What's the Best Gaming Journalism

[marcus]

Fair enough, I thought that would be the case. I dont come here too often so wouldnt really know (just to browse OT and read Bens Hip-hop threads mainly), and Ive only ever had to once take issue with something that was said here in the past that was downright offensive to me, indeed, rllmuk himself posts on our board too and is as welcome on our site as anyone else here. Ive seen baiting on our side too, but such is the nature of public forums that these things happen from time to time, usually the mods would remove the comments before any hard was done.

I dunno though, its just idiots like that who get on my wick at times, yet usually they are the same people who are more than happy to use our Trade forums when it suits them

[Cacophanus]

jesus christ, i don't even know you but that is the poorest, most meaningless response to criticism i have ever heard. ambiguous for obvious reasons? like the fact that clearly setting out your intentions, your motivations and how you intend to achieve them will make you sound like the most pathetic geek on here? here! you sound like a politican, albeit one without any power, influence or even noble cause. in fact any cause what so ever that reaches beyond trying to make a games magazine look slightly silly.

My apologies, I assumed you weren't an idiot. This was obviously a grievous mistake on my part. To spell it out, I was initially ambiguous to hide their involvment (at their very obvious request). Now they are more than happy to come out, albeit partially, and I am more than happy to oblige them.

As for the lofty industry types, I work in the games industry (not to mention having nifty Japanese press/industry contacts). Meeting these people is easy.

edge is better than you.

As for you Mr. Isaacs, good attempt at the smearing crap thang. No really, calling me a rabid nutter (despite the fact that I am clearly reasoned almost all the time, compared to the never ending biased bile spouted by gaming retards). No really, you're awesome.

That being said, I have noticed a sharp decline of the non-gaming contigent pretending to have l33t skills and knowledge. It's refreshing and more than a bit encouraging to see that the Britsih gaming scene won't degenerate into a maelstrom of pretentious shite.

[PopeSmokesDope]

As for the lofty industry types, I work in the games industry (not to mention having nifty Japanese press/industry contacts). Meeting these people is easy.

Hey Caco, if play testing doesnt work out, you could always write adverts for Dating agencies!

[Mayfair Rick]

Hey now everybody, calm down. You might not like his style, but two wrongs don't make a right and all that, and taking the piss out of Cocopops is at least twice as silly as trying to debate with him, don't you think? Even if it is marginally more entertaining.

Anyway, moving slightly closer to the original topic... games journalism? What's that then?

[Rex Grossman]

As for you Mr. Isaacs, good attempt at the smearing crap thang. No really, calling me a rabid nutter (despite the fact that I am clearly reasoned almost all the time, compared to the never ending biased bile spouted by gaming retards). No really, you're awesome.

I didn't call you 'a rabid nutter'. I simply said

I used to think that Cacophanus was simply the yin to the Edge fanboys' yang. Both as bad as one another. Now, however, the fanboys are less rabid, while Cacky holds firm.

Cacophanus, you must learn that now the other extreme element is coming closer to appreciation and away from sycophancy it is time for you too to calm down.

And I stick by it 100%

[nohsa]

It is impossible to match EDGE although at the moment they are struggling.

[Guest Two Heavens]

They don't like anyone who isn't Edge here, places like Eurogamer and GamesTM are constantly slagged off as well, usually by the type of people who follow the Edge boys around like lost sheep.

That's rubbish. We hate everything here.

[Alex W.]

I like Eurogamer and GamesTM and NTSC-UK. It's just that they've all got as many flaws as Edge and I'm always pointing out everyone's flaws.

For example, Cacky here has an amazing debating/reviewing/discussing strategy which relies upon stating something, describing it in detail, then refusing point-blank to provide any exemplar evidence. Which is, you know, fundimental in critical or discursive writing.

[MK-1601]

Not at all, i'd imagine. It's just people, both here, there and everywhere. people who taking gaming far too seriously for their own good. They're fun and clearly the people who post on forums like games more than your average person, but personally, I see there being a line crossed, at which point it turns into fanaticism, be if for nintendo, Sony, japanese games, mech games, or whatever, and I just don't believe that it's healthy. but that's just people, not places.

I don't think it's possible to take games too seriously.

(There is a difference between seriousness and lack of perspective though, yeah.)

[Cacophanus]

For example, Cacky here has an amazing debating/reviewing/discussing strategy which relies upon stating something, describing it in detail, then refusing point-blank to provide any exemplar evidence. Which is, you know, fundimental in critical or discursive writing.

Nice selective use of evidence there, and undertaken in a slightly ironic fashion too I should add. Moreover, I also moticed very little actual evidence to counter mine in that mecha thread a while back, that's because nobody had any. Learned.

Not at all, i'd imagine. It's just people, both here, there and everywhere.  people who taking gaming far too seriously for their own good. They're fun and clearly the people who post on forums like games more than your average person, but personally, I see there being a line crossed, at which point it turns into fanaticism, be if for nintendo, Sony, japanese games, mech games, or whatever, and I just don't believe that it's healthy.  but that's just people, not places.

Yet you take great joy in the subjugation of others through their ignorance on gaming. So surely your dislike of gamers who are considerably more knowledgeable and sincere is more than a little transparent in motive?

As for this Mr. Isaaacs:

Now, however, the fanboys are less rabid, while Cacky holds firm.

...pretty much infers I am "rabid". Nice one.

[Graham S]

Good grief. I know Cacky can seem a bit odd / nutty / an anti-Edge troll, but it's a bit much to wish him dead. I think you owe him an apology, Ed.

And where did the anti-NTSC bile stem from. It's a fine forum, with some great members, even if I don't share the brers taste in games and sick street language. And I do find the reviews a bit overblown, but they're not professional writers as far as I know, so give them a break.

All this nonsense makes us look bad. Save the smack talking for when we beat the NTSC people on Xbox Live.

[PeteJ]

All this nonsense makes us look bad. Save the smack talking for when we beat the NTSC people on Xbox Live.

Pffft. As if

PS, I don't have Xbox Live.

[squirtle]

Pffft. As if

PS, I don't have Xbox Live.

Good job, cause we would be laying the smacketh down on ye!

PS: I hate wrestling. And smack talk. And I like NTSC-UK.

PPS: Just ignore me.

[Cacophanus]

If you're implying that I feel 'threatened' by people who know more than me, you couldn't be more wrong.  I enjoy learning about new things, not just in the realm of gaming but outside of it too. I don't feel belittled by someone who knows more about things I have little knowledge of.

Online you present yourself clearly otherwise.

What I resent is when this knowledge transforms into arrogance, and they start actually believing their own hype, as if their opinion is more valid than anyone elses on seemingly ANY subject because they seemingly have a reputation to maintain, and will defend it at all costs. This, quite frankly, makes them out to be complete pricks.

Oh, like you then?

[Cacophanus]

Furthermore, nobody cared. Except you.

Wow, how big do you feel now?

Unfortunately, people did seem to care because the damn thread went on for five billion pages (they just had nothing worthwhile to say).

[squirtle]

What mecky thread?

[Cacophanus]

No, no-one cared about the corrections you made. They did care about your apparent grudge, however, (I even commented on the pathetic predictability of the whole thing, delivered with laughable clockwork efficiency) which is why the topic went on for so long, if memory serves.

...yet Alex's wondrous accusation that I don't justify my statements is clearly false because in that ridiculous thread I did provide ample evidence. Again, learned.

Cracky, you're such a total, utter, embarrassment to yourself. HAVE YOU GOT NO SHAME???

I don't get embarassed, but I doubt a pathologically insecure self-conscious egotwat, such as yourself, would truly understand that.

[Disgraced Toblerone]

To spell it out, I was initially ambiguous to hide their involvment (at their very obvious request). Now they are more than happy to come out, albeit partially, and I am more than happy to oblige them.

Who are they?

[Cacophanus]

We didn't learn a damned thing. We only had (and still only have) your word that you were even right with your lovely 'corrections'.

No, I gave references and links to various official sites that corroborated my accusations of EDGE's factual innacuracies. I call that evidence, here that is termed something else apparently.

Who are they?

I thought it would be obvious that I couldn't divulge their names. They just wanted me to say that they were "industry professionals" and keep a lid on it from there. Don't look at me, I am just a messenger.

[Disgraced Toblerone]

They are more than happy to come out, but you can't give their names.

Right.

[Graham S]

Because the are a shadowy cartel dedicated to exposing mechy related errors in Edge. Cacophonous is only their representative on Earth (and that other completely different chap who mysteriously shared C's IP address). They are the real reason the old Edge team left. Who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes?

[Graham S]

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME!!! How do you know if I'm a pathologically insecure self-conscious egotwat?

Lucky guess?

[Rex Grossman]

But I didn't call you a 'rabid nutter'. I also infered that others on here are rabidly pro-Edge and anti-Cacophanus. On the former note they are toning this down somewhat.

I still stand by this claim and this very thread backs up my comments.

Do you really think the Edge sycophancy is as bad as it was? I certainly don't.

[squirtle]

eh? Blank?

[Rex Grossman]

eh? Blank?

He was speechless.

[squirtle]

eh? Blank?

He was speechless.

My mecky usage was just based on JPickford's use of the word which amused me no end.

And so, what Mecky thread?

[Xevious]

He was speechless.

My mecky usage was just based on JPickford's use of the word which amused me no end.

And so, what Mecky thread?

There never was a Mecky thread. It started as a crap post about inaccuracies in Edge's coverage of the Mecky Scene, but the actual thread was about how much of a loser Cackey-pants is.

Tim ™

[Rex Grossman]

He was speechless.

My mecky usage was just based on JPickford's use of the word which amused me no end.

And so, what Mecky thread?

It was either the the thread about the issue of Edge with Transformers on the cover (deleted I think) or a genuine mecha thread that came a few days later.

[squirtle]

So more of a messy thread then...

I think I remember it now.

[Rex Grossman]

There never was a Mecky thread.  It started as a crap post about inaccuracies in Edge's coverage of the Mecky Scene, but the actual thread was about how much of a loser Cackey-pants is.

I'm pretty sure there was, and it was after the Edge post mortem thread had been deleted. I think people came into the mecha thread to flame Cacky so that got deleted too.