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Asura

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Well, after finishing the series and watching the movie The Shadow Chronicles, I've finally seen all there is to see of Robotech.

Allow me to say, then, that the movie was a disgrace, for one reason and one reason alone - WHY DOES IT NOT END?!?

Honestly, it has an ending even less satisfying than Halo 2 or The Empire Strikes Back - however, in the case of the Robotech movie there is one important difference; the movie was made after fifteen years of pussyfooting about, with attempt after attempt to produce a Robotech sequel bounced back. So after all that time, they FINALLY get to make a movie, and it has a FUCKING CLIFFHANGER?!?

Robotech was of questionable origin and dubious quality anyway, and making anything in that universe probably takes a legal battle to rival the OJ Simpson case. I watched largely out of curiosity, though I really liked it when I was a kid, and to be honest, leaving it up in the air again is a real insult to any fans there might be remaining of the series. The whole point of the movie was that due to the complex editing fiasco that gave Robotech life in the first place, the end of the 80s series was pretty inconclusive; so after eventually managing to release the film, they let the fans down again with another ending that isn't actually an end??

I had hoped, after 10 years of wondering what had happened at the finish of it all (I saw about half of it as a kid), that the movie would finally tie up the loose ends and cap it off. Well, it didn't. If there was definitely a sequel coming up, I'd actually be quite pleased as the movie was pretty good up until the end, but apparently it's on production hiatus.

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Anyway, I've watched it all now so if anyone wants to see it (it is actually quite interesting to watch, to see how they cut the three series together, and see what, at times surprising, elements were censored and weren't - such as the censors preferring nudity over violence), I'd exchange the lot for any other decent anime series boxset. I'd consider anything Macross or Gundam, or another Mecha show, or even something totally out the left field. There's 80-odd episodes and the movie in the set.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, I'll edit a bit. It's your own damn fault, though :wub:

Now go watch the proper Macross and all of its lovely sequels, and bask in the glory of how it was originally intended.

Oh, and there's apparently another Robotech movie due this or next year, or something.

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Asura

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, I'll edit a bit. It's your own damn fault, though :wub:

Now go watch the proper Macross and all of its lovely sequels, and bask in the glory of how it was originally intended.

I've seen a lot of the various Macross series; bits of Zero, Seven, the start of Frontier and of course all of Plus. ADV have actually recently released the original, unedited Macross on DVD in the states, which was an interesting move.

Much as people knock it, I did really like Robotech as a kid, and I think it was an important step to bring anime to the west. Given, it was a bit of butchery, but it probably got a lot of people into it who otherwise wouldn't have been. It's just a shame that it shares that quiet honour with the stain of being the origin of anime censorship - talk about a mixed bag.

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Oh, and there's apparently another Robotech movie due this or next year, or something.

Indefinitely postponed, pending developments with the live-action film. Gough and Millar currently the writing team. I'm sure it will go well :wub:

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Is the CGI in the movie as utterly dire as it was in the trailer, by the way? The explosions were positively N64-quality.

It's pretty bad alright. It's a bit 90's videogame cutscene-ish.

But it's also got Mark Hamill (briefly) and Chase Masterson, who took time out of her busy post DS9 schedule. Sure sign of quality.

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Indefinitely postponed, pending developments with the live-action film. Gough and Millar currently the writing team. I'm sure it will go well :wub:

It'd be fascinating if they included the SDF-1 in it, though.

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Hi guys

Watching the new FMA, K-on - moe:), Range Murata new one what else should I be watching?.

Also finally got round to seeing Paprika, again Satoshi is a genius and have to say wasn't a headfuck as I imagined it to be.

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ADV have actually recently released the original, unedited Macross on DVD in the states, which was an interesting move.

Not really, AnimEigo beat them to it by several years - on 3 occassions (series box, 3x3disc boxes, 9 seperate dvds - all released at different times). The interesting part with ADV is that they got the japanese seiyuu for Minmay to voice her in english, but the actual licensing and release (doing a dub aside) wasn't especially newsworthy.

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It'd be fascinating if they included the SDF-1 in it, though.

Actually, the SDF-III features in the movie, though it's a little contrived - you only see it very close up or from angles that don't show off that it's the Macross.

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Well anyway, as I said, anyone who has another half-decent boxset for trade, let me know - even if it's a short OVA or something. Doesn't matter if it's out of HMV or off eBay, as long as the video is of good quality and it plays on a region 2 DVD player.

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Piro - No complaints about the voice actor themself, but the role had already been done well by someone else. It juts sounds weird now. Having watched the first season only recently, the original voices are still fresh, so changes sound odd.

I watched it 3 years ago, so I guess i'm lucky I don't have that problem :lol:

Actually, the SDF-III features in the movie, though it's a little contrived - you only see it very close up or from angles that don't show off that it's the Macross.

SDF-III? When was that built?

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Hi guys

Watching the new FMA, K-on - moe:), Range Murata new one what else should I be watching?.

Also finally got round to seeing Paprika, again Satoshi is a genius and have to say wasn't a headfuck as I imagined it to be.

Eden of th East, Sengoku Basara are the only other 2 fairly high tier shows that I'd recommend instantly. All the other are dependant on taste.

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SDF-III? When was that built?

It wasn't in Macross. In Robotech, they destroyed SDF I (in the same attack that happens at the end of Macross, except in Robotech it didn't survive), quickly skipped over SDF II and it's off-screen destruction and went straight to SDF III actually existing too, again off-screen. All that in about 30 seconds, IIRC. The whole bit made no fucking sense.

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It wasn't - at least, not in Macross :P

Though, wait - aren't the Megaroads classed as SDFs?

I'm not sure. I think I remember the colony ship Misa, Minmay and Hikaru took off in at the end might have been SDF II?

It wasn't in Macross. In Robotech, they destroyed SDF I (in the same attack that happens at the end of Macross, except in Robotech it didn't survive), quickly skipped over SDF II and it's off-screen destruction and went straight to SDF III actually existing too, again off-screen. All that in about 30 seconds, IIRC. The whole bit made no fucking sense.

Ahh, I see. So what's the movie going to be about then? I heard in Robotech there were some plant people or something.

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