think of a clear early 90s "benchmark" show. Something that could be named and would sum up that era

I think 70s, and think of stuff like Lupin III, Gundam and the Leiji matsumoto shows (Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Space battleship Yamato)

I think 80s, and think of things like SDF Macross, Maison Ikkoku, Urusei Yatsura

The mid/late 90s gave us Evangelion and countless "clones"

The 2000s are too early to call, but I'd say the Bleach/Naruto/One Piece's and Haruhi's so far.

I just can't think of any early 90s shows that would sum up that time. Theres Ranma, but that straddles the end of the 80s and the beginnings of the 90s. The era had a fairly noticeable style of character design, which is immediately noticeable. But the shows themselves don't seem obvious

Thoughts?

Almost certainly Kenshin for the 90s.

[Dandy_Sephy]

Again, I'm looking for early 90s specifically (90-94), whereas Kenshin is certainly mid/late 90s, but I'm still not seeing how Kenshin "sums up" that era. I'm going to need some idea of why people believe it's such an obvious example of the medium at the time. Good show? Yeah I'd go with that. Defining a era? I'm not convinced

[Nomad]

But you didnt prove anything on your part, so why ask me to do something you havent done yourself?

I'll answer anyway.

In terms of impact created by Go Nagai as an author, that man single handedly revived the the super robot genre and created different themes that we know today as cliches. (from wikipedia) The series is noteworthy for introducing many of the accepted stock features of Super Robot anime genres: the first occurrence of mecha robots being piloted by a user from within a cockpit,[10] the mechanical marvel that is the world's only hope, forgotten civilizations, power-hungry mad scientists, incompetent henchmen, lovable supporting characters (usually younger siblings, love interests, or friends of the hero), the scientist father or grandfather who loses his life heroically, and strangely clothed, eccentric or physically deformed villains (the intersex Baron Ashura as one example). Mazinger Z was also the first show to feature a female robot (Aphrodite A(and later Diana A), piloted by female lead Sayaka Yumi), and a comic-relief robot made of spare parts and garbage named Boss Borot (which ended up suffering severe damage in nearly all of his appearances), after its pilot, brash yet simpleminded gang leader, Boss.

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This man introduced anime to many of todays fans through his shows. I remember as a kid, when Grendizer is showing you would not see anyone below 30 in the streets, and I am not kidding. Even my parents would watch it and, to me anyways, it just had a great impact on my understanding of anime. I remember Space ship Yamato was showing on TV and wasnt as popular as the Tetsujin 28, Combattler V, or other shows at the time. Maybe because I was too young and naturally drawn to the destructive appeal of huge robots, but thats how it was.

[Meh]

Ghost in the Shell.

Start of good animation, and start of use of computer animation.

[FargalEX]

Ghost in the Shell.

Start of good animation, and start of use of computer animation.

Good choice, bad reasons. I think Ghost in the Shell is a good representation of 1990s anime but I don't know what you're implying by calling it the start of "good" animation.

PS Computers had been used in animation since the 1980s, the CAPS system was used in The Little Mermaid in '89 and The Rescuers Down Under, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, etc were all made before GITS.

[Meh]

You're forgetting the 'pioneering' use of computer animation in Golgo 13 in '84

Fuck yea helicopters.

[Hackign]

Computer animation was also used in Akira if I remember my "making of" correctly.

[Dandy_Sephy]

But you didnt prove anything on your part, so why ask me to do something you havent done yourself?

I'll answer anyway.

In terms of impact created by Go Nagai as an author, that man single handedly revived the the super robot genre and created different themes that we know today as cliches. (from wikipedia) The series is noteworthy for introducing many of the accepted stock features of Super Robot anime genres: the first occurrence of mecha robots being piloted by a user from within a cockpit,[10] the mechanical marvel that is the world's only hope, forgotten civilizations, power-hungry mad scientists, incompetent henchmen, lovable supporting characters (usually younger siblings, love interests, or friends of the hero), the scientist father or grandfather who loses his life heroically, and strangely clothed, eccentric or physically deformed villains (the intersex Baron Ashura as one example). Mazinger Z was also the first show to feature a female robot (Aphrodite A(and later Diana A), piloted by female lead Sayaka Yumi), and a comic-relief robot made of spare parts and garbage named Boss Borot (which ended up suffering severe damage in nearly all of his appearances), after its pilot, brash yet simpleminded gang leader, Boss.

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This man introduced anime to many of todays fans through his shows. I remember as a kid, when Grendizer is showing you would not see anyone below 30 in the streets, and I am not kidding. Even my parents would watch it and, to me anyways, it just had a great impact on my understanding of anime. I remember Space ship Yamato was showing on TV and wasnt as popular as the Tetsujin 28, Combattler V, or other shows at the time. Maybe because I was too young and naturally drawn to the destructive appeal of huge robots, but thats how it was.

Good explanation, although I think many people would associate him with "horror" titles just as much as his giant robos. However, I think Matsumoto's works have greater "mass appeal" for many in todays climate. I say that purely because "giant robo" shows these days will have a specific audience, whereas Harlcok, and Ge999 are more "mainstream appeal". Either way, I think we can both agree that they had massive influence over their respective genre's

[Asura]

Hmmm, interesting what you say about Kenshin.

It's difficult for me to rate 90s anime, because in the 90s my experience of it was dictated by VHS releases in the UK, so stuff like Patlabor and Macross Plus. Kenshin is one of the only long series I'm familiar with that was released during the 90s - so if you're after series, then I'm not so sure.

It's a conundrum - I see your problem; part of me would want to pick Macross Plus or Patlabor 2, for example, but neither of those are representative of when they were made; they were incongruous.

What about Dominion Tank Police?